US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread II

[Liriena]

Another Proud Boys caravan will be going through Portland.

License plates taped and all. Violation of Oregon state law and quite suspicious. Hope they are stopped before entering the city this time.

Later, Proud Boys charge female protester and beat her to the ground. Police rush in and make arrest. Good on them. They are keeping the protest in control so far.

Ah, but you see, the Proud Boys are a multiracial group of violent incels, so it's fine.

[Loben III]

Another Proud Boys caravan will be going through Portland.

License plates taped and all. Violation of Oregon state law and quite suspicious. Hope they are stopped before entering the city this time.

Later, Proud Boys charge female protester and beat her to the ground. Police rush in and make arrest. Good on them. They are keeping the protest in control so far.

Ah, but you see, the Proud Boys are a multiracial group of violent incels, so it's fine.

i fail to see anything to be concerned about as fair as racial violence goes tbh.

as for hooliganism that is something to be very concerned about.

[Spirit of Hope]

Even more evidence that you shouldn't trust the police when a relative is having a mental health emergency.

TLDR: a mother called the police because her 13 year old son was having a mental break down. She told the police he was unarmed, and within 5 minutes the police shot him. The police have not reported finding a weapon.

[Insaanistan]

Even more evidence that you shouldn't trust the police when a relative is having a mental health emergency.

TLDR: a mother called the police because her 13 year old son was having a mental break down. She told the police he was unarmed, and within 5 minutes the police shot him. The police have not reported finding a weapon.

Oh my God! Dear God, help that family and help us to do something to change this country for the better!

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Even more evidence that you shouldn't trust the police when a relative is having a mental health emergency.

TLDR: a mother called the police because her 13 year old son was having a mental break down. She told the police he was unarmed, and within 5 minutes the police shot him. The police have not reported finding a weapon.

I bet one of the cops gets fired for that. "You were supposed to bring the straw gun, idiot! Enjoy working in Security."

[Ifreann]

Another Proud Boys caravan will be going through Portland.

License plates taped and all. Violation of Oregon state law and quite suspicious. Hope they are stopped before entering the city this time.

Later, Proud Boys charge female protester and beat her to the ground. Police rush in and make arrest. Good on them. They are keeping the protest in control so far.

Ah, but you see, the Proud Boys are a multiracial group of violent incels, so it's fine.

Fascists of colour.

[The Lone Alliance]

Another Proud Boys caravan will be going through Portland.

License plates taped and all. Violation of Oregon state law and quite suspicious. Hope they are stopped before entering the city this time.

Later, Proud Boys charge female protester and beat her to the ground. Police rush in and make arrest. Good on them. They are keeping the protest in control so far.

Ah, but you see, the Proud Boys are a multiracial group of violent incels, so it's fine.

With COVID going around I think a large part of the country is full of people you could consider incels at this point, it's kind of hard to have a stable relationship and a sexlife when you're worried about getting COVID from everyone you know, your job is gone because of the shutdowns, and all the hang out places are closed.

Could explain another reason why everyone is so uptight. I really think there's actually an even larger issue right now that society itself is breaking down in some ways, and while I'm sure a lot will try to claim "It's the riots it's all BLM's fault it's all the racists fault" etc, I think it's mostly because the COVID stuff has left people feeling cut off and angry and they're taking it out on the world.

Including the above nuts who likely believe COVID was a myth to destroy the economy to "stop Trump".

Alright, crazy proposal...hear me out...before anyone else pulls something out of their ass about the 1619 Project, maybe fucking Google it? Do some basic reading about it? Because I don’t even know where to start with this shit. All I can say is none of you seem to have any idea what it really is in any material way, and no, I’m not going to explain it to you. You took it on yourselves to critique something you clearly know nothing about, now do the work you should have done before you posted.

Most of the people actually did explain and did list sources showing why they question the 1619 project, you just refused to listen. The problem with the 1619 project is that it's about as biased as a Climate Change Denier's scientific study, where they will ignore every source that disagrees with them to find the handful of sources that support their ideological view.

It can be referred too but it shouldn't be treated as an accurate history source, it's a least marginally better than "The Lost Cause" which was the previous racist narrative that a lot of the South believed for several decades but ultimately was just some racist whitewashing history to believe what he wanted to believe about the South. But really it's kind of the same thing, she went after the 1619 project not to get the truth about slavery in the US but to tell her personal truth about the history of slavery in the US.

[North American Imperial State]

Even more evidence that you shouldn't trust the police when a relative is having a mental health emergency.

TLDR: a mother called the police because her 13 year old son was having a mental break down. She told the police he was unarmed, and within 5 minutes the police shot him. The police have not reported finding a weapon.

What the actual fuck is wrong with the US police, shoot first ask questions later mentality is stupid.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Even more evidence that you shouldn't trust the police when a relative is having a mental health emergency.

TLDR: a mother called the police because her 13 year old son was having a mental break down. She told the police he was unarmed, and within 5 minutes the police shot him. The police have not reported finding a weapon.

What the actual fuck is wrong with the US police, shoot first ask questions later mentality is stupid.

Sounds like she called Police and asked for a Crisis Intervention Team, but what she got was two ordinary Police. It's not clear whether SLCPD has a CIT, they have a CIT but they were busy or off-duty, of if someone decided the job sounded too dangerous for the CIT.

The woman had the right idea though. There really should be officers selected and trained to manage mental health issues.

[Telconi]

What the actual fuck is wrong with the US police, shoot first ask questions later mentality is stupid.

Sounds like she called Police and asked for a Crisis Intervention Team, but what she got was two ordinary Police. It's not clear whether SLCPD has a CIT, they have a CIT but they were busy or off-duty, of if someone decided the job sounded too dangerous for the CIT.

The woman had the right idea though. There really should be officers selected and trained to manage mental health issues.

In what world is it "the right idea" to call the cops on your 13 year old child because they're having an incident?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Sounds like she called Police and asked for a Crisis Intervention Team, but what she got was two ordinary Police. It's not clear whether SLCPD has a CIT, they have a CIT but they were busy or off-duty, of if someone decided the job sounded too dangerous for the CIT.

The woman had the right idea though. There really should be officers selected and trained to manage mental health issues.

In what world is it "the right idea" to call the cops on your 13 year old child because they're having an incident?

In a world where 'calling the cops on someone' should not entail the possibility of extrajudicial execution. 'Calling the cops on someone' should not mean that you accept the possibility of their death. It should not even factor in.

The only reason it would not be okay to call the police for something like this is if you live in a country where the police are both expected to deal with every situation requiring authority, but these same people are also trained to perform and prioritise extreme violence. In any normal situation, calling the cops because your child is suffering from heavy fits should not result in them being fucking shot, and the fact that you expect that says more about your police system than it says about this woman.

Don't fucking blame this woman for the death of her own child. Blame the person who put a bullet through him.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Another Proud Boys caravan will be going through Portland.

License plates taped and all. Violation of Oregon state law and quite suspicious. Hope they are stopped before entering the city this time.

Later, Proud Boys charge female protester and beat her to the ground. Police rush in and make arrest. Good on them. They are keeping the protest in control so far.

Saw the video of them chasing that woman (man?) this morning. Brave brave men. All rallying together like that to chase down a single person. Patriots of America.

[Kowani]

Even more evidence that you shouldn't trust the police when a relative is having a mental health emergency.

TLDR: a mother called the police because her 13 year old son was having a mental break down. She told the police he was unarmed, and within 5 minutes the police shot him. The police have not reported finding a weapon.

Can't wait for some fuckstick to try to justify this one 'cause he had missing homework or whatever the excuse of the day is...

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Sounds like she called Police and asked for a Crisis Intervention Team, but what she got was two ordinary Police. It's not clear whether SLCPD has a CIT, they have a CIT but they were busy or off-duty, of if someone decided the job sounded too dangerous for the CIT.

The woman had the right idea though. There really should be officers selected and trained to manage mental health issues.

In what world is it "the right idea" to call the cops on your 13 year old child because they're having an incident?

The story is sketchy (just that article) but she says she asked for the Crisis Intervention Team. She got regular cops.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Don't fucking blame this woman for the death of her own child. Blame the person who put a bullet through him.

Usually the boy's father is there, and the mother said the boy was suffering "separation anxiety".

Luckily the boy survived; he's in hospital. But add Post-Traumatic Stress to his other problems now.

[Phoenicaea]

^in europe the mind of calling police for such a matter is insane, because the dedicated service is not part of police, it is either ‘social services’ or ‘health service’ if you wish to know.

i believe you, yet if you tell to european he will struggle to believe at first. your political matter is police has assumed the role of welfare, which is incredibly inappropriate. revise your welfare.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

^in europe the mind of calling police for such a matter is insane, because the dedicated service is not part of police, it is either ‘social services’ or ‘health service’ if you wish to know.

i believe you, yet if you tell to european he will struggle to believe at first. your political matter is police has assumed the role of welfare, which is incredibly inappropriate. revise your welfare.

Sure they need more of that too. In cases like this where the boy might have posed a risk to welfare agents, I think something in between is called for. If they need weapons at all, they could leave them back at the car. They would be strong people with training in wrestling and so on, like police. Like police (and unlike welfare) they would have signed up for a job they knew might involve violence. But they'd be much better trained in dealing with mental health problems, people having overdoses, suicidal people not armed with a gun, and other situations not suited to police or welfare.

You have to bear in mind that when police, welfare or paramedics enter someone's house in America, there's something like 40% chance someone in there has a gun. If the report is "there's an armed criminal in my house" then police with all the gear are called for. If the report is "I feel terrible about everything and I don't know what I might do" then welfare is the answer. If it's more ambiguous like "my boy is freaking out and I can't get near him because he hits me" then some hybrid of police and welfare seems right.

[Vassenor]

The moment when you realise that more damage has been done to lives and property by Gender Reveal parties than by these protests.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

The moment when you realise that more damage has been done to lives and property by Gender Reveal parties than by these protests.

That's a stretch. Nobody died from that Gender Reveal nonsense. Not even injuries. It's only in the area burned that it exceeds riots.

[Gravlen]

The moment when you realise that more damage has been done to lives and property by Gender Reveal parties than by these protests.

That's a stretch. Nobody died from that Gender Reveal nonsense. Not even injuries. It's only in the area burned that it exceeds riots.

I'm not saying Vass is right, because I haven't looked into that, but I know you are wrong, unfortunately:

Family members at the party, where expectant parents were announcing the sex of their baby, inadvertently created a pipe bomb that killed a woman in Iowa, a sheriff said.

Explosion at Gender Reveal Party Kills Woman, Officials Say

The article mentions something about the cost of one GRP gone horribly wrong:

A United States Border Patrol agent’s gender reveal party in Arizona last year sparked a fire that consumed more than 45,000 acres and caused more than $8 million in damage.

[Insaanistan]

Another Proud Boys caravan will be going through Portland.

License plates taped and all. Violation of Oregon state law and quite suspicious. Hope they are stopped before entering the city this time.

Later, Proud Boys charge female protester and beat her to the ground. Police rush in and make arrest. Good on them. They are keeping the protest in control so far.

Ah, but you see, the Proud Boys are a multiracial group of violent incels, so it's fine.

A quick google search reveals they only officially reject white supremacy. So no, this Trump-loving, alt-right, Confederate-supporting group of nearly all white people, filled with white supremacist neo-Nazis, doesn’t get to have that title.

[Gravlen]

Don't fucking blame this woman for the death of her own child. Blame the person who put a bullet through him.

Bullets. Plural. Because of course they needed to shoot the child multiple times.

Oh, you should in addition also blame the system for failing so grotesquely.

[Anarchizt]

Even more evidence that you shouldn't trust the police when a relative is having a mental health emergency.

TLDR: a mother called the police because her 13 year old son was having a mental break down. She told the police he was unarmed, and within 5 minutes the police shot him. The police have not reported finding a weapon.

What the actual fuck is wrong with the US police, shoot first ask questions later mentality is stupid.

it may seem so, but the reason for this is that when they dont shoot first. they get shot first. the whole country is armed, more guns than people. not on any side, just explaining why it is like that

[Spirit of Hope]

What the actual fuck is wrong with the US police, shoot first ask questions later mentality is stupid.

it may seem so, but the reason for this is that when they dont shoot first. they get shot first. the whole country is armed, more guns than people. not on any side, just explaining why it is like that

Really, the 13 year old with no weapon could have shot at the police first? That doesn't make any sense.

The simple fact is the police are far more likely to shoot someone than to be shot themselves. The police are in more danger of COVID than they are of criminals with guns.

If you look at the FBI data you will see officers are about as likely to be killed in an accidental as they are to be killed intentionally.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

That's a stretch. Nobody died from that Gender Reveal nonsense. Not even injuries. It's only in the area burned that it exceeds riots.

I'm not saying Vass is right, because I haven't looked into that, but I know you are wrong, unfortunately:

Family members at the party, where expectant parents were announcing the sex of their baby, inadvertently created a pipe bomb that killed a woman in Iowa, a sheriff said.

Explosion at Gender Reveal Party Kills Woman, Officials Say

The article mentions something about the cost of one GRP gone horribly wrong:

A United States Border Patrol agent’s gender reveal party in Arizona last year sparked a fire that consumed more than 45,000 acres and caused more than $8 million in damage.

OK, the first thing I found was in California and it reported no injuries or houses lost.