US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread II

[Cisairse]

The police are doing an absolutely fantastic job of protecting people's constitutional rights these days.

Come on, please?

American police are in danger from those peaceful protesters you know. They’ve got such hard heads that police batons are liable to bounce straight off of them and hit innocent cops in the face. Isn’t that sad?

Sad!

[SangMar]

Just crossposting this from the UKPol thread:

Protesters in Bristol pull down a statue of slave trader Edward Colston.

A slave trader's statue in Bristol has been torn down and thrown into the harbour during a second day of anti-racism protests across the UK.

In Bristol, protesters used ropes to pull down the bronze statue of Edward Colston, a prominent 17th Century slave trader, who has been a source of controversy in the city for many years.

The statue was later dragged through the streets of Bristol and thrown into the harbour. The empty plinth was used as a makeshift stage for protesters.

Colston was a member of the Royal African Company, which transported about 80,000 men, women and children from Africa to the Americas.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52954305

Old news my man. Fuck him and fuck slavery.

Target these BLM-UK - not war memorials, especially since we’re around the 76th anniversary of D-Day. You know? The fight against legitimate fascism?

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Just crossposting this from the UKPol thread:

Protesters in Bristol pull down a statue of slave trader Edward Colston.

A slave trader's statue in Bristol has been torn down and thrown into the harbour during a second day of anti-racism protests across the UK.

In Bristol, protesters used ropes to pull down the bronze statue of Edward Colston, a prominent 17th Century slave trader, who has been a source of controversy in the city for many years.

The statue was later dragged through the streets of Bristol and thrown into the harbour. The empty plinth was used as a makeshift stage for protesters.

Colston was a member of the Royal African Company, which transported about 80,000 men, women and children from Africa to the Americas.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52954305

Done already. But I'm sure you'll find someone to discuss it some more.

I'm opposed to tearing down public monuments, whoever they're of. Campaign against the thing and hold a public vote.

[SangMar]

Come on, please?

American police are in danger from those peaceful protesters you know. They’ve got such hard heads that police batons are liable to bounce straight off of them and hit innocent cops in the face. Isn’t that sad?

Sad!

THUGS are using their heads to attack our cops. No more! Democrats - and sleepy Joe Biden need to criticize them! Where are you Democrats? SAD!

[Fartsniffage]

https://imgur.com/gallery/HVO5lyE

Chauvin was involved in election fraud in 2016 and 2018....

[Nakena]

The problem with the american Police is not that it is being a Police but that it has gone strayed away from the principles of what a proper and good police ought to be, and upon which the entire institution was originally founded.

Nine principles were set out in the "General Instructions" issued to every new police officer in the Metropolitan Police from 1829.[1][9] Although Peel discussed the spirit of some of these principles in his speeches and other communications, the historians Susan Lentz and Robert Chaires found no proof that he compiled a formal list.[10] The Home Office has suggested that the instructions were probably written, not by Peel himself, but by Charles Rowan and Richard Mayne, the joint Commissioners of the Metropolitan Police when it was founded.[1][9]

The nine principles were as follows:


To prevent crime and disorder, as an alternative to their repression by military force and severity of legal punishment.

To recognise always that the power of the police to fulfill their functions and duties is dependent on public approval of their existence, actions and behaviour, and on their ability to secure and maintain public respect.

To recognise always that to secure and maintain the respect and approval of the public means also the securing of the willing co-operation of the public in the task of securing observance of laws.

To recognise always that the extent to which the co-operation of the public can be secured diminishes proportionately the necessity of the use of physical force and compulsion for achieving police objectives.

To seek and preserve public favour, not by pandering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolutely impartial service to law, in complete independence of policy, and without regard to the justice or injustice of the substance of individual laws, by ready offering of individual service and friendship to all members of the public without regard to their wealth or social standing, by ready exercise of courtesy and friendly good humour, and by ready offering of individual sacrifice in protecting and preserving life.

To use physical force only when the exercise of persuasion, advice and warning is found to be insufficient to obtain public co-operation to an extent necessary to secure observance of law or to restore order, and to use only the minimum degree of physical force which is necessary on any particular occasion for achieving a police objective.

To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.

To recognise always the need for strict adherence to police-executive functions, and to refrain from even seeming to usurp the powers of the judiciary, of avenging individuals or the State, and of authoritatively judging guilt and punishing the guilty.

To recognise always that the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, and not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them.

[The Alma Mater]

Sad!

THUGS are using their heads to attack our cops. No more! Democrats - and sleepy Joe Biden need to criticize them! Where are you Democrats? SAD!

Negotiating with Colin Powell to convince him to actively campaign for Biden.

[SangMar]

https://imgur.com/gallery/HVO5lyE

Chauvin was involved in election fraud in 2016 and 2018....

Well fuck, he’s definitely going inside.

[Caracasus]

Is the cause of the UK's inevitable second wave of covid-19 that you were referring to, yes?

No. I'd say thousands of protestors, huddled together in heavily-populated areas, are more likely to cause a second wave than one man and his family going on an extended trip to Barnard Castle Specsavers.

but I am fairly sure that a statue put up to a slaver isn't actually historically that important

The meaning of the statue is unimportant. It's a 125-year-old piece of history and it should be treated as such.

It's either a piece of history or the meaning of it is unimportant mate, can't be both.

Besides, the place is full of 125 year or older crap cluttering up the place. Plenty more old statues about, some of them not commemorating slavers who attempted to buy restitution for their sins.

[The New California Republic]

Old news my man.

Done already. But I'm sure you'll find someone to discuss it some more.

Posted it regardless.

[Velosia]

My house is older than that statue, you going to shout at me for taking out the chimney breast?

Honestly? I probably would, actually. At least if you were doing it for no real reason other than that you just 'didn't like it' or something like that. But then that's just me.

I'd say the main difference here is that, that statue was a publicly-owned artistic work, commissioned by the city of Bristol (I assume) and intended to serve as a piece of cultural history. In terms of historical merit, it is worth much more to society than your chimney breast. Besides, I don't disagree with the statue being taken down, I just don't agree with the way it was 'taken' down.

Ultimately though, I'm just having a hard time understanding the inconsistent attitudes of some people on the matter. Sure, the statue is a monument to an entity that profited off of mass human exploitation. But, arguably, so is St. Peter's Basilica. Why is it that one needs to be torn down and thrown in the harbour but the other should be made a UNESCO World Heritage Site?

[Caracasus]

My house is older than that statue, you going to shout at me for taking out the chimney breast?

Honestly? I probably would, actually. At least if you were doing it for no real reason other than that you just 'didn't like it' or something like that. But then that's just me.

I'd say the main difference here is that, that statue was a publicly-owned artistic work, commissioned by the city of Bristol (I assume) and intended to serve as a piece of cultural history. In terms of historical merit, it is worth much more to society than your chimney breast. Besides, I don't disagree with the statue being taken down, I just don't agree with the way it was 'taken' down.

Ultimately though, I'm just having a hard time understanding the inconsistent attitudes of some people on the matter. Sure, the statue is a monument to an entity that profited off of mass human exploitation. But, arguably, so is St. Peter's Basilica. Why is it that one needs to be torn down and thrown in the harbour but the other should be made a UNESCO World Heritage Site?

Does St Peter's actively commemorate and attempt to whitewash the past of a man who profited off selling people as possessions? If you can prove it does, yeah rig up the TNT.

[The New California Republic]

My house is older than that statue, you going to shout at me for taking out the chimney breast?

And I bet they won't put it back up again.

[Caracasus]

My house is older than that statue, you going to shout at me for taking out the chimney breast?

And I bet they won't put it back up again.

Near where I used to live there was a guy who lived in this very old house. Not quite tudor but only a century or so off. Anyway, the local council finally got round to slapping a preservation order on it, but trouble was it was after he bought the place and before he had time to rip out and replace the astoundingly ugly 70's formica kitchen. He's probably stuck with it forever.

[Hellslayer]

In actual fact, very often police fear being attacked rather than dish out the violence. They sometimes have to go around in go about in groups to protect themselves from danger. People don't respect the police as much as they should, and then start asking the police to be kinder to them. Respect goes both ways, you know.

[Ors Might]

In actual fact, very often police fear being attacked rather than dish out the violence. They sometimes have to go around in go about in groups to protect themselves from danger. People don't respect the police as much as they should, and then start asking the police to be kinder to them. Respect goes both ways, you know.

If police want respect, they could start by not doing really fucking stupid shit like shooting people in wheel chairs and folks sitting on their porch with rubber bullets.

[SangMar]

In actual fact, very often police fear being attacked rather than dish out the violence. They sometimes have to go around in go about in groups to protect themselves from danger. People don't respect the police as much as they should, and then start asking the police to be kinder to them. Respect goes both ways, you know.

Laughs in London protests

Laughs harder at protesters in London getting pissed off because they think they’re American and therefore want the police to brutalise them, so that they they can post it on social media... but then it doesn’t even happen

[Velosia]

Does St Peter's actively commemorate and attempt to whitewash the past of a man who profited off selling people as possessions? If you can prove it does, yeah rig up the TNT.

Well, the Catholic Church was meant to serve as the 'entity' in this case, not St. Peter.

[Ifreann]

I really don't understand why people think that we need the police to prevent widespread violence from breaking out in the streets. The police are not only very obviously incapable of preventing that, they are very obviously responsible for that. Like I was telling one of our local fascists earlier, the police are not a force of nature. We invented them. We went millennia without them, with different kinds of community defence and law enforcement. We can invent something new to take their place.

Gormwood referenced the Purge. In the movie The First Purge, not to be confused with the first Purge movie, when they had the first Purge, people didn't go around slaughtering each other just because it was legal. But the government did hire mercenaries to go and murder poor people, especially minorities, because the whole point of the Purge is for the government of that setting to murder poor people and make money for the NRA and insurance industry. The Purge series is actually pretty progressive/liberal in its politics.

The reason we have police isn't just to enforce the law but also to protect rights. Mob justice will not be nearly as fair as you might imagine, it was the study of justice and the law are so prolific in this country.

Again, look at what is happening in America. People are trying to exercise their rights and the police are battering the shite out of them. A reporter was shot in the throat and a photojournalist was shot in the eye, incidents that show that if there is a God he has no sense of subtlety.

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https://imgur.com/gallery/HVO5lyE

Chauvin was involved in election fraud in 2016 and 2018....

So this is why the police keep talking about out of state agitators. That's what they do.

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In actual fact, very often police fear being attacked rather than dish out the violence. They sometimes have to go around in go about in groups to protect themselves from danger. People don't respect the police as much as they should, and then start asking the police to be kinder to them. Respect goes both ways, you know.

40% of police families suffer domestic violence, compared to 10% of the general population.

[Rojava Free State]

https://imgur.com/gallery/HVO5lyE

Chauvin was involved in election fraud in 2016 and 2018....

Derek Chauvin is literally the root of all evil. At this rate he probably also:

•Did 9/11
•Was the architect of the holocaust
•Shot John Kennedy
•Sank the Titanic
•Invented incels
•Lied to George Bush about there being WMDs in Iraq
•Smuggled conflict diamonds into the US
•Shot down Amelia Earhart's plane
•Helped run the Afrikaaner death camps
•Served as a general in Genghis Khan's army

[Rojava Free State]

In actual fact, very often police fear being attacked rather than dish out the violence. They sometimes have to go around in go about in groups to protect themselves from danger. People don't respect the police as much as they should, and then start asking the police to be kinder to them. Respect goes both ways, you know.

I'm sure they do fear being attacked. That happens when your job involves beating kids and punching women, like those cops in Indianapolis did.

[The Alma Mater]

https://imgur.com/gallery/HVO5lyE

Chauvin was involved in election fraud in 2016 and 2018....

Derek Chauvin is literally the root of all evil. At this rate he probably also:

•Did 9/11
•Was the architect of the holocaust
•Shot John Kennedy
•Sank the Titanic
•Invented incels
•Lied to George Bush about there being WMDs in Iraq
•Smuggled conflict diamonds into the US
•Shot down Amelia Earhart's plane
•Helped run the Afrikaaner death camps
•Served as a general in Genghis Khan's army

You forgot he killed Jesus because " that guy looked arab"

[Ors Might]

In actual fact, very often police fear being attacked rather than dish out the violence. They sometimes have to go around in go about in groups to protect themselves from danger. People don't respect the police as much as they should, and then start asking the police to be kinder to them. Respect goes both ways, you know.

I'm sure they do fear being attacked. That happens when you beat kids and punch women, like those cops in Indianapolis did.

For an organization that supposedly fears for their lives, they sure do seem determined to make as many enemies as physically possible.

[Rojava Free State]

Derek Chauvin is literally the root of all evil. At this rate he probably also:

•Did 9/11
•Was the architect of the holocaust
•Shot John Kennedy
•Sank the Titanic
•Invented incels
•Lied to George Bush about there being WMDs in Iraq
•Smuggled conflict diamonds into the US
•Shot down Amelia Earhart's plane
•Helped run the Afrikaaner death camps
•Served as a general in Genghis Khan's army

You forgot he killed Jesus because " that guy looked arab"

Derek Chauvin is Randall Flagg lmao

[Rojava Free State]

I'm sure they do fear being attacked. That happens when you beat kids and punch women, like those cops in Indianapolis did.

For an organization that supposedly fears for their lives, they sure do seem determined to make as many enemies as physically possible.

I dont see the link between cops fearing for their lives and them tasing two college students in Atlanta after smashing their car windows out.