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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:38 pm

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Yeah, I figured you don't do any research before you say things, but I didn't think it was that bad.

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Maybe research conspiracy hoaxes before you blindly and enthusiastically vomit them.


what does a bill that allows a ten year age gap between abuser and victim have to do with a conspiracy theory?

sounds like to me youre dodging....

interesting.


What bill are you talking about then. There is no bill in California that decriminalizes pedophilia, technically or otherwise.
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:38 pm

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tbh if you stand in front of a heat ray for too long, you probably weren't that smart to begin with.


Unless you've got like, Shaolin level of self-control and mind-above-matter your own body probably won't let you stand in the ray very long.
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Postby Loben III » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:40 pm

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what does a bill that allows a ten year age gap between abuser and victim have to do with a conspiracy theory?

sounds like to me youre dodging....

interesting.


What bill are you talking about then. There is no bill in California that decriminalizes pedophilia, technically or otherwise.


SB-145
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Postby Loben III » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:41 pm

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tbh if you stand in front of a heat ray for too long, you probably weren't that smart to begin with.


Unless you've got like, Shaolin level of self-control and mind-above-matter your own body probably won't let you stand in the ray very long.


to be very honest im surprised this is not being touted as a revolution in non lethal means of dispersing an unruly crowd.
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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:44 pm

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What bill are you talking about then. There is no bill in California that decriminalizes pedophilia, technically or otherwise.


SB-145

You mean this?

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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:44 pm

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What bill are you talking about then. There is no bill in California that decriminalizes pedophilia, technically or otherwise.


SB-145


Yeah, that bill doesn't do that, go figure. :roll:

The bill leaves up to the judge presiding over statutory rape cases whether the accused needs to register as a sex offender, which, disproportionately, LGBTQ people were vs. heterosexual people. It's meant to protect, for example, 18 year olds who have sex with 17 year olds.

That's a weird way full of unfortunate implications to read the bill, in your case.
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Postby Loben III » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:45 pm

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SB-145

You mean this?


yes.

a ten year age gap, are they fucking mental?
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Postby Loben III » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:46 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Loben III wrote:
SB-145


Yeah, that bill doesn't do that, go figure. :roll:

The bill leaves up to the judge presiding over statutory rape cases whether the accused needs to register as a sex offender, which, disproportionately, LGBTQ people were vs. heterosexual people. It's meant to protect, for example, 18 year olds who have sex with 17 year olds.

That's a weird way full of unfortunate implications to read the bill, in your case.


ah yes, the poor people who have sex with minors, such a oppressed and targeted lot.
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:47 pm

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Unless you've got like, Shaolin level of self-control and mind-above-matter your own body probably won't let you stand in the ray very long.


to be very honest im surprised this is not being touted as a revolution in non lethal means of dispersing an unruly crowd.


Oh, some asshole cop is probably going to abuse it by pressing someone's face up against it or something leading to widespread condemnation anyway.

To be honest, a lot of our riot control stuff isn't bad, and wouldn't have a bad reputation if the cops were using it with restraint and actual thought.
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Postby Loben III » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:49 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
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to be very honest im surprised this is not being touted as a revolution in non lethal means of dispersing an unruly crowd.


Oh, some asshole cop is probably going to abuse it by pressing someone's face up against it or something leading to widespread condemnation anyway.

To be honest, a lot of our riot control stuff isn't bad, and wouldn't have a bad reputation if the cops were using it with restraint and actual thought.


considering the people who riot.....
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:49 pm

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Yeah, that bill doesn't do that, go figure. :roll:

The bill leaves up to the judge presiding over statutory rape cases whether the accused needs to register as a sex offender, which, disproportionately, LGBTQ people were vs. heterosexual people. It's meant to protect, for example, 18 year olds who have sex with 17 year olds.

That's a weird way full of unfortunate implications to read the bill, in your case.


ah yes, the poor people who have sex with minors, such a oppressed and targeted lot.


The bill has sparked a lot of comments on ABC10's and Senator Scott Wiener's Facebook pages, including false claims that the bill would make it so an 18-year-old could rape an 8-year-old.

"This bill has no application to anyone under the age of 14," Wiener said. "And that age range is an existing category in the law. It has existed for almost 100 years."

Despite death threats and negative comments directed toward Wiener, the bill passed.

"[It's been] supported by law enforcement, both the district attorneys and police chiefs support this bill, the rape crisis centers support this bill," Wiener said.


I think you're the one who is upset about it. :roll:

Unless you have a serious concern that every single judge in California is a pedophile, you're either being deliberately ignorant or you just don't understand what the bill does.
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Postby Loben III » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:51 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Loben III wrote:
ah yes, the poor people who have sex with minors, such a oppressed and targeted lot.


The bill has sparked a lot of comments on ABC10's and Senator Scott Wiener's Facebook pages, including false claims that the bill would make it so an 18-year-old could rape an 8-year-old.

"This bill has no application to anyone under the age of 14," Wiener said. "And that age range is an existing category in the law. It has existed for almost 100 years."

Despite death threats and negative comments directed toward Wiener, the bill passed.

"[It's been] supported by law enforcement, both the district attorneys and police chiefs support this bill, the rape crisis centers support this bill," Wiener said.


I think you're the one who is upset about it. :roll:

Unless you have a serious concern that every single judge in California is a pedophile, you're either being deliberately ignorant or you just don't understand what the bill does.


wouldnt put it pass them, its california.
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:51 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Loben III wrote:
ah yes, the poor people who have sex with minors, such a oppressed and targeted lot.


The bill has sparked a lot of comments on ABC10's and Senator Scott Wiener's Facebook pages, including false claims that the bill would make it so an 18-year-old could rape an 8-year-old.

"This bill has no application to anyone under the age of 14," Wiener said. "And that age range is an existing category in the law. It has existed for almost 100 years."

Despite death threats and negative comments directed toward Wiener, the bill passed.

"[It's been] supported by law enforcement, both the district attorneys and police chiefs support this bill, the rape crisis centers support this bill," Wiener said.


I think you're the one who is upset about it. :roll:

Unless you have a serious concern that every single judge in California is a pedophile, you're either being deliberately ignorant or you just don't understand what the bill does.


You going to start lecturing on the difference between ephebophile and pedophile next?
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:52 pm

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Salus Maior wrote:
Oh, some asshole cop is probably going to abuse it by pressing someone's face up against it or something leading to widespread condemnation anyway.

To be honest, a lot of our riot control stuff isn't bad, and wouldn't have a bad reputation if the cops were using it with restraint and actual thought.


considering the people who riot.....


We both know that the police have done some pretty inexcusable things, which has only fueled the riots and thus given accelerationists a platform.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:54 pm

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I think you're the one who is upset about it. :roll:

Unless you have a serious concern that every single judge in California is a pedophile, you're either being deliberately ignorant or you just don't understand what the bill does.


You going to start lecturing on the difference between ephebophile and pedophile next?


Not really a topic that interests me.

Does it interest you? :roll:
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:56 pm

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considering the people who riot.....


We both know that the police have done some pretty inexcusable things, which has only fueled the riots and thus given accelerationists a platform.

Still doesn’t justify randomly going and shooting cops, though, like those LAPD officers
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Postby Loben III » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:57 pm

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You going to start lecturing on the difference between ephebophile and pedophile next?


Not really a topic that interests me.



you couldnt tell.

but moving on.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:58 pm

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Not really a topic that interests me.



you couldnt tell.

but moving on.


You fucking brought up pedophilia first by saying absolutely nonsense about a bill.
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Postby Tranzoria » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:58 pm

You guys might want to make a new thread, cause this one is gonna be locked soon.
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:59 pm

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Salus Maior wrote:
You going to start lecturing on the difference between ephebophile and pedophile next?


Not really a topic that interests me.

Does it interest you? :roll:


No, I consider scum that prey on teenagers and scum that prey on pre-adolescents the same sort of scum, deserving of the same sorts of consequences.
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Postby Loben III » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:00 pm

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you couldnt tell.

but moving on.


You fucking brought up pedophilia first by saying absolutely nonsense about a bill.


which you then decided to say that it was a great day for LGBT rights if a 18 year old can fuck a minor.
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We both know that the police have done some pretty inexcusable things, which has only fueled the riots and thus given accelerationists a platform.

Still doesn’t justify randomly going and shooting cops, though, like those LAPD officers


Did it sound like I was justifying it?
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:01 pm

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Aureumterra wrote:Still doesn’t justify randomly going and shooting cops, though, like those LAPD officers


Did it sound like I was justifying it?

I wasn’t talking to you, but making a general statement
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:01 pm

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Not really a topic that interests me.

Does it interest you? :roll:


No, I consider scum that prey on teenagers and scum that prey on pre-adolescents the same sort of scum, deserving of the same sorts of consequences.


Like... People who pad sex offender registries with 18 year olds?
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:03 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
No, I consider scum that prey on teenagers and scum that prey on pre-adolescents the same sort of scum, deserving of the same sorts of consequences.


Like... People who pad sex offender registries with 18 year olds?


They are adults. Not teenagers.
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