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Are the police racist?

Yes
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No
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Postby Galloism » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:16 pm

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Postby Nazeroth » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:17 pm

Galloism wrote:I’d like my money back on the last page, please. Let me speak to your manager.


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Postby Liriena » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:17 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Liriena wrote:You called it garbage without reading it because you thought it was left-wing.

Let me ask you this: do you really think that any research is inherently invalid if it was made by people with left-wing opinions or funded by a left-wing institution?


I did read it, if you click issues the entire left side of the page is leftist talking points da fuck are you saying?

You didn't answer my question.
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Postby Nazeroth » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:19 pm

Liriena wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
I did read it, if you click issues the entire left side of the page is leftist talking points da fuck are you saying?

You didn't answer my question.


Not neccessarily, but that website is obviously and blatantly propagandist

Would you accept far right publications as sources?
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Postby Liriena » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:28 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Liriena wrote:You didn't answer my question.


Not neccessarily, but that website is obviously and blatantly propagandist

Would you accept far right publications as sources?

Accept in what sense? Taking them at their word without checking the substance of a report they published? No.

Here's the thing tho: if you are convinced that their report might be wrong, or that they might have given it a dishonest spin... you can check it, and then make your own conclusions.

The far right loves to cite numbers like the notorious "1350". The good news is that we have the tools to debunk them and we ought to use them.
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Postby Nazeroth » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:33 pm

Liriena wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Not neccessarily, but that website is obviously and blatantly propagandist

Would you accept far right publications as sources?

Accept in what sense? Taking them at their word without checking the substance of a report they published? No.

Here's the thing tho: if you are convinced that their report might be wrong, or that they might have given it a dishonest spin... you can check it, and then make your own conclusions.

The far right loves to cite numbers like the notorious "1350". The good news is that we have the tools to debunk them and we ought to use them.



who is "the far-right?" exactly
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Postby Slaughter None » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:40 pm

Now, these sort of politics have gotten into my favourite video game so that's great
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:43 pm

Slaughter None wrote:Now, these sort of politics have gotten into my favourite video game.

Art/media... being political??? *shocked pikachu face*
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Postby Slaughter None » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:45 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:Now, these sort of politics have gotten into my favourite video game.

Art/media... being political??? *shocked pikachu face*

I wouldn't like any sort of politics in entertainment even if it was a similar opinion to mine.
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:47 pm

Slaughter None wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Art/media... being political??? *shocked pikachu face*

I wouldn't like any sort of politics in entertainment even if it was a similar opinion to mine.

Well that's a surefire way to limit your choices. Like, what have you got left? Tetris? Pac-Man?
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Postby Fahran » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:47 pm

So I decided to do a little bit of foot work on claims about FBI reports indicating large-scale infiltration of law enforcement by white nationalists and white supremacists and the general impression I got is that a lot of the evidence is anecdotal and that proper figures are extremely difficult to come by.

Accusations of gang affiliations have hounded law enforcement officers in and around LA, but people in positions of authority categorically deny the gangs have institutional power. A lot of these have been motorcycle gangs or Neo-Nazi gangs with ties to other sorts of criminal activity. We have very little evidence to demonstrate that this problem is pervasive nation-wide or that authority figures are on board with it. On the contrary, it seems localized.

With regard to the 2006 FBI report, this is the portion of the text that has been declassified at this time. A lot of the anxiety seems to focus on how infilitration by Ku Klux Klan and skinheads could compromise sensitive information about tactics and techniques and compromise ongoing investigations into white nationalist groups. Which suggests that the fear is more about lone "ghost skins" than about damage to the integrity of departments on the whole. Snopes confirmed much of this as well. Essentially, it's a concern but framing it in the way that it is often framed is probably a bit histrionic and dishonest.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:50 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:I wouldn't like any sort of politics in entertainment even if it was a similar opinion to mine.

Well that's a surefire way to limit your choices. Like, what have you got left? Tetris? Pac-Man?

You mean building practice the Bourgeoisie force on the proletariat unpaid to learn how to build their buildings and the robber baron pac man eating up all the resources leaving none for the ghosts?
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Postby Slaughter None » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:53 pm

Galloism wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Well that's a surefire way to limit your choices. Like, what have you got left? Tetris? Pac-Man?

You mean building practice the Bourgeoisie force on the proletariat unpaid to learn how to build their buildings and the robber baron pac man eating up all the resources leaving none for the ghosts?

I was talking about blm but sure.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:54 pm

Slaughter None wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Art/media... being political??? *shocked pikachu face*

I wouldn't like any sort of politics in entertainment even if it was a similar opinion to mine.

This really isn't the thread for this but... all art, media and entertainment is political. There is no apolitical art, media or entertainment.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:55 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:I wouldn't like any sort of politics in entertainment even if it was a similar opinion to mine.

Well that's a surefire way to limit your choices. Like, what have you got left? Tetris? Pac-Man?

Even Tetris is political, though. There may not be characters that, like, say in dialogue that they support Marxism-Leninism, but as a game developed in the USSR it necessarily reflects the politics of life in the USSR in some way.
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Postby Slaughter None » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:56 pm

Liriena wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:I wouldn't like any sort of politics in entertainment even if it was a similar opinion to mine.

This really isn't the thread for this but... all art, media and entertainment is political. There is no apolitical art, media or entertainment.

I mean get political on these protests supporting them or not.

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Postby Slaughter None » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:31 pm

Widow of former police officer at the RNC:-
https://youtu.be/OON3Ea4WFvc

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Postby Nazeroth » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:33 pm

Slaughter None wrote:Widow of former police officer at the RNC:-
https://youtu.be/OON3Ea4WFvc


Yeah that shit was messed up
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:35 pm

Slaughter None wrote:Widow of former police officer at the RNC:-
https://youtu.be/OON3Ea4WFvc


The guys daughters disagree with her doing that.

They said their dad was a democrat and didn’t like Trump. He wouldn’t have agreed to have him used in Trumps version of law and order.
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The Mets and Marlins staged a protest. Silence for 42 seconds; left a BLM shirt on the field and left.

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Postby Slaughter None » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:37 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:Widow of former police officer at the RNC:-
https://youtu.be/OON3Ea4WFvc


The guys daughters disagree with her doing that.

They said their dad was a democrat and didn’t like Trump. He wouldn’t have agreed to have him used in Trumps version of law and order.

He died because of these so called "protesters" if he knew what would have happened to him he probably would have supported "Trump's version of law and order"
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Postby Shazbotdom » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:40 pm

Slaughter None wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
The guys daughters disagree with her doing that.

They said their dad was a democrat and didn’t like Trump. He wouldn’t have agreed to have him used in Trumps version of law and order.

He died because of these so called "protesters" if he knew what would have happened to him he probably would have supported "Trump's version of law and order"

If Trump's version of "Law and Order" means an ever exploding budget that is not needed, police doing jobs that they shouldn't have to, and a continuation of the endless "war on drugs", then that's not the Law and Order we should strive for.
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:41 pm

Slaughter None wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
The guys daughters disagree with her doing that.

They said their dad was a democrat and didn’t like Trump. He wouldn’t have agreed to have him used in Trumps version of law and order.

He died because of these so called "protesters" if he knew what would have happened to him he probably would have supported "Trump's version of law and order"


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Postby Slaughter None » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:42 pm

And also does it matter that he was a democrat? He was killed for simply protecting a store and then his murder was livestreamed and yet nothing absolutely nothing happened to these people, even if they go to jail they will be bailed out.

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Postby Slaughter None » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:43 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:He died because of these so called "protesters" if he knew what would have happened to him he probably would have supported "Trump's version of law and order"

If Trump's version of "Law and Order" means an ever exploding budget that is not needed, police doing jobs that they shouldn't have to, and a continuation of the endless "war on drugs", then that's not the Law and Order we should strive for.

We are talking about the protests/riots.

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