US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread II

[Liriena]

Totally not an anti-Semitic dog-whistle.

This is why noone takes you serious when you talk about Dog Whistles.

Don't pluralize yourself, dude. It's cringe.

[Vassenor]

Totally not an anti-Semitic dog-whistle.

This is why noone takes you serious when you talk about Dog Whistles.

So what is the relevance to bringing up Soros then?

[Fartsniffage]

This is why noone takes you serious when you talk about Dog Whistles.

Don't pluralize yourself, dude. It's cringe.

I am also curious about what you are talking about?

[Kowani]

Don't pluralize yourself, dude. It's cringe.

I am also curious about what you are talking about?

"George Soros" is a Hungarian Jewish Billionaire whose philanthropy (towards the left) has made him the cause of far too many right-wing conspiracy theories. He's also often used as a stand-in for "greedy, manipulative shadowy Jew."

[Liriena]

Don't pluralize yourself, dude. It's cringe.

I am also curious about what you are talking about?

Right-wingers have been trying to portray, with more or less subtlety, the entire BLM movement as being basically a massive astroturfing campaign financed by shady "Marxist" rich people and businesses. Which is par the course for right-wing projection. But their particular emphasis on Soros' involvement here is part of an ongoing pattern of right-wingers specifically demonizing the one Jewish billionaire who keeps donating to progressive causes, using his involvement as proof that not a single left-wing political movement is organic or sincere, but rather a product of Soros' puppetry from the shadows, often with the implication that said puppetry is part of a conspiracy against the West or white people. The specificity of choosing Soros as the primary source of all leftist evil makes sense when you consider that Soros is Jewish. It plays perfectly into that one age-old trope about who secretly controls the scary "Marxists".

[The Emerald Legion]

I am also curious about what you are talking about?

Right-wingers have been trying to portray, with more or less subtlety, the entire BLM movement as being basically a massive astroturfing campaign financed by shady "Marxist" rich people and businesses. Which is par the course for right-wing projection. But their particular emphasis on Soros' involvement here is part of an ongoing pattern of right-wingers specifically demonizing the one Jewish billionaire who keeps donating to progressive causes, using his involvement as proof that not a single left-wing political movement is organic or sincere, but rather a product of Soros' puppetry from the shadows, often with the implication that said puppetry is part of a conspiracy against the West or white people. The specificity of choosing Soros as the primary source of all leftist evil makes sense when you consider that Soros is Jewish. It plays perfectly into that one age-old trope about who secretly controls the scary "Marxists".

Except the thing is most anti-semites in the modern day are progressives. You're the only ones who know these tropes, you're the only ones who make those connections. Nobody is sitting back complaining about George Soros going 'Yes yes, HANZ, noone has caught on to our secret NAZI code!"

People complain about George Soros because he funds assholes who make the world a worse place so HE can get richer.

[Necroghastia]

Right-wingers have been trying to portray, with more or less subtlety, the entire BLM movement as being basically a massive astroturfing campaign financed by shady "Marxist" rich people and businesses. Which is par the course for right-wing projection. But their particular emphasis on Soros' involvement here is part of an ongoing pattern of right-wingers specifically demonizing the one Jewish billionaire who keeps donating to progressive causes, using his involvement as proof that not a single left-wing political movement is organic or sincere, but rather a product of Soros' puppetry from the shadows, often with the implication that said puppetry is part of a conspiracy against the West or white people. The specificity of choosing Soros as the primary source of all leftist evil makes sense when you consider that Soros is Jewish. It plays perfectly into that one age-old trope about who secretly controls the scary "Marxists".

Except the thing is most anti-semites in the modern day are progressives.

lolwut? source plz

You're the only ones who know these tropes, you're the only ones who make those connections.

"By calling ME a racist it proves YOU'RE the REAL RACIST!!!"
it's called a dogwhistle for a reason my dude

Nobody is sitting back complaining about George Soros going 'Yes yes, HANZ, noone has caught on to our secret NAZI code!"

Well, duh, obviously. Usually, the name is spelled Hans.

People complain about George Soros because he funds assholes who make the world a worse place so HE can get richer.

Assholes like..?

[Liriena]

Right-wingers have been trying to portray, with more or less subtlety, the entire BLM movement as being basically a massive astroturfing campaign financed by shady "Marxist" rich people and businesses. Which is par the course for right-wing projection. But their particular emphasis on Soros' involvement here is part of an ongoing pattern of right-wingers specifically demonizing the one Jewish billionaire who keeps donating to progressive causes, using his involvement as proof that not a single left-wing political movement is organic or sincere, but rather a product of Soros' puppetry from the shadows, often with the implication that said puppetry is part of a conspiracy against the West or white people. The specificity of choosing Soros as the primary source of all leftist evil makes sense when you consider that Soros is Jewish. It plays perfectly into that one age-old trope about who secretly controls the scary "Marxists".

Except the thing is most anti-semites in the modern day are progressives.

As I was saying:

par the course for right-wing projection

You're the only ones who know these tropes, you're the only ones who make those connections. Nobody is sitting back complaining about George Soros going 'Yes yes, HANZ, noone has caught on to our secret NAZI code!"

Do you think that anti-Semitism begins and ends with literal open nazism?

People complain about George Soros because he funds assholes who make the world a worse place so HE can get richer.

And what makes him specially reprehensible or noteworthy to you, exactly? Because, if we're talking about causing harm to the world, Soros' political donations haven't really had the devastating global impact that, say, the Kochs have had with their massive astroturfing for climate change denialism.

And if the problem with Soros donates to progressives... why is that an issue with him specifically? Lots of billionaires and millionaires donate to progressive causes. So why is Soros noteworthy in that regard?

[Vassenor]

Guess my Soros-Clinton checks must have gotten lost in the post.

[Kowani]

People complain about George Soros because he funds assholes who make the world a worse place so HE can get richer.

Let's think really hard for a second here. The only way Soros is getting richer will be tax cuts or investments in his shit.
None of the things which he donates to propose any of that.

[Liriena]

Except the thing is most anti-semites in the modern day are progressives.

lolwut? source plz

You're the only ones who know these tropes, you're the only ones who make those connections.

"By calling ME a racist it proves YOU'RE the REAL RACIST!!!"
it's called a dogwhistle for a reason my dude

Nobody is sitting back complaining about George Soros going 'Yes yes, HANZ, noone has caught on to our secret NAZI code!"

Well, duh, obviously. Usually, the name is spelled Hans.

People complain about George Soros because he funds assholes who make the world a worse place so HE can get richer.

Assholes like..?

I must say, The Emerald Legion reheating the stale old trope of "he who smelt it dealt it" for racism really brought me back to the Obama years.

[Gravlen]

Right-wingers have been trying to portray, with more or less subtlety, the entire BLM movement as being basically a massive astroturfing campaign financed by shady "Marxist" rich people and businesses. Which is par the course for right-wing projection. But their particular emphasis on Soros' involvement here is part of an ongoing pattern of right-wingers specifically demonizing the one Jewish billionaire who keeps donating to progressive causes, using his involvement as proof that not a single left-wing political movement is organic or sincere, but rather a product of Soros' puppetry from the shadows, often with the implication that said puppetry is part of a conspiracy against the West or white people. The specificity of choosing Soros as the primary source of all leftist evil makes sense when you consider that Soros is Jewish. It plays perfectly into that one age-old trope about who secretly controls the scary "Marxists".

Except the thing is most anti-semites in the modern day are progressives. You're the only ones who know these tropes, you're the only ones who make those connections. Nobody is sitting back complaining about George Soros going 'Yes yes, HANZ, noone has caught on to our secret NAZI code!"

People complain about George Soros because he funds assholes who make the world a worse place so HE can get richer.

How is he getting richer by, as Donald Trump said without any evidence, paying migrants to illegally enter the US?

[Gravlen]

Totally not an anti-Semitic dog-whistle.

This is why noone takes you serious when you talk about Dog Whistles.

Actually, everyone is saying he's right about this Dog Whistle.

[Ifreann]

But when the cops kill people without due process, this line is trotted out in their defence all the time.

And it's a non-sequitur argument. The justification for shooting a suspect should be limited to "he/she was putting other people in immediate threat of serious bodily harm or death." Their past record for drinking underage or robbing a convenience store is irrelevant to that decision.

And yet it always comes up.

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Right-wingers have been trying to portray, with more or less subtlety, the entire BLM movement as being basically a massive astroturfing campaign financed by shady "Marxist" rich people and businesses. Which is par the course for right-wing projection. But their particular emphasis on Soros' involvement here is part of an ongoing pattern of right-wingers specifically demonizing the one Jewish billionaire who keeps donating to progressive causes, using his involvement as proof that not a single left-wing political movement is organic or sincere, but rather a product of Soros' puppetry from the shadows, often with the implication that said puppetry is part of a conspiracy against the West or white people. The specificity of choosing Soros as the primary source of all leftist evil makes sense when you consider that Soros is Jewish. It plays perfectly into that one age-old trope about who secretly controls the scary "Marxists".

Except the thing is most anti-semites in the modern day are progressives. You're the only ones who know these tropes, you're the only ones who make those connections. Nobody is sitting back complaining about George Soros going 'Yes yes, HANZ, noone has caught on to our secret NAZI code!"

People complain about George Soros because he funds assholes who make the world a worse place so HE can get richer.

The real anti-Semites are the people who notice anti-Semitism.

[The Emerald Legion]

Except the thing is most anti-semites in the modern day are progressives.

lolwut? source plz

You're the only ones who know these tropes, you're the only ones who make those connections.

"By calling ME a racist it proves YOU'RE the REAL RACIST!!!"
it's called a dogwhistle for a reason my dude

Nobody is sitting back complaining about George Soros going 'Yes yes, HANZ, noone has caught on to our secret NAZI code!"

Well, duh, obviously. Usually, the name is spelled Hans.

People complain about George Soros because he funds assholes who make the world a worse place so HE can get richer.

Assholes like..?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemit ... 005_survey Admittedly not perfect, because it separates based on race rather than ideology, which is annoying, and I can't find anything better on short notice. I'll cede the point for now.

Well yes. When you explicitly explain the ways in which my words that weren't meant that way are in fact some kind of secret racist code, it means you spend a lot of time thinking about how things could be secretly racist, which implies that racism takes up a lot of your thoughts.

Trying to fight or call out dogwhistling is stupid. The whole 'idea' if you can call it that of dogwhistling means fighting it just makes you look like an idiot crazy person. It's a 'dog whistle' because it's an otherwise innocuous term used with secret meaning. Calling out that secret meaning doesn't erase the innocuous meanings. If a bunch of secret nazis use "It's time to go." as a secret call sign for "Let's go murder minorities." It doesn't mean other people aren't using it to say it's time to go. Meaning you flipping your shit over the innocuous cover that causes people to use it as a dogwhistle, assuming they do actually use it as a dogwhistle and it's not just a cover to allow for policing speech, just makes the people using an utterly innocuous phrase look at you like you're a psycho.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... orge_Soros

[Valrifell]

The real anti-Semites are the people who notice anti-Semitism.

The real anti-Semites were the friends we made along the way.

[Necroghastia]

Well yes. When you explicitly explain the ways in which my words that weren't meant that way are in fact some kind of secret racist code, it means you spend a lot of time thinking about how things could be secretly racist,

Or, y'know, you're making the same shit point that has been a shit point for years now, and because it's a shit pint that's been made for years you've had time to connect the dots.

which implies that racism takes up a lot of your thoughts.

It's almost as though there's a lot of racial tension in today's society and awareness of that fact is something you'd expect any socially-conscious person to have.

Trying to fight or call out dogwhistling is stupid. The whole 'idea' if you can call it that of dogwhistling means fighting it just makes you look like an idiot crazy person. It's a 'dog whistle' because it's an otherwise innocuous term used with secret meaning. Calling out that secret meaning doesn't erase the innocuous meanings. If a bunch of secret nazis use "It's time to go." as a secret call sign for "Let's go murder minorities." It doesn't mean other people aren't using it to say it's time to go. Meaning you flipping your shit over the innocuous cover that causes people to use it as a dogwhistle, assuming they do actually use it as a dogwhistle and it's not just a cover to allow for policing speech, just makes the people using an utterly innocuous phrase look at you like you're a psycho.

You've heard of context clues, yes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_projects_supported_by_George_Soros

I'm not seeing a whole lot of assholes he's funding just to enrich himself and make the world worse. Ohhh no, wait, those dastardly villains WikiMedia, can't have that!

[The Emerald Legion]

Well yes. When you explicitly explain the ways in which my words that weren't meant that way are in fact some kind of secret racist code, it means you spend a lot of time thinking about how things could be secretly racist,

Or, y'know, you're making the same shit point that has been a shit point for years now, and because it's a shit pint that's been made for years you've had time to connect the dots.

which implies that racism takes up a lot of your thoughts.

It's almost as though there's a lot of racial tension in today's society and awareness of that fact is something you'd expect any socially-conscious person to have.

Trying to fight or call out dogwhistling is stupid. The whole 'idea' if you can call it that of dogwhistling means fighting it just makes you look like an idiot crazy person. It's a 'dog whistle' because it's an otherwise innocuous term used with secret meaning. Calling out that secret meaning doesn't erase the innocuous meanings. If a bunch of secret nazis use "It's time to go." as a secret call sign for "Let's go murder minorities." It doesn't mean other people aren't using it to say it's time to go. Meaning you flipping your shit over the innocuous cover that causes people to use it as a dogwhistle, assuming they do actually use it as a dogwhistle and it's not just a cover to allow for policing speech, just makes the people using an utterly innocuous phrase look at you like you're a psycho.

You've heard of context clues, yes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_projects_supported_by_George_Soros

I'm not seeing a whole lot of assholes he's funding just to enrich himself and make the world worse. Ohhh no, wait, those dastardly villains WikiMedia, can't have that!

"Context Clues" says the man trying to justify witchhunts over innocent phrasing because of potentially imaginary dogwhistles who seem to only ever justify lashing out at his political opponents.

[Solvokina]

Honestly still surprised this cesspool of a thread is still ongoing, honestly forgot protests and riots are in the USA

[Gig em Aggies]

Honestly still surprised this cesspool of a thread is still ongoing, honestly forgot protests and riots are in the USA

well that's the NS community for ya

[Fahran]

The real anti-Semites are the people who notice anti-Semitism.

The real anti-Semites were the friends we made along the way.

I hate how accurate this is. :^)

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Honestly still surprised this cesspool of a thread is still ongoing, honestly forgot protests and riots are in the USA

If only the US had pubs instead of bars, they could have a punch-up outside the pub every Friday night and there'd be no need for that rioting. It's more economically rational to get satisfaction losing brain-cells, than burning down property. Brain-cells are never insured for one thing.

[Necroghastia]

Or, y'know, you're making the same shit point that has been a shit point for years now, and because it's a shit pint that's been made for years you've had time to connect the dots.

It's almost as though there's a lot of racial tension in today's society and awareness of that fact is something you'd expect any socially-conscious person to have.

You've heard of context clues, yes?

I'm not seeing a whole lot of assholes he's funding just to enrich himself and make the world worse. Ohhh no, wait, those dastardly villains WikiMedia, can't have that!

"Context Clues" says the man

Who?

trying to justify witchhunts over innocent phrasing

"Innocent phrasing" like...?

because of potentially imaginary dogwhistles

"potentially imaginary"
So you admit that people might actually know what they're talking about.

who seem to only ever justify lashing out at his

Whose?

political opponents.

It's almost as if I'm opposed to bigotry. What a novel concept.

[Solvokina]

Honestly still surprised this cesspool of a thread is still ongoing, honestly forgot protests and riots are in the USA

If only the US had pubs instead of bars, they could have a punch-up outside the pub every Friday night and there'd be no need for that rioting. It's more economically rational to get satisfaction losing brain-cells, than burning down property. Brain-cells are never insured for one thing.

Not a bad idea

[Kowani]

Honestly still surprised this cesspool of a thread is still ongoing, honestly forgot protests and riots are in the USA

If only the US had pubs instead of bars, they could have a punch-up outside the pub every Friday night and there'd be no need for that rioting. It's more economically rational to get satisfaction losing brain-cells, than burning down property. Brain-cells are never insured for one thing.

Or we could burn down the pubs.