US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread II

[Greater Miami Shores]

I find it funny your so up in arms about the constitution you don't actually care about.

Also, they have probable cause. They record who was at an attack on federal property and try to hunt them down later.

Don't lie. Now you're contradicting Kris Cline, Deputy Director of the Federal Protective Service, who said they had no such recording. They had him seen him "in a crowd and in an area" near where someone else had a laser, notably NOT doing anything illegal. They arrested him and detained him, but "released the individual because they did not have what they needed" to prosecute.

"I find it funny your so up in arms about the constitution you don't actually care about: This line has been used against me on this site by certain leftists, and I think on this thread. I would have to check many posts to remember the ones who have posted it too me.

[Gravlen]

Don't lie. Now you're contradicting Kris Cline, Deputy Director of the Federal Protective Service, who said they had no such recording. They had him seen him "in a crowd and in an area" near where someone else had a laser, notably NOT doing anything illegal. They arrested him and detained him, but "released the individual because they did not have what they needed" to prosecute.

"I find it funny your so up in arms about the constitution you don't actually care about: This line has been used against me on this site by certain leftists, and I think on this thread. I would have to check many posts to remember the ones who have posted it too me.

OK? And?

[Greater Miami Shores]

"I find it funny your so up in arms about the constitution you don't actually care about: This line has been used against me on this site by certain leftists, and I think on this thread. I would have to check many posts to remember the ones who have posted it too me.

OK? And?

Just saying, you are not the only one this line has been used on, and by a leftist on me.

[Gravlen]

OK? And?

Just saying, you are not the only one this line has been used on, and by a leftist on me.

Swell.

[Neutraligon]

And what does Chicago have anything to do with Portland anyways?

Gorm left out the full quote: I posted the video of rioters in Chicago throwing things at cops. The Democrast and Democrat mayors are not doing a good job against the rioters and looters. But blame Trump and refuse his help, Trump is trying to stop it. I don't want to see anyone hurt or worse, but Law and Order is not BS. Many Republicans agree with me, many ignore posting on these 4 related threads, according to my conversations off site.
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It is not an eye for an eye, it is law and order against riots and looting, and hurting cops, Which is not BS. Blue Lives Matter too, Black Lives Matter and all Lives Matter. Chicago, Portland and other cities are related in these incidents.

Funny thing, the feds are doing a worse job in Portland then the cops did. You know why? Because the cops actually learned that people in Portland respond really badly to police using tear gas on them. They respond even worse to the actions the Fed are doing. Things have been worse in Portland since they have arrived.

[The Black Forrest]

Gorm left out the full quote: I posted the video of rioters in Chicago throwing things at cops. The Democrast and Democrat mayors are not doing a good job against the rioters and looters. But blame Trump and refuse his help, Trump is trying to stop it. I don't want to see anyone hurt or worse, but Law and Order is not BS. Many Republicans agree with me, many ignore posting on these 4 related threads, according to my conversations off site.
viewtopic.php?p=37437602#p37437602

It is not an eye for an eye, it is law and order against riots and looting, and hurting cops, Which is not BS. Blue Lives Matter too, Black Lives Matter and all Lives Matter. Chicago, Portland and other cities are related in these incidents.

Funny thing, the feds are doing a worse job in Portland then the cops did. You know why? Because the cops actually learned that people in Portland respond really badly to police using tear gas on them. They respond even worse to the actions the Fed are doing. Things have been worse in Portland since they have arrived.

Indeed. If I had to guess, it’s part of the plan to mess things up so he can try and distract people with a message of see the democrats can do anything right and avoid having to defend his failures.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Gorm left out the full quote: I posted the video of rioters in Chicago throwing things at cops. The Democrast and Democrat mayors are not doing a good job against the rioters and looters. But blame Trump and refuse his help, Trump is trying to stop it. I don't want to see anyone hurt or worse, but Law and Order is not BS. Many Republicans agree with me, many ignore posting on these 4 related threads, according to my conversations off site.
viewtopic.php?p=37437602#p37437602

It is not an eye for an eye, it is law and order against riots and looting, and hurting cops, Which is not BS. Blue Lives Matter too, Black Lives Matter and all Lives Matter. Chicago, Portland and other cities are related in these incidents.

Funny thing, the feds are doing a worse job in Portland then the cops did. You know why? Because the cops actually learned that people in Portland respond really badly to police using tear gas on them. They respond even worse to the actions the Fed are doing. Things have been worse in Portland since they have arrived.

I stand by my post above, which I don't expect any liberals, Democrats and anti Trump persons to agree with. We are not here to agree with each other, we are here to share our different views on all issues.

[Adamede]

From what I've seen and read about these issues are also common in police departments that are majority minority officers, such as the NYPD iirc.
And being white doesn't automatically make you immune to being a victim of police brutality, but that doesn't change the fact that minorities seem to be victims of it at scale far larger than their make up in society.
I think that while racism is a component of the problem with the outlook of modern American police departments, I think that it's not one that can be used to cover every incident with every department. Rather I think we have a problem with a widespread "us vs. them" attitude from various departments, an in group and an out group.

[West Leas Oros 2]

From what I've seen and read about these issues are also common in police departments that are majority minority officers, such as the NYPD iirc.
And being white doesn't automatically make you immune to being a victim of police brutality, but that doesn't change the fact that minorities seem to be victims of it at scale far larger than their make up in society.
I think that while racism is a component of the problem with the outlook of modern American police departments, I think that it's not one that can be used to cover every incident with every department. Rather I think we have a problem with a widespread "us vs. them" attitude from various departments, an in group and an out group.

One might also point out the role police have in relation to other institutions.

[Neutraligon]

Funny thing, the feds are doing a worse job in Portland then the cops did. You know why? Because the cops actually learned that people in Portland respond really badly to police using tear gas on them. They respond even worse to the actions the Fed are doing. Things have been worse in Portland since they have arrived.

I stand by my post above, which I don't expect any liberals, Democrats and anti Trump persons to agree with. We are not here to agree with each other, we are here to share our different views on all issues.

You standby your post despite the feds doing worse and making things worse. Why?

[Adamede]

From what I've seen and read about these issues are also common in police departments that are majority minority officers, such as the NYPD iirc.
And being white doesn't automatically make you immune to being a victim of police brutality, but that doesn't change the fact that minorities seem to be victims of it at scale far larger than their make up in society.
I think that while racism is a component of the problem with the outlook of modern American police departments, I think that it's not one that can be used to cover every incident with every department. Rather I think we have a problem with a widespread "us vs. them" attitude from various departments, an in group and an out group.

One might also point out the role police have in relation to other institutions.

You mind expanding on that?

[The Black Forrest]

Funny thing, the feds are doing a worse job in Portland then the cops did. You know why? Because the cops actually learned that people in Portland respond really badly to police using tear gas on them. They respond even worse to the actions the Fed are doing. Things have been worse in Portland since they have arrived.

I stand by my post above, which I don't expect any liberals, Democrats and anti Trump persons to agree with. We are not here to agree with each other, we are here to share our different views on all issues.

If they are making things worse, why do you support it?

[West Leas Oros 2]

One might also point out the role police have in relation to other institutions.

You mind expanding on that?

The police dont exist in a vacuum, and as such, are subject to the influence of other institutions. At a fundamental level, police exist because the government makes them exist, and so the police ultimately protect the government, for good or ill. Also, the police lobby to the government, further complicating their relationship. Police, as agents of the state, protect its interests.

[Adamede]

You mind expanding on that?

The police dont exist in a vacuum, and as such, are subject to the influence of other institutions. At a fundamental level, police exist because the government makes them exist, and so the police ultimately protect the government, for good or ill. Also, the police lobby to the government, further complicating their relationship. Police, as agents of the state, protect its interests.

Agreed.

[Vassenor]

So apparently anti-mask demos are OK but anti-police racism demos are not in America.

[Gormwood]

So apparently anti-mask demos are OK but anti-police racism demos are not in America.

Imagine if someone ran through that parade hacking and wheezing.

[Greater Miami Shores]

So apparently anti-mask demos are OK but anti-police racism demos are not in America.

anti police demonstrations with demonstrators throwing things at police like the Chicago video I posted should not be ok in America. Anti police demonstrators protesting peacefully should be ok in America. But they will not get any support from me, for being anti all cops.

[Genivaria]

So apparently anti-mask demos are OK but anti-police racism demos are not in America.

Huh wonder where all the police are, seems like if you protest masks nothing happens to you, but if you protest police brutality and police murdering people you get your face caved in.

[Genivaria]

So apparently anti-mask demos are OK but anti-police racism demos are not in America.

anti police demonstrations with demonstrators throwing things at police like the Chicago video I posted should not be ok in America. Anti police demonstrators protesting peacefully should be ok in America. But they will not get any support from me, for being anti all cops.

Of course they won't, because you love the boot.

[Gormwood]

So apparently anti-mask demos are OK but anti-police racism demos are not in America.

Huh wonder where all the police are, seems like if you protest masks nothing happens to you, but if you protest police brutality and police murdering people you get your face caved in.

Maybe the police know better than to beat up plague parties.

[Neutraligon]

So apparently anti-mask demos are OK but anti-police racism demos are not in America.

anti police demonstrations with demonstrators throwing things at police like the Chicago video I posted should not be ok in America. Anti police demonstrators protesting peacefully should be ok in America. But they will not get any support from me, for being anti all cops.

Guess you are not going to answer why you standby your post while the feds are actively making things worse.

[Gormwood]

anti police demonstrations with demonstrators throwing things at police like the Chicago video I posted should not be ok in America. Anti police demonstrators protesting peacefully should be ok in America. But they will not get any support from me, for being anti all cops.

Guess you are not going to answer why you standby your post while the feds are actively making things worse.

Because he's the archetypal Trump cultist. Unconditional, unquestioning support with no solid logical reasoning behind it.

[North America and the Great Lakes]

anti police demonstrations with demonstrators throwing things at police like the Chicago video I posted should not be ok in America. Anti police demonstrators protesting peacefully should be ok in America. But they will not get any support from me, for being anti all cops.

Guess you are not going to answer why you standby your post while the feds are actively making things worse.

It's likely because Trump supporters never actually cared about the rule of law. They're willing to throw the whole system away and accept authoritarian rule to own the libs.

[Genivaria]

Huh wonder where all the police are, seems like if you protest masks nothing happens to you, but if you protest police brutality and police murdering people you get your face caved in.

Maybe the police know better than to beat up plague parties.

Ah yes my mistake. Getting close to plague-bearers is self-defeating.

[Greater Miami Shores]

anti police demonstrations with demonstrators throwing things at police like the Chicago video I posted should not be ok in America. Anti police demonstrators protesting peacefully should be ok in America. But they will not get any support from me, for being anti all cops.

Of course they won't, because you love the boot.

This sounds like you are biased, No, because I respect law and order under the laws, which is not BS. Because I respect cops. I don't fear cops, I know a few good cops. I was just about to add, and those burning building and looting. A true story, I was once stopped late at night by a cop, I was driving and with an American friend. My American fried was being rude to the cop. I was being respectful. I was concerned because we each drank a few beers. The cop said to my friend, you are being disrespectful too me, your friend is being very respectful. He let us go with no problems.