US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread II

[Ifreann]

Strange how differently its taken when the police shoot someone compared to when the police are shot.

Sounds like you’re trying to justify someone shooting cops.

Does it? I'm just repeating the same things we hear when the cops shoot someone. If that sounds to you like I want cops to be shot, maybe what you're saying is that you want the cops to keep on murdering innocent people. Or maybe not, who can say?

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Who said I celebrated it? Did you see me going "YEEEEAH FUCK EM ALL"? No, I did not. I simply have very little sympathy for them, like how when a mobster gets shot in his driveway by hired hitmen sent by a rival crime family, i dont go "oh thats so horrible." I know my opinions on these kinds of things are unorthodox but if you're gonna criticize them, understand them fully first. My opinion isn't "let's kill all the cops." My opinion is "they joined a department with a culture of violence and it's kind of hypocritical that they can go around murdering people but then start whining when they get shot." I would rather no one be getting shot, but at the same time they've been killing quite a few people so they kinda dug themselves into a hole.

Did those two cops kill anybody?

Would it make any difference?

Lets say both cops turned out be murderers who had never been brought to justice. But the person who shot them didn't know that.

Would that make the act of shooting them any better or worse?

[Loben III]

Did those two cops kill anybody?

Would it make any difference?

Lets say both cops turned out be murderers who had never been brought to justice. But the person who shot them didn't know that.

Would that make the act of shooting them any better or worse?

Well of course the person who shot them probably didn’t, that’s the thing about animals who shoot people at random.

[Salus Maior]

We will never know as the officers turned off their body cameras.

Strange how differently its taken when the police shoot someone compared to when the police are shot.

...with a load of indignation?

Nobody’s celebrating anyone getting shot.

[The Rich Port]

I dunno if $3 billion is a good estimate but thems the cruel mathematics of a dead child, I guess.

It's like this. A dead plaintiff is rarely worth as much as a living, severely-maimed plaintiff. However, if it's a long slow agonizing death, as opposed to a quick drowning or car wreck, the value can rise considerably. A dead adult in his 20s is generally worth less than one who is middle aged. A dead woman less than a dead man. A single adult less than one who's married. Black less than white. Poor less than rich. The perfect victim is a white male professional, 40 years old, at the height of his earning power, struck down in his prime. And the most imperfect? Well, in the calculus of personal injury law, a dead child is worth the least of all.

... Isn't capitalism great.

[Ifreann]

Strange how differently its taken when the police shoot someone compared to when the police are shot.

...with a load of indignation?

Nobody’s celebrating anyone getting shot.

Nobody's offering the same kinds of justifications we see when cops shoot someone. Except me, and I'm doing it to make the point that no one else is doing it. When the cops shoot someone, people come out to give them the benefit of the doubt, people try to find reasons to make the shooting justified. But that's not happening now that some cops have been shot.

What's up with that?

[Salus Maior]

...with a load of indignation?

Nobody’s celebrating anyone getting shot.

Nobody's offering the same kinds of justifications we see when cops shoot someone. Except me, and I'm doing it to make the point that no one else is doing it. When the cops shoot someone, people come out to give them the benefit of the doubt, people try to find reasons to make the shooting justified. But that's not happening now that some cops have been shot.

What's up with that?

I've literally condemned all the unjustified cop shootings. So no, you're not the "lone voice" here.

I don't know anything about the two cops that have been shot, but if it were a matter of self-defense that would be fine by me. If it wasn't, and it was just some guy wanting to knock off some people, that's not justifiable.

[Ifreann]

Nobody's offering the same kinds of justifications we see when cops shoot someone. Except me, and I'm doing it to make the point that no one else is doing it. When the cops shoot someone, people come out to give them the benefit of the doubt, people try to find reasons to make the shooting justified. But that's not happening now that some cops have been shot.

What's up with that?

I've literally condemned all the unjustified cop shootings.

I never mentioned you.

So no, you're not the "lone voice" here.

I never suggested I was.

[Kowani]

Louisville reaches wrongful death settlement with the family of Breonna Taylor

The city of Louisville, Kentucky, has reached a settlement with Breonna Taylor's family six months after she was killed in her home during a police drug raid. A source familiar with the details of the settlement told NBC News the agreement is in the millions of dollars and will include a list of police reforms that will address officer accountability and the execution of search warrants. The settlement was first reported by The Louisville Courier-Journal. Attorneys Benjamin Crump, Sam Aguiar and Lonita Baker, who are representing Taylor's family, will discuss the settlement at a 2 p.m. ET news conference with Mayor Greg Fischer. The mayor's spokeswoman declined to comment Tuesday morning.

[The Emerald Legion]

No Knock Warrants are stupid. How the fuck am I supposed to know you're the police if you don't tell me you're the police?

[Loben III]

No Knock Warrants are stupid. How the fuck am I supposed to know you're the police if you don't tell me you're the police?

The idea is surprise irc for armed and dangerous types.

Dunno if Taylor or anyone else in her home we’re considered that tho.

[Kowani]

No Knock Warrants are stupid. How the fuck am I supposed to know you're the police if you don't tell me you're the police?

Yeah, Louisville made that illegal after this incident.

[The Emerald Legion]

No Knock Warrants are stupid. How the fuck am I supposed to know you're the police if you don't tell me you're the police?

The idea is surprise irc for armed and dangerous types.

Dunno if Taylor or anyone else in her home we’re considered that tho.

The police opened fire after Breonna's roommate shot at them and injured one of the officers because he thought they were burglars/intruders.

[Loben III]

The idea is surprise irc for armed and dangerous types.

Dunno if Taylor or anyone else in her home we’re considered that tho.

The police opened fire after Breonna's roommate shot at them and injured one of the officers because he thought they were burglars/intruders.

Jesus Christ.

[Cannot think of a name]

No Knock Warrants are stupid. How the fuck am I supposed to know you're the police if you don't tell me you're the police?

The idea is surprise irc for armed and dangerous types.

Dunno if Taylor or anyone else in her home we’re considered that tho.

They weren't considered anything, the police were at the wrong house and they had already gotten the person they were there to get.

[The Rich Port]

The idea is surprise irc for armed and dangerous types.

Dunno if Taylor or anyone else in her home we’re considered that tho.

They weren't considered anything, the police were at the wrong house and they had already gotten the person they were there to get.

Only thing that can stop a bunch of bad cops is... A dead body and people being outraged about the dead body, sad to say. Gun didn't help much this time.

[Blasted Craigs]

Food for thought...
Officers injured by rioters due to rioting incited at the call to violence by BLM have been granted by the courts the ability to sue BLM, which due to massive corporate and private contributions, and little to no spending money on Black lives, or any type of outreach or life betterment initiatives, has deep coffers. To the tune of over 100 million, 33 million from George Soros alone. Such a philanthropic guy, that Soros.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/16/black-lives-matter-cashes-100-million-liberal-foun/
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/court-injured-officer-sue-black-lives-matter-organizer-62660555
https://ehlinelaw.com/blog/blm-marxist-sued
Well, IMHO, if you incite others to violence, then you should be held responsible.

[Fahran]

The father of a special needs teenager killed by the shootings in CHOP has sued Seattle, Washington State, and King County for 1 Billion each.

Good. I hope he wins.

[Fahran]

But when the cops kill people without due process, this line is trotted out in their defence all the time.

And it's a non-sequitur argument. The justification for shooting a suspect should be limited to "he/she was putting other people in immediate threat of serious bodily harm or death." Their past record for drinking underage or robbing a convenience store is irrelevant to that decision.

[Celritannia]

But when the cops kill people without due process, this line is trotted out in their defence all the time.

And it's a non-sequitur argument. The justification for shooting a suspect should be limited to "he/she was putting other people in immediate threat of serious bodily harm or death." Their past record for drinking underage or robbing a convenience store is irrelevant to that decision.

A police officer can shoot someone without killing them though.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

And it's a non-sequitur argument. The justification for shooting a suspect should be limited to "he/she was putting other people in immediate threat of serious bodily harm or death." Their past record for drinking underage or robbing a convenience store is irrelevant to that decision.

A police officer can shoot someone without killing them though.

Well, that’s actually quite hard, because police forces are often equipped with hollow-point rounds, and those cause massive tissue damage. Even hitting someone in the leg will cause massive bleeding likely to cause death of medical help is not immediate.

[Saiwania]

A police officer can shoot someone without killing them though.

You don't shoot someone without accepting the possibility that they'll die. Most ammunition isn't weak enough as to qualify as "less than lethal" force. It will at minimum cause injury that they can try suing you for if they survive.

[Fahran]

A police officer can shoot someone without killing them though.

You're trained to aim for center mass with the knowledge that squeezing the trigger could kill the person you're shooting. There's no such thing as "aiming just to injure or incapacitate." Not killing someone is preferable, of course, but real life is not a Hollywood film. Aiming for someone's leg or hand while they're moving around is a great way to miss entirely and potentially injure or kill someone else.

The issue is some officers pulling the pulling out their firearms and squeezing the trigger when they don't need to do so.

[San Lumen]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/roc ... e-n1240084

Rochester Mayor Lovely Warren has fired the cities police chief and asked for a federal investigation of the Prude case.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

The law says that if your boss owes you $1,000 in wages and only gives you $200, that's not a crime, the cops can't do anything to help you, you have to just take that $200 and try to cover all your bills and also hire a lawyer to sue your boss. The law says that if the cops find you walking home with $200 cash on you, they can take it from you, claim that they believe the money might be used in a crime, and since they're technically bringing charges against the money itself and not you, you have basically zero legal recourse, even if you could use the $0 you now have to hire a lawyer.

The law says that if you end up homeless because of all this bullshit, and you find a bench that's only slightly painful to sleep on, the cops can lock you up. The law says that if you beg for help somewhere that people might have money to spare to help you, the cops can lock you up. The law says that if you can't handle the misery of all this bullshit and want to get high to feel better, the cops can lock you up. The law says that if you steal a $1.50 candy bar from the boss who owes you $800, the cops can lock you up.

No, depends on the department.

Youre really caping hard arent you?