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Are the police racist?

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No
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Postby Cisairse » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:00 pm

The details of the above post are subject to leftist infighting.

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Postby Kowani » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:45 pm

La xinga wrote:Why is looting justified?
The looting is a response to a culture that values the commodity over human life and has instilled that mindset into the membership society, that the commodity-and by extension, private property, are what is important, all else be damned. We would then come to understand, from such a point of view, why looters and rioters feel that the only valid manner of expression is one that attacks the commodity, that threatens its sacred place in the cultural hegemon.

From a less hostile perspective, we could also say that the response and lack thereof to peaceful protests has sent a message, that violence is the only language the state understands.

In addition, there is a third analysis that would say that if people feel as if their lives could be cut short at any moment when following the law, why do so?
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Because giving a public institution less resources will certainly make it better

Yeah, I don't buy this shit.
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Postby Agarntrop » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:52 pm

Kowani wrote:
La xinga wrote:Why is looting justified?
The looting is a response to a culture that values the commodity over human life and has instilled that mindset into the membership society, that the commodity-and by extension, private property, are what is important, all else be damned. We would then come to understand, from such a point of view, why looters and rioters feel that the only valid manner of expression is one that attacks the commodity, that threatens its sacred place in the cultural hegemon.

From a less hostile perspective, we could also say that the response and lack thereof to peaceful protests has sent a message, that violence is the only language the state understands.

In addition, there is a third analysis that would say that if people feel as if their lives could be cut short at any moment when following the law, why do so?

Theft dosen't become justified because it is somehow anti-capitalist.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:53 pm

Agarntrop wrote:

Because giving a public institution less resources will certainly make it better

Yeah, I don't buy this shit.


On the bright side all that money that would've been spent buying military surplus might actually go to something useful.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:53 pm

Agarntrop wrote:

Because giving a public institution less resources will certainly make it better

Yeah, I don't buy this shit.

Hes a horrible mayor and seems determined to do the most damage possible before he leaves office in 2022

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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Because giving a public institution less resources will certainly make it better

Yeah, I don't buy this shit.

Hes a horrible mayor and seems determined to do the most damage possible before he leaves office in 2022


Personal prejudices against de Blasio notwithstanding, defunding the police is a good thing, actually. Huge source of budgetary waste if we're being honest.
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Valrifell wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Because giving a public institution less resources will certainly make it better

Yeah, I don't buy this shit.


On the bright side all that money that would've been spent buying military surplus might actually go to something useful.

"Military surplus"

Because every police officer drives a tank, right?
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:57 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
On the bright side all that money that would've been spent buying military surplus might actually go to something useful.

"Military surplus"

Because every police officer drives a tank, right?


Because every police department needs armored vehicles and body armor for every officer, right?
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:57 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:https://theappeal.org/minneapolis-city-council-members-announce-intent-to-disband-the-police-department-invest-in-proven-community-led-public-safety/

Read this. Really. Holy fuck.


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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:58 pm

Valrifell wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Hes a horrible mayor and seems determined to do the most damage possible before he leaves office in 2022


Personal prejudices against de Blasio notwithstanding, defunding the police is a good thing, actually. Huge source of budgetary waste if we're being honest.

No it isn't and plays right into Republicans hands. There ought to be police oversight boards and better police chiefs. Reducing funding isn't the answer

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:58 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:https://theappeal.org/minneapolis-city-council-members-announce-intent-to-disband-the-police-department-invest-in-proven-community-led-public-safety/

Read this. Really. Holy fuck.

are they freaking serious? Who or what is going to replace them?

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Postby La Xinga » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:59 pm


THIS IS MAD. In the time when the N.Y.P.D. needs it most.

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Postby Agarntrop » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:59 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:"Military surplus"

Because every police officer drives a tank, right?


Because every police department needs armored vehicles and body armor for every officer, right?

Ah yes, because every officer in the NYPD has personal armored vehicles.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:00 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:https://theappeal.org/minneapolis-city-council-members-announce-intent-to-disband-the-police-department-invest-in-proven-community-led-public-safety/

Read this. Really. Holy fuck.

are they freaking serious? Who or what is going to replace them?


Why do you presume they don't have a plan? They do, for the record, as the article notes.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:00 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:https://theappeal.org/minneapolis-city-council-members-announce-intent-to-disband-the-police-department-invest-in-proven-community-led-public-safety/

Read this. Really. Holy fuck.

are they freaking serious? Who or what is going to replace them?


Ask them, not me. I have no idea.

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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:00 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Personal prejudices against de Blasio notwithstanding, defunding the police is a good thing, actually. Huge source of budgetary waste if we're being honest.

No it isn't and plays right into Republicans hands. There ought to be police oversight boards and better police chiefs. Reducing funding isn't the answer


It's not the catch-all solution, but it's not a bad thing.

The alternative, which what you seem to be advocating for, is ever inflating budgets. To what end?
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:01 pm

La xinga wrote:

THIS IS MAD. In the time when the N.Y.P.D. needs it most.


Why
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:01 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
San Lumen wrote:are they freaking serious? Who or what is going to replace them?


Ask them, not me. I have no idea.


I've heard dumb ideas but this has to be by far one of the dumbest things I've ever heard a politician say. Perhaps they will have the sheriffs department take over?

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Postby Liriena » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:02 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:https://theappeal.org/minneapolis-city-council-members-announce-intent-to-disband-the-police-department-invest-in-proven-community-led-public-safety/

Read this. Really. Holy fuck.

Fuck yes.

La xinga wrote:

THIS IS MAD. In the time when the N.Y.P.D. needs it most.

They have a bloated budget which they've used to brutalize innocent New Yorkers en masse. Fuck them.
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Postby La Xinga » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:02 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Ask them, not me. I have no idea.


I've heard dumb ideas but this has to be by far one of the dumbest things I've ever heard a politician say. Perhaps they will have the sheriffs department take over?

And then we will hear riots for "disband the sheriffs!"

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Postby Galloism » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Ask them, not me. I have no idea.


I've heard dumb ideas but this has to be by far one of the dumbest things I've ever heard a politician say. Perhaps they will have the sheriffs department take over?

Maybe they just give every household a gun and have like a reserve detachment they can call when needed.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Ask them, not me. I have no idea.


I've heard dumb ideas but this has to be by far one of the dumbest things I've ever heard a politician say. Perhaps they will have the sheriffs department take over?


You live in the era of Donald Trump and this is the most fucked up thing you've heard a politician say? Really?

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:03 pm

Galloism wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I've heard dumb ideas but this has to be by far one of the dumbest things I've ever heard a politician say. Perhaps they will have the sheriffs department take over?

Maybe they just give every household a gun and have like a reserve detachment they can call when needed.

I doubt they do that. I hope this mayor and city Council is replaced next elected.

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