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The Emerald Legion wrote:

Liriena wrote:Totally not an anti-Semitic dog-whistle.

This is why noone takes you serious when you talk about Dog Whistles.

The Emerald Legion wrote:

Liriena wrote:Totally not an anti-Semitic dog-whistle.

This is why noone takes you serious when you talk about Dog Whistles.

Liriena wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
This is why noone takes you serious when you talk about Dog Whistles.

Don't pluralize yourself, dude. It's cringe.

Fartsniffage wrote:

Liriena wrote:Don't pluralize yourself, dude. It's cringe.

I am also curious about what you are talking about?

Fartsniffage wrote:

Liriena wrote:Don't pluralize yourself, dude. It's cringe.

I am also curious about what you are talking about?

Liriena wrote:

Fartsniffage wrote:
I am also curious about what you are talking about?

Right-wingers have been trying to portray, with more or less subtlety, the entire BLM movement as being basically a massive astroturfing campaign financed by shady "Marxist" rich people and businesses. Which is par the course for right-wing projection. But their particular emphasis on Soros' involvement here is part of an ongoing pattern of right-wingers specifically demonizing the one Jewish billionaire who keeps donating to progressive causes, using his involvement as proof that not a single left-wing political movement is organic or sincere, but rather a product of Soros' puppetry from the shadows, often with the implication that said puppetry is part of a conspiracy against the West or white people. The specificity of choosing Soros as the primary source of all leftist evil makes sense when you consider that Soros is Jewish. It plays perfectly into that one age-old trope about who secretly controls the scary "Marxists".

The Emerald Legion wrote:

Liriena wrote:Right-wingers have been trying to portray, with more or less subtlety, the entire BLM movement as being basically a massive astroturfing campaign financed by shady "Marxist" rich people and businesses. Which is par the course for right-wing projection. But their particular emphasis on Soros' involvement here is part of an ongoing pattern of right-wingers specifically demonizing the one Jewish billionaire who keeps donating to progressive causes, using his involvement as proof that not a single left-wing political movement is organic or sincere, but rather a product of Soros' puppetry from the shadows, often with the implication that said puppetry is part of a conspiracy against the West or white people. The specificity of choosing Soros as the primary source of all leftist evil makes sense when you consider that Soros is Jewish. It plays perfectly into that one age-old trope about who secretly controls the scary "Marxists".

Except the thing is most anti-semites in the modern day are progressives.

You're the only ones who know these tropes, you're the only ones who make those connections.

Nobody is sitting back complaining about George Soros going 'Yes yes, HANZ, noone has caught on to our secret NAZI code!"

People complain about George Soros because he funds assholes who make the world a worse place so HE can get richer.

The Emerald Legion wrote:

Liriena wrote:Right-wingers have been trying to portray, with more or less subtlety, the entire BLM movement as being basically a massive astroturfing campaign financed by shady "Marxist" rich people and businesses. Which is par the course for right-wing projection. But their particular emphasis on Soros' involvement here is part of an ongoing pattern of right-wingers specifically demonizing the one Jewish billionaire who keeps donating to progressive causes, using his involvement as proof that not a single left-wing political movement is organic or sincere, but rather a product of Soros' puppetry from the shadows, often with the implication that said puppetry is part of a conspiracy against the West or white people. The specificity of choosing Soros as the primary source of all leftist evil makes sense when you consider that Soros is Jewish. It plays perfectly into that one age-old trope about who secretly controls the scary "Marxists".

Except the thing is most anti-semites in the modern day are progressives.

par the course for right-wing projection

You're the only ones who know these tropes, you're the only ones who make those connections. Nobody is sitting back complaining about George Soros going 'Yes yes, HANZ, noone has caught on to our secret NAZI code!"

People complain about George Soros because he funds assholes who make the world a worse place so HE can get richer.

The Emerald Legion wrote:
People complain about George Soros because he funds assholes who make the world a worse place so HE can get richer.

Necroghastia wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Except the thing is most anti-semites in the modern day are progressives.

lolwut? source plz

You're the only ones who know these tropes, you're the only ones who make those connections.

"By calling ME a racist it proves YOU'RE the REAL RACIST!!!"
it's called a dogwhistle for a reason my dude

Nobody is sitting back complaining about George Soros going 'Yes yes, HANZ, noone has caught on to our secret NAZI code!"

Well, duh, obviously. Usually, the name is spelled Hans.

People complain about George Soros because he funds assholes who make the world a worse place so HE can get richer.

Assholes like..?

The Emerald Legion wrote:

Liriena wrote:Right-wingers have been trying to portray, with more or less subtlety, the entire BLM movement as being basically a massive astroturfing campaign financed by shady "Marxist" rich people and businesses. Which is par the course for right-wing projection. But their particular emphasis on Soros' involvement here is part of an ongoing pattern of right-wingers specifically demonizing the one Jewish billionaire who keeps donating to progressive causes, using his involvement as proof that not a single left-wing political movement is organic or sincere, but rather a product of Soros' puppetry from the shadows, often with the implication that said puppetry is part of a conspiracy against the West or white people. The specificity of choosing Soros as the primary source of all leftist evil makes sense when you consider that Soros is Jewish. It plays perfectly into that one age-old trope about who secretly controls the scary "Marxists".

Except the thing is most anti-semites in the modern day are progressives. You're the only ones who know these tropes, you're the only ones who make those connections. Nobody is sitting back complaining about George Soros going 'Yes yes, HANZ, noone has caught on to our secret NAZI code!"

People complain about George Soros because he funds assholes who make the world a worse place so HE can get richer.

The Emerald Legion wrote:

Liriena wrote:Totally not an anti-Semitic dog-whistle.

This is why noone takes you serious when you talk about Dog Whistles.

Fahran wrote:

Ifreann wrote:But when the cops kill people without due process, this line is trotted out in their defence all the time.

And it's a non-sequitur argument. The justification for shooting a suspect should be limited to "he/she was putting other people in immediate threat of serious bodily harm or death." Their past record for drinking underage or robbing a convenience store is irrelevant to that decision.

The Emerald Legion wrote:

Liriena wrote:Right-wingers have been trying to portray, with more or less subtlety, the entire BLM movement as being basically a massive astroturfing campaign financed by shady "Marxist" rich people and businesses. Which is par the course for right-wing projection. But their particular emphasis on Soros' involvement here is part of an ongoing pattern of right-wingers specifically demonizing the one Jewish billionaire who keeps donating to progressive causes, using his involvement as proof that not a single left-wing political movement is organic or sincere, but rather a product of Soros' puppetry from the shadows, often with the implication that said puppetry is part of a conspiracy against the West or white people. The specificity of choosing Soros as the primary source of all leftist evil makes sense when you consider that Soros is Jewish. It plays perfectly into that one age-old trope about who secretly controls the scary "Marxists".

Except the thing is most anti-semites in the modern day are progressives. You're the only ones who know these tropes, you're the only ones who make those connections. Nobody is sitting back complaining about George Soros going 'Yes yes, HANZ, noone has caught on to our secret NAZI code!"

People complain about George Soros because he funds assholes who make the world a worse place so HE can get richer.

Necroghastia wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Except the thing is most anti-semites in the modern day are progressives.

lolwut? source plz

You're the only ones who know these tropes, you're the only ones who make those connections.

"By calling ME a racist it proves YOU'RE the REAL RACIST!!!"
it's called a dogwhistle for a reason my dude

Nobody is sitting back complaining about George Soros going 'Yes yes, HANZ, noone has caught on to our secret NAZI code!"

Well, duh, obviously. Usually, the name is spelled Hans.

People complain about George Soros because he funds assholes who make the world a worse place so HE can get richer.

Assholes like..?

Ifreann wrote:The real anti-Semites are the people who notice anti-Semitism.

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Well yes. When you explicitly explain the ways in which my words that weren't meant that way are in fact some kind of secret racist code, it means you spend a lot of time thinking about how things could be secretly racist,

which implies that racism takes up a lot of your thoughts.

Trying to fight or call out dogwhistling is stupid. The whole 'idea' if you can call it that of dogwhistling means fighting it just makes you look like an idiot crazy person. It's a 'dog whistle' because it's an otherwise innocuous term used with secret meaning. Calling out that secret meaning doesn't erase the innocuous meanings. If a bunch of secret nazis use "It's time to go." as a secret call sign for "Let's go murder minorities." It doesn't mean other people aren't using it to say it's time to go. Meaning you flipping your shit over the innocuous cover that causes people to use it as a dogwhistle, assuming they do actually use it as a dogwhistle and it's not just a cover to allow for policing speech, just makes the people using an utterly innocuous phrase look at you like you're a psycho.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_projects_supported_by_George_Soros

Necroghastia wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Well yes. When you explicitly explain the ways in which my words that weren't meant that way are in fact some kind of secret racist code, it means you spend a lot of time thinking about how things could be secretly racist,

Or, y'know, you're making the same shit point that has been a shit point for years now, and because it's a shit pint that's been made for years you've had time to connect the dots.

which implies that racism takes up a lot of your thoughts.

It's almost as though there's a lot of racial tension in today's society and awareness of that fact is something you'd expect any socially-conscious person to have.

Trying to fight or call out dogwhistling is stupid. The whole 'idea' if you can call it that of dogwhistling means fighting it just makes you look like an idiot crazy person. It's a 'dog whistle' because it's an otherwise innocuous term used with secret meaning. Calling out that secret meaning doesn't erase the innocuous meanings. If a bunch of secret nazis use "It's time to go." as a secret call sign for "Let's go murder minorities." It doesn't mean other people aren't using it to say it's time to go. Meaning you flipping your shit over the innocuous cover that causes people to use it as a dogwhistle, assuming they do actually use it as a dogwhistle and it's not just a cover to allow for policing speech, just makes the people using an utterly innocuous phrase look at you like you're a psycho.

You've heard of context clues, yes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_projects_supported_by_George_Soros

I'm not seeing a whole lot of assholes he's funding just to enrich himself and make the world worse. Ohhh no, wait, those dastardly villains WikiMedia, can't have that!

Solvokina wrote:Honestly still surprised this cesspool of a thread is still ongoing, honestly forgot protests and riots are in the USA

Valrifell wrote:

Ifreann wrote:The real anti-Semites are the people who notice anti-Semitism.

The real anti-Semites were the friends we made along the way.

Solvokina wrote:Honestly still surprised this cesspool of a thread is still ongoing, honestly forgot protests and riots are in the USA

The Emerald Legion wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:Or, y'know, you're making the same shit point that has been a shit point for years now, and because it's a shit pint that's been made for years you've had time to connect the dots.

It's almost as though there's a lot of racial tension in today's society and awareness of that fact is something you'd expect any socially-conscious person to have.

You've heard of context clues, yes?

I'm not seeing a whole lot of assholes he's funding just to enrich himself and make the world worse. Ohhh no, wait, those dastardly villains WikiMedia, can't have that!

"Context Clues" says the man

trying to justify witchhunts over innocent phrasing

because of potentially imaginary dogwhistles

who seem to only ever justify lashing out at his

political opponents.

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:

Solvokina wrote:Honestly still surprised this cesspool of a thread is still ongoing, honestly forgot protests and riots are in the USA

If only the US had pubs instead of bars, they could have a punch-up outside the pub every Friday night and there'd be no need for that rioting. It's more economically rational to get satisfaction losing brain-cells, than burning down property. Brain-cells are never insured for one thing.

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:

Solvokina wrote:Honestly still surprised this cesspool of a thread is still ongoing, honestly forgot protests and riots are in the USA

If only the US had pubs instead of bars, they could have a punch-up outside the pub every Friday night and there'd be no need for that rioting. It's more economically rational to get satisfaction losing brain-cells, than burning down property. Brain-cells are never insured for one thing.