Aftermath of peaceful BLM protests:-
https://youtu.be/pcep1xrjHG4
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by Slaughter None » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:08 am
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:12 am
by Slaughter None » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:15 am
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
A store has been smashed. There's obviously nothing peaceful about that. Why are you lying?
by Liriena » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:16 am
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
A store has been smashed. There's obviously nothing peaceful about that. Why are you lying?
by Washington Resistance Army » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:16 am
Liriena wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
A store has been smashed. There's obviously nothing peaceful about that. Why are you lying?
Because his side can't afford to acknowledge the actual peaceful protesters and the substance of their demands. So instead they regurgitate the exact same lie over and over and over and over.
by Slaughter None » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:20 am
by Liriena » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:21 am
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:22 am
by Slaughter None » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:25 am
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Slaughter None wrote:That was obviously sarcastic, you think I support these anarchists?
No, I think you call rioters "peaceful protesters" because you're lying.
So let's add another lie to that. They're not just rioters, they're anarchists apparently. I'm not asking for a source, because that would be a waste of time. You're just lying again.
by Knask » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:27 am
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:28 am
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:32 am
Slaughter None wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
No, I think you call rioters "peaceful protesters" because you're lying.
So let's add another lie to that. They're not just rioters, they're anarchists apparently. I'm not asking for a source, because that would be a waste of time. You're just lying again.
"Peaceful Protesters" was a joke obviously they are violent rioters and if they want to destroy literally everything in sight what else can you call them?
by Slaughter None » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:32 am
by Liriena » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:34 am
Slaughter None wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
No, I think you call rioters "peaceful protesters" because you're lying.
So let's add another lie to that. They're not just rioters, they're anarchists apparently. I'm not asking for a source, because that would be a waste of time. You're just lying again.
"Peaceful Protesters" was a joke obviously they are violent rioters and if they want to destroy literally everything in sight what else can you call them?
by Slaughter None » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:35 am
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Slaughter None wrote:"Peaceful Protesters" was a joke obviously they are violent rioters and if they want to destroy literally everything in sight what else can you call them?
What can you call actual peaceful protesters, if people like you are going to take that as sarcastic reference to rioters instead?
You call it sarcasm but that's just a pathetic excuse like the one offered by Trump. You say something blatantly untrue, but if you get called out it's "sarcasm". You're deliberately appropriating the label "protesters" so it can't be used in its proper sense. Thus denying the very existence of those people.
Pretty cheap shit. You'll get called out for it any time I'm posting on the same page.
by Slaughter None » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:37 am
Liriena wrote:Slaughter None wrote:"Peaceful Protesters" was a joke obviously they are violent rioters and if they want to destroy literally everything in sight what else can you call them?
It's a joke you and your peers keep repeating over and over... and at the same time you never acknowledge that the actual peaceful protests even exist. Which seems rather convenient if you happened to be trying to demonize the entire civil rights movement without actually addressing its grievances.
Kinda like how your racist forebears smeared MLK and his peers as dangerous radicals until MLK himself became the most hated man in America and someone finally assassinated him.
by Liriena » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:37 am
Slaughter None wrote:Liriena wrote:Yes, lies and assumptions.
...oh wait, you're implying that BLM is the one of the "lies and assumptions", aren't you?
Ok, let me explain it to you
1st assumption: George Floyd was killed by the police officers.
2nd assumption: They did that for racist reasons
3rd assumption: So the majority/sizeable amount of the police officers are violent and/or racist
4th assumption: This means that the system is broken and there is systemic racism within America
5th assumption: The only way to stop this is through violence and bloodshed.
It's just layers of assumptions.
by Liriena » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:38 am
Slaughter None wrote:Liriena wrote:It's a joke you and your peers keep repeating over and over... and at the same time you never acknowledge that the actual peaceful protests even exist. Which seems rather convenient if you happened to be trying to demonize the entire civil rights movement without actually addressing its grievances.
Kinda like how your racist forebears smeared MLK and his peers as dangerous radicals until MLK himself became the most hated man in America and someone finally assassinated him.
Very non-racist of you to assume that my ancestors were racist well guess what my ancestors were not white.
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:39 am
Slaughter None wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
What can you call actual peaceful protesters, if people like you are going to take that as sarcastic reference to rioters instead?
You call it sarcasm but that's just a pathetic excuse like the one offered by Trump. You say something blatantly untrue, but if you get called out it's "sarcasm". You're deliberately appropriating the label "protesters" so it can't be used in its proper sense. Thus denying the very existence of those people.
Pretty cheap shit. You'll get called out for it any time I'm posting on the same page.
Wtf are you talking about? That footage was of a woman who had her store broken into and vandalized and all I am saying that this was done by violent rioters idk what you can't understand.
by Slaughter None » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:39 am
Liriena wrote:Slaughter None wrote:Ok, let me explain it to you
1st assumption: George Floyd was killed by the police officers.
2nd assumption: They did that for racist reasons
3rd assumption: So the majority/sizeable amount of the police officers are violent and/or racist
4th assumption: This means that the system is broken and there is systemic racism within America
5th assumption: The only way to stop this is through violence and bloodshed.
It's just layers of assumptions.
The first assumption has already been proven true. Floyd was choked to death.
The fourth assumption has been empirically proven and I've already provided a link to a sizeable bibliography showing it multiple times.
The fifth assumption is your own invention, not BLMs. A blatant strawman.
by Nuroblav » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:43 am
Haha fifth assumption go bye byeSlaughter None wrote:The first assumption is not"true" it is still an assumption and also pls show me the empirical evidence you have to prove the 4th assumption, the fifth assumption is what they are acting on and also what about the rest?
by Liriena » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:43 am
Liriena wrote:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ido70LgXsEhxcnyXE7RVS0wYJZc6aeVTpujCUPQgTrE/mobilebasic
The relevant highlights are:Institutional Racism
This entire section is credited to Rose Wrist, a former guest of the stream. (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3rSgPl8_RLMBHHsjaY7VAA, https://www.instagram.com/left__ty/)
They are near-entirely responsible for the collection of this data. Seriously, I just ripped most of this from their document - with their permission, of course. I’m only broadcasting their incredible work with my much larger audience.
https://www.sentencingproject.org/wp-co ... Matter.pdf
Extensive document on racial biases in our criminal justice system.
Studies seem to indicate about 61-80% of black overrepresentation in prisons can be explained by higher black crime rates, with the unexplained portion largely attributable to racial bias.
Remember - the factors which lead to disproportionate criminality amongst black Americans are also in large part a product of racial bias. Underfunded public programs, redlining, generational poverty, bad schooling, and myriad other factors which influence criminality can also be traced to racial bias.
Investigation of the Ferguson Police Department
Between 2012 and 2014, black people in Ferguson accounted for 85 percent of vehicle stops, 90 percent of citations and 93 percent of arrests, despite comprising 67 percent of the population.
Blacks were more than twice as likely as whites to be searched after traffic stops even after controlling for related variables, though they proved to be 26 percent less likely to be in possession of illegal drugs or weapons.
Between 2011 and 2013, blacks also received 95 percent of jaywalking tickets and 94 percent of tickets for “failure to comply.” The Justice Department also found that the racial discrepancy for speeding tickets increased dramatically when researchers looked at tickets based on only an officer’s word vs. tickets based on objective evidence, such as a radar.
Black people facing similar low-level charges as white people were 68 percent less likely to see those charges dismissed in court. More than 90 percent of the arrest warrants stemming from failure to pay/failure to appear were issued for black people.
Biases in Stops, Searches & Arrests
The Concentrated Racial Impact of Drug Imprisonment and the Characteristics of Punitive Counties
While White & Black Americans admit to using and selling illicit drugs at similar rates, Black Americans are VASTLY more likely to go to prison for a drug offense.
In 2002, Black Americans were incarcerated for drug offenses at TEN TIMES the rate of White Americans.
Today, Blacks are 3.7x as likely to be arrested for a marijuana offense as Whites, despite similar usage.
97% of “large-population counties” have racial biases in their drug offense incarceration.
Militarization fails to enhance police safety or reduce crime but may harm police reputation
Police militarization does not lead to a decrease in crimes committed or officer injuries, may actually increase both.
Police militarization (including the adoption of SWAT teams) decreases public trust in police, which may contribute to increases in crime.
Militarized police are disproportionately deployed in African American communities, even when accounting for crime rates.
https://www.acludc.org/sites/default/fi ... _final.pdf
This ACLU report reviews 5 months’ of data from DC police stops & searches by race and outcome.
The black population of DC is 25% greater than the white population, but black people were 410% more likely to be stopped by the police than white people
This disparity increases to 1465% for stops which led to no warning, ticket or arrest and 3695% for searches which led to no warning, ticket or arrest.
This data indicates the disproportionate stopping and searching of blacks in the DC area extended massively beyond any disproportionate rate of criminality.
The Problem of Infra-marginality in Outcome Tests for Discrimination
Analysis of 4.5 million traffic stops in North Carolina shows blacks and latinos were more likely to be searched than whites (5.4 percent, 4.1 percent and 3.1 percent, respectively).
Despite this, searches of white motorists were the most likely to reveal contraband (32% of whites, 29% of blacks, 19% of latinos).
https://drivingwhileblacknashville.file ... s-army.pdf
Between 2011 and 2015, black drivers in Nashville’s Davidson County were pulled over at a rate of 1,122 stops per 1,000 drivers — so on average, more than once per black driver.
Black drivers were also searched at twice the rate of white drivers, though — as in other jurisdictions — searches of white drivers were more likely to turn up contraband.
A large-scale analysis of racial disparities in police stops across the United States
Enormous study of nearly 100,000,000 traffic stops conducted across America.
Analysis finds the bar for searching black and hispanic drivers’ cars is significantly lower than the bar for white drivers.
Additionally, black drivers are less likely to be pulled over after sunset, when “a ‘veil of darkness’ masks ones’ race”.
Biases by Judges, Juries & Prosecutors
Demographic Differences in Sentencing: An Update to the 2012 Booker Report
Extensive multivariate regression analysis indicates black male offenders receive 19.1% longer federal sentences than similarly-situated white male offenders (white male offenders with similar past offenses, socioeconomic background, etc.)
This disparity seems to stem mostly from black males being 21.2% less likely to receive non-government sponsored downward departures or variances.
Non-government sponsored departures and variances refer to deviations from standard sentencing guidelines due to judicial discretion.
Black males who do receive non government-sponsored departures and variations still serve 16.8% longer sentences than white males on average.
In contrast, when sentencing length follows standard guidelines, that disparity is only 7.9%, and a substantial assistance departure for both groups nullifies that disparity.
IN SUMMARY - much of the sentencing disparity between similarly situated black males and white males comes down to judicial discretion to deviate from standard sentencing guidelines.
BONUS - regression analysis suggests violence in a criminal’s history does NOT explain sentencing disparities between black males and similarly situated white males - the effect of that factor seems to be statistically insignificant.
ADDENDUM - Some have asked me to clarify a sentence at the end of this report, where its authors write it cannot be used to prove discrimination on the part of judges. First, that disclaimer warns against inferring active discrimination as opposed to implicit bias - the disclaimer does not say the report cannot be used to prove implicit bias. Second, researchers are often quick to point out their research cannot prove a point, especially regarding intent. It can only strongly suggest a point - natural limitation of multivariate regression analysis.
Racial Disparity in Federal Criminal Sentences
Examination of federal data indicates Black Americans spend about 10% more time in prison when compared to comparable Whites who commit the same crimes.
Additionally, Black arrestees are 75% more likely to be charged with a crime carrying a mandatory minimum sentence.
Prosecutors contribute massively to this undeniable racial bias.???
Report on Jury Selection Study
Between 1990 and 2010, state prosecutors struck about 53% of black people eligible for juries in criminal cases, as opposed to 26% of white people. The study’s authors testified the odds of this taking place in a race-neutral context were around 1 in 10 trillion.
After accounting for factors prosecutors select for which tend to correlate with race, black people were still struck twice as often.
North Carolina’s state legislator had previously passed a law stating death penalty defendants who could demonstrate racial bias in their jury selection could have their sentences changed to life without parole. The legislature later repealed that law.
Different Shades of Bias: Skin Tone, Implicit Racial Bias, and Judgments of Ambiguous Evidence
In this study, two groups of mock jurors were given a collection of race-neutral evidence from an armed robbery, with one group’s alleged perpetrator being shown to be light-skinned and the other dark-skinned.
Jurors were significantly more likely to evaluate ambiguous, race-neutral evidence against the dark-skinned suspect as incriminating and more likely to find the dark-skinned suspect guilty.
https://bja.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xycku ... ummary.pdf
Government aggregate of data on plea and charge bargaining.
“Studies that assess the effects of race find that blacks are less likely to receive a reduced charge compared with whites.”
“Studies have generally found a relationship between race and whether or not a defendant receives a reduced charge.”
“The majority of research on race and sentencing outcomes shows that blacks are less likely than whites to receive reduced pleas.“
In short, collected data strongly indicates a racial bias against blacks with regards to sentencing and plea bargains.
https://www.yalelawjournal.org/article/ ... -of-booker
Black men are twice as likely to have charges which carry mandatory minimum sentences filed against them than similarly-situated white men.
This article recommends against the tightening of judicial discretion, arguing that process has historically led to greater racial sentencing disparities.
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/do ... 1&type=pdf
Black defendants with multiple prior convictions are 28% more likely to be charged as “habitual offenders” than similarly-situated white defendants.
“Assessments of dangerousness and culpability are linked to race and ethnicity, even after offense seriousness and prior record are controlled.”
https://sci-hub.tw/https://onlinelibrar ... jels.12077
A study of first-time felons in Georgia found black men received sentences of on average 270 days longer than similarly-situated white males.
However, when black males were differentiated by skin tone, it was found light-skinned black men saw virtually no disparity in their sentencing while dark-skinned black men actually saw a disparity of around 400 days in prison.
https://sci-hub.tw/https://papers.ssrn. ... id=1990324
A study of bail in 5 large counties found blacks received significantly higher bail than whites who had committed similar crimes.
The bail was $7,000 higher for violent crimes, $13,000 higher for drug crimes and $10,000 higher for crimes related to public order.
https://www.urban.org/sites/default/fil ... cation.PDF
The Urban Institute analyzed the histories of four probation offices and found black people were 18-39% more likely than similarly-situated white people to have their probation revoked.
Biases in Death Penalty Sentencing
https://files.deathpenaltyinfo.org/lega ... dy2014.pdf
Analysis of 33 years of data from Washington State to determine which characteristics best predict the decision to implement a death sentence.
Black defendants are 4.5 times as likely to receive a death sentence as similarly-situated whites.
Other factors (presence of aggravating circumstances, involvement of sex crimes, hostage-taking, etc.) explain only a small fraction of the disparity in prosecutors’ and juries’ decision to invoke the death penalty against black defendents.
Race was by far the most influential statistical factor.
https://www.uky.edu/AS/PoliSci/Peffley/ ... worthy.pdf
Analysis of the relationship between racial stereotyping and death sentence convictions.
Black defendants who possessed darker skin and more “stereotypically black” features were twice as likely to be given the death penalty when accused of murdering a white person, as compared to lighter-skinned blacks with less “stereotypically black” features.
This disparity disappears completely when the murder victim is black.
Implicit Bias
DOES APPEARANCE MATTER?: THE EFFECT OF SKIN TONES ON TRUSTWORTHY AND INNOCENT APPEARANCES
Photos of capital inmates shown to entry-level criminal justice students for them to evaluate the trustworthiness of the faces.
Students rated pictures of light-skinned inmates as more trustworthy when they preceded pictures of dark-skinned inmates.
Most study participants (79.9%) were white, but the study predicted that this wasn’t a major factor - “When controlling for race, no statistically significant result was found. This suggests that each race, White and non-White, were consistent in their rating outcomes. Prior research has found similar results, where Whites and light-skinned Blacks are likely to share similar attitudes towards darker-skinned Blacks”
Black Boys Viewed as Older, Less Innocent Than Whites, Research Finds
Students and police officers participated in tests to determine levels of racial bias and perception of innocence.
Black boys as young as 10 are more likely to be considered criminal or untrustworthy, and more likely to face police violence.
Police officers were tested on dehumanization of blacks by comparing people of different races to animal groups. Police who engaged in higher levels of dehumanization were more likely to use violence against black children.
Racial Bias in Judgments of Physical Size and Formidability
Results from three separate studies on perception and racial bias show people have a tendency to perceive black men as larger and more threatening than similarly sized white men.
Participants also believed the black men were more capable of causing harm in a hypothetical altercation and police would be more justified in using force to subdue them, even if the men were unarmed.
by Slaughter None » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:44 am
Liriena wrote:Slaughter None wrote:Very non-racist of you to assume that my ancestors were racist well guess what my ancestors were not white.
Bad wording on my part. "Predecessors" would have fit my meaning better.
Nothing new under the sun, is my point. Your smears are the same smears of racists from decades past.
by Liriena » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:45 am
Nuroblav wrote:Haha fifth assumption go bye byeSlaughter None wrote:The first assumption is not"true" it is still an assumption and also pls show me the empirical evidence you have to prove the 4th assumption, the fifth assumption is what they are acting on and also what about the rest?
Sure there have been some riots but the assumptions that this is how they have all - or even the majority - acted is quite clearly incorrect.
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