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Are the police racist?

Yes
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No
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Postby Giovenith » Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:31 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
OK, so how does that make shooting his son seven times in the back OK?


Well, antisemites are Nazis and not only should people punch Nazis, but they should kill them too :^)


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Postby Fahran » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:10 pm

Galloism wrote:What this guy said.

When these events happen, what matters is what happened in the moment. Were the actions justified right then.

"Victim's father said bad shit about the jews" doesn't matter.

I do think this is a bit of tit-for-tat given the reaction to the RNC for inviting a woman whose police officer son died due to a drunk driver colliding with his vehicle. I'm not certain them being Antisemitic is necessarily a problem so long as you're not talking to them about Jewish people. If they're advocating for additional protections for police or for additional accountability for police, I think having them around might be useful given their personal experiences.

Liriena wrote:why are you so obsessed with finding any excuse, no matter how irrelevant, to justify shooting someone in the back seven times? do you like guilt-free snuff or something?

I mean, if the KPPA's statement isn't a grotesque exaggeration or an outright lie, I can see why the officers would believe the shooting was justified in that moment. A perpetrator with a history of domestic violence and sexual assault resisting arrest and assaulting officers seems almost universally to warrant a shooting if other tactics fail to diffuse the situation. And they hadn't even interviewed the witnesses who were present when this occurred so they had no real idea what was happening.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:11 pm

Okay, I’ve got more

Discrimination causing
Mass incarceration
Throughout the nation
In modern-day plantations
Blacks and Latinos doing hard time for non-violent crimes that would get white people no more than a fine
I think it’s high time for our prison system to finally be redesigned
Won’t give our youth jobs so they join gangs
They can be doing nothing and the officer’ll pull out his gun
Bang Bang
Life taken
Lives skaken
Nothin’ changin’
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:16 pm

Insaanistan wrote:Okay, I’ve got more

Discrimination causing
Mass incarceration
Throughout the nation
In modern-day plantations
Blacks and Latinos doing hard time for non-violent crimes that would get white people no more than a fine
I think it’s high time for our prison system to finally be redesigned
Won’t give our youth jobs so they join gangs
They can be doing nothing and the officer’ll pull out his gun
Bang Bang
Life taken
Lives skaken
Nothin’ changin’


Come on now we don't get fined we get a warning. And when we do legalize it we open up pot shops and get rich.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:19 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Okay, I’ve got more

Discrimination causing
Mass incarceration
Throughout the nation
In modern-day plantations
Blacks and Latinos doing hard time for non-violent crimes that would get white people no more than a fine
I think it’s high time for our prison system to finally be redesigned
Won’t give our youth jobs so they join gangs
They can be doing nothing and the officer’ll pull out his gun
Bang Bang
Life taken
Lives skaken
Nothin’ changin’


Come on now we don't get fined we get a warning. And when we do legalize it we open up pot shops and get rich.


Well, I had to make it rhyme! :p
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Postby Fahran » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:20 pm

Greed and Death wrote:Come on now we don't get fined we get a warning. And when we do legalize it we open up pot shops and get rich.

:roll: :lol: This is not a good thing.

Insaanistan wrote:Well, I had to make it rhyme! :p

Hey, I liked it.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:11 pm

Fahran wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:Come on now we don't get fined we get a warning. And when we do legalize it we open up pot shops and get rich.

:roll: :lol: This is not a good thing.

Insaanistan wrote:Well, I had to make it rhyme! :p

Hey, I liked it.


That’s good! I was afraid I was just embarrassing myself.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:18 pm

Insaanistan wrote:Video of Black man Daniel Prude killed by police in Rochester months ago released. Prude’s brother called police because his brother was having a mental breakdown. When officers arrived, they handcuffed the naked man in the snow, and put a hood over his head. He died seven days later. The officers involved have now been suspended with pay, but many are wondering why it took six months for that to happen.

Biden visits Kenosha, but unlike Trump, he met with Jacob Blake’s family.

Did Blake's family want Trump to visit?
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:23 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Video of Black man Daniel Prude killed by police in Rochester months ago released. Prude’s brother called police because his brother was having a mental breakdown. When officers arrived, they handcuffed the naked man in the snow, and put a hood over his head. He died seven days later. The officers involved have now been suspended with pay, but many are wondering why it took six months for that to happen.

Biden visits Kenosha, but unlike Trump, he met with Jacob Blake’s family.

Did Blake's family want Trump to visit?

I'm not sure I think it was the media that stated the family didn't want him to visit but then after that I think the father or mother said they weren't interested in him visiting. They didn't even say they wanted Biden to visit either because in reality I think he's just using the family as a pawn for his gain and not really visiting them to visit with them.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:31 pm

Fahran wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:Come on now we don't get fined we get a warning. And when we do legalize it we open up pot shops and get rich.

:roll: :lol: This is not a good thing.


As the owner of both a pot shop and a private prison I think it is.

do you know how much money you can make making low level drug dealers work on a pot plantation in Washington state ?
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Postby Fahran » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:42 pm

Greed and Death wrote:do you know how much money you can make making low level drug dealers work on a pot plantation in Washington state ?

Quite a lot.

I know hemp has a high margin at the moment as well. At least it did last time I checked. My main issue was that the racial disparity isn't a good thing.

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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:43 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Video of Black man Daniel Prude killed by police in Rochester months ago released. Prude’s brother called police because his brother was having a mental breakdown. When officers arrived, they handcuffed the naked man in the snow, and put a hood over his head. He died seven days later. The officers involved have now been suspended with pay, but many are wondering why it took six months for that to happen.

Biden visits Kenosha, but unlike Trump, he met with Jacob Blake’s family.

Did Blake's family want Trump to visit?


Probably not, considering it’s Trump. He literally went to rally (which is basically “The Don John Trump Show”) like a couple hours after his own brother died. He’s not exactly sympathetic to people.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:44 pm

Fahran wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:do you know how much money you can make making low level drug dealers work on a pot plantation in Washington state ?

Quite a lot.

I know hemp has a high margin at the moment as well. At least it did last time I checked. My main issue was that the racial disparity isn't a good thing.


*shrugs* but I am making money while paying the workforce 30 cents an hour.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:44 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Fahran wrote: :roll: :lol: This is not a good thing.


As the owner of both a pot shop and a private prison I think it is.

do you know how much money you can make making low level drug dealers work on a pot plantation in Washington state ?


I’m gonna guess a lot.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:45 pm

Slaughter None wrote:Some Anti-semitic comments were found on Jacob Blake's father fb account, Biden is supposed to meet him soon:-
https://www.waynedupree.com/2020/09/jac ... ts-jewish/


Looks like we're punishing people for the sins of the father now.

Maybe biden should meet with his mom instead.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:46 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Did Blake's family want Trump to visit?


Probably not, considering it’s Trump. He literally went to rally (which is basically “The Don John Trump Show”) like a couple hours after his own brother died. He’s not exactly sympathetic to people.


He also went to see a movie the night his other brother Fred Jr. Died.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:50 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Probably not, considering it’s Trump. He literally went to rally (which is basically “The Don John Trump Show”) like a couple hours after his own brother died. He’s not exactly sympathetic to people.


He also went to see a movie the night his other brother Fred Jr. Died.


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Postby Fahran » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:11 pm

Greed and Death wrote:*shrugs* but I am making money while paying the workforce 30 cents an hour.

Careful now, lawyer. Don't make me unionize your workforce and lead them out on strike.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Looks like we're punishing people for the sins of the father now.

Maybe biden should meet with his mom instead.

I haven't met too many normal women who really want to meet Biden. At least here his inappropriate hugging would come across as sympathetic and comforting rather than creepy. But, yeah, leave the family alone unless they actually want to meet with you is my stance on that.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:16 pm

Fahran wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:*shrugs* but I am making money while paying the workforce 30 cents an hour.

Careful now, lawyer. Don't make me unionize your workforce and lead them out on strike.


Prisoner's aren't allowed to unionize, and they can be made miserable for refusing to work.

It is like all the best aspects of feudalism with all the best aspects of capitalism.
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Postby Fahran » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:22 pm

Greed and Death wrote:Prisoner's aren't allowed to unionize, and they can be made miserable for refusing to work.

It is like all the best aspects of feudalism with all the best aspects of capitalism.

Ngl sounds like slavery.

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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:23 pm

Fahran wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:Prisoner's aren't allowed to unionize, and they can be made miserable for refusing to work.

It is like all the best aspects of feudalism with all the best aspects of capitalism.

Ngl sounds like slavery.

That is outlawed, limited to only one exception under the 13th amendment.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:24 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Fahran wrote:Ngl sounds like slavery.

That is outlawed, limited to only one exception under the 13th amendment.


Hence the mass incarceration of minorities I was rapping about.
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Postby Slaughter None » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:09 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Did Blake's family want Trump to visit?


Probably not, considering it’s Trump. He literally went to rally (which is basically “The Don John Trump Show”) like a couple hours after his own brother died. He’s not exactly sympathetic to people.

You are one to say, I really don't understand this criticism you are not attacking his politics, you are attacking him in doing so you won't be any better than him.

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Postby Slaughter None » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:12 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:That is outlawed, limited to only one exception under the 13th amendment.


Hence the mass incarceration of minorities I was rapping about.

That is not happening because it ain't the early 1900's no more.

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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:13 pm

Slaughter None wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Hence the mass incarceration of minorities I was rapping about.

That is not happening because it ain't the early 1900's no more.

Debatable considering that African Americans tend to be convicted more often then whites, and tend to face longer prison terms then whites for the same crime.
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