US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread II

[Liriena]

They could establish a relationship with the community and gain their trust but why do that when you can be on a power trip and get away with almost anything because your fellow officers will always back you up and when your criticized or have regulations or oversight placed on you act like a spoiled child and stop doing your job as effectively.

Yes, because convincing people who hate you for no legitimate reason

Awww, look at you, telling dirty fucking lies.

[Liriena]

Have you considered that mistreating the community and acting above the law for decades has made people not trust them?

but if you take away the police you will still have people being assholes to each other the only difference is that you don't have a convenient scapegoat to go to.

"People will kill people anyway so why bother doing anything about the people who get paid to prevent it but somehow keep doing the exact opposite?"

Now that's what I call a nuclear winter of a take.

[Liriena]

The Rochester Police Chief and his entire command staff has rage quit.

The chief and entire command staff of the police department in Rochester, New York, resigned on Tuesday — among other department changes — as outrage continued over the death of Daniel Prude, a Black man with mental health issues who died after having been put in a "spit hood" and restrained by officers in March.

Chief La'Ron Singletary announced that he would be retiring after 20 years on the force, according to a news release from the department. Singletary said the events of the past week "are an attempt to destroy my character and integrity."

By describing his departure as a retirement, and filing his retirement papers, the chief and the other officers will be able to draw on their pension and health benefits.

"The members of the Rochester Police Department and the Greater Rochester Community know my reputation and know what I stand for," Singletary, 40, said in his resignation letter. "The mischaracterization and the politicization of the actions that I took after being informed of Mr. Prude's death is not based on facts, and is not what I stand for."

Deputy Chief Joseph Morabito and Commander Fabian Rivera also announced their retirements Tuesday. Two other high ranking officials, Deputy Chief Mark Simmons and Commander Henry Favor, returned to a lower ranking of lieutenant.

Fucking pissbabies.

[Liriena]

Have you considered that mistreating the community and acting above the law for decades has made people not trust them?

Have you considered that most people act above the law constantly? Marijuana is still illegal but so many people do it that finding non-users who aren't over 50 is near impossible. Speed limits are 55 but most people are closer to 70, If not 90.

In the end, people are just pissy because they aren't above the law.

This is a hell of a deflection.

[Greed and Death]

The Rochester Police Chief and his entire command staff has rage quit.

Fucking pissbabies.

Entire force has quite the Mayor has been forced to allow militias to take over policing duties.

I am kidding

[Valrifell]

The Rochester Police Chief and his entire command staff has rage quit.

Fucking pissbabies.

Iunno feels like with the house now cleaned we can do something about it

[Liriena]

Fucking pissbabies.

Iunno feels like with the house now cleaned we can do something about it

Oh definitely. I'm just in awe of how police keep trying to play the victim when they do something wrong.

[Valrifell]

Iunno feels like with the house now cleaned we can do something about it

Oh definitely. I'm just in awe of how police keep trying to play the victim when they do something wrong.

Very childish that at the first sign of bad press/criticism a lot of the top brass is simply quitting, that's not very good leadership.

[The Lone Alliance]

Totally not people angry about what the cops did. They all are just retarded criminals.

Unfortunately because many people in power have your view, things won't change. People still don't understand why folks are so mad.

The rioters in Kenosha were retarded criminals, they completely fucked everything up for BLM.

That's a good enough reason to be pissed with them. And it's quite clear that most of them didn't give a damn about what the cops did.
Yeah I'm sure that the child rapist shouting the N word that the stupid militia kid shot was really there because he cared about BLM.

In fact now I'm beginning to suspect that the governor wanted things in Kenosha to get so bad so that they could be used to discredit BLM.

In which case that's a second reason to tell the Governor to go fuck himself.

You seem to believe that people are incapable of being angry without smashing innocent people's stuff, quite a few of the BLM protests have proven that narrative wrong.

My view is that we as Americans have a culture of distrust and outright hate for Authority figures.

It's quite part of American culture to say "Fuck you I'll do what I want".
That's one reason the world gets very annoyed with the US at times.

But the thing is most of the people who live in the US know this fact, including the cops.

Hell EVEN THE COPS DO IT.

Oh definitely. I'm just in awe of how police keep trying to play the victim when they do something wrong.

Very childish that at the first sign of bad press/criticism a lot of the top brass is simply quitting, that's not very good leadership.

Actually from what I heard resigning actually causes the people doing the investigation to drop the investigation in some states.
So basically they're quitting their job to stop the investigation.

Can't really investigate a cop if they aren't a cop anymore.

[Loben III]

Yes, because convincing people who hate you for no legitimate reason

Awww, look at you, telling dirty fucking lies.

where is the lie?

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Awww, look at you, telling dirty fucking lies.

where is the lie?

Where is the truth?

[Insaanistan]

where is the lie?

Where is the truth?

When it hasn’t been spoken?

[Saiwania]

The police usually embody all that I like about an authoritarian state: the uniforms, the equipment, the emphasis on order and force. But I think it is perhaps time for the broader political Right in the US to consider turning against law enforcement in sentiment. When you think about it, they're going to be the Gun Grabbers, especially if Biden gets in.

The Boogaloo movement might become the next big thing, I see a brighter future for it if the legal system keeps losing legitimacy in the public sphere. Which I suspect is going to be the case if there are many more incidents which this year has been full of. Trump is actually getting behind a losing message in choosing to side with grunt enforcers who take too much of tax money and resources to begin with, and already enjoy too many advantages.

[Grinning Dragon]

The police usually embody all that I like about an authoritarian state: the uniforms, the equipment, the emphasis on order and force. But I think it is perhaps time for the broader political Right in the US to consider turning against law enforcement in sentiment. When you think about it, they're going to be the Gun Grabbers, especially if Biden gets in.

The Boogaloo movement might become the next big thing, I see a brighter future for it if the legal system keeps losing legitimacy in the public sphere. Which I suspect is going to be the case if there are many more incidents which this year has been full of. Trump is actually getting behind a losing message in choosing to side with grunt enforcers who take too much of tax money and resources and begin with, and already enjoy too many advantages.

The underlined amused me and provided a much needed hardy laugh.

[Kowani]

Arizona police officer holds black hotel worker at gunpoint while searching for white suspect

[Shazbotdom]

Arizona police officer holds black hotel worker at gunpoint while searching for white suspect

What.
The.
Actual.
Fuck?

[Fartsniffage]

Arizona police officer holds black hotel worker at gunpoint while searching for white suspect

Not available in Europe.

[Gravlen]

Arizona police officer holds black hotel worker at gunpoint while searching for white suspect

Not available in Europe.

But you're not in Europe after Brexit??

TEMPE, Ariz. — Tempe police have put an officer who held a Black hotel employee at gunpoint while he was supposed to be looking for a white suspect into an "administrative role," the police department announced Thursday.

That same officer was involved in the controversial tasing of a Black man last year, a department spokesperson acknowledged.

On Aug. 29, Tempe police officers responded to a call from Hawthorn Suites about a suspect who allegedly held a gun to an employee of the hotel.

Officer Ronald Kerzaya was one of the responding officers and listened to the manager's description of the suspect, which included that he was a Caucasian male wearing a black shirt and white pants, police said.

The manager, who was looking at surveillance video, told Officer Kerzaya he believed the suspect would be going through a certain exit outside. The body-camera video shows the officer going out to that door with his gun drawn.

The door opens and an African-American male, who identified himself as an employee named Tre, stepped outside.

Kerzaya held the man at gunpoint until he could prove employment, Tempe Police Department said. The body camera video shows he held Tre for just more than 2 minutes.

The armed suspect from the initial call was not located.

Retired Phoenix Police officer and law enforcement expert Andy Anderson explained why he thinks the officer might have had his gun drawn.

"As he’s leaving that office he’s been told this individual is on the move and is coming out that exit. So, he’s pulled his gun and he is ready, and anybody that comes out that exit is going to have a gun pointed at them because he fully expects that to be the individual with the gun."

Anderson said there aren't any set rules about when an officer should pull his or her gun; it's all dependent on circumstances.

"I can understand him having that gun out being prepared," Anderson said. "Doesn’t necessarily mean you have to point it at anybody."

As for mistaking the hotel employee as a suspect, Anderson said it seemed like the officer's frustration got the better of him.

"We can always second-guess and look things over and run that video and slow down and stop it, but at the time but you’ve got to make a decision based on what the officer knows at that time and they might be wrong," Anderson explained.

In their statement, the Tempe Police Department stated:

"Our initial review indicates that this incident was not handled in accordance with the professionalism and respectful behavior that we, and the public, have for our officers."

Chief Sylvia Moir of the Tempe Police Department said she has personally spoken with the hotel employees due to the concerning nature of the incident.

Mayor Corey Woods said in a statement on the matter:

"While the matter is under investigation and we will await the outcome of that examination, from our early review of the body camera footage, the Officer’s actions were not a demonstration of the quality of service or treatment of people that Tempe seeks to, can and must provide. The fact that no one was injured is a great relief, but that does little to reduce the dissatisfaction with this incident.

City Manager, Andrew Ching, and I have been reviewing this and other recent incidents closely as we continue to formulate the City’s plans to address these challenges. In this instance, I have spoken several times to the hotel manager and the employee who was wrongly identified as the suspect who prompted the original call for service. We all can imagine the horrible feelings—the humiliation and fear—that the employee felt during the incident and since."

Tempe Police say Officer Kerzaya has been with the force for 4 years. Prior to this, they say he has no use of force violations. They also confirm he was involved in a June 2019 incident where a man holding a baby was tased by officer, including Kerzaya. An internal investigation in that case found no wrong-doing, but the family is still fighting that in court.

[Fartsniffage]

But you're not in Europe after Brexit??

Fuck you. Stop rubbing it in.

Still have to follow the rules until the end of the year.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

My patience wears thin with customers at my job all the time. Guess what will happen if I go outside, drag one of them out of their cars and Reginald Denny their ass.

I really don't see the problem with The Emerald Legion's argument, tbh. It makes perfect sense to me to make cops the one and only profession in the whole world that we allow to abuse and kill its "customers" if the "customers" get on their nerves.

Cops shouldn't be able to kill people just for annoying them.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Arizona police officer holds black hotel worker at gunpoint while searching for white suspect

Uh oh retard alert. Retard alert

[Gravlen]

But you're not in Europe after Brexit??

Fuck you. Stop rubbing it in.

Still have to follow the rules until the end of the year.

Don't worry, you can always break the rules in a specific and limited way. I hear that's encouraged these days

[Fartsniffage]

I really don't see the problem with The Emerald Legion's argument, tbh. It makes perfect sense to me to make cops the one and only profession in the whole world that we allow to abuse and kill its "customers" if the "customers" get on their nerves.

Cops shouldn't be able to kill people just for annoying them.

I disagree. All workers should be able to kill customers who annoy them. A society pervaded by the constant threat of death for being rude is a polite society. Or so 2nd Amendment types have said in the past.

[Valrifell]

Arizona police officer holds black hotel worker at gunpoint while searching for white suspect

Uh oh retard alert. Retard alert

Please don't say that.

[Cordel One]

It's weird seeing people worship the Hong Kong protests and riots while (rightfully) demonizing their cops for brutality, but when they're in the United States it's always some shit like "The victim got a speeding ticket 6 years ago", "Why can't they just protest peacefully", "not all cops", etc.