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Are the police racist?

Yes
325
40%
No
379
47%
Other (explain below)
107
13%
 
Total votes : 811

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Postby United States of Devonta » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:20 pm

Slaughter None wrote:
Liriena wrote:Naked fearmongering and 1350.

Oh yeah, my dude here is doing some good old fashioned white supremacism. Very cool. Now all you're missing is references to interracial cuckoldry.

Oh yes, classic call your opponents a Nazi,you guys are the ones who will call Ben Shapiro and Andy Ngo white supremacists, lol.


Andy Ngo did provide a list of journalist to a literal Neo-Nazi terrorist group. Not accidentally either.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:21 pm

So the antifa terrorist in Portland who killed the Trump supporter just got riddled with bullets by the feds.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/michael-reinoehl-suspect-in-portland-shooting-is-killed-by-law-enforcement-11599193942?mod=hp_lead_pos1
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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:22 pm

Slaughter None wrote:
Liriena wrote:Naked fearmongering and 1350.

Oh yeah, my dude here is doing some good old fashioned white supremacism. Very cool. Now all you're missing is references to interracial cuckoldry.

Oh yes, classic call your opponents a Nazi,you guys are the ones who will call Ben Shapiro and Andy Ngo white supremacists, lol.

Ben Shapiro has spent years justifying (and celebrating) police violence against black people and denying the existence of systemic racism. He even wrote a cringey "thriller" novel where he implies that black activism against police brutality is actually a massive conspiracy that all black people are in on.

And Andy Ngo? Andy Ngo got caught collaborating with actual white supremacist militias. He's provided them with targets and covered up their crimes.

Hmmm, geesh that deflection turned out horribly for you.
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Postby Slaughter None » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:23 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:Oh yes, classic call your opponents a Nazi,you guys are the ones who will call Ben Shapiro and Andy Ngo white supremacists, lol.


Andy Ngo did provide a list of journalist to a literal Neo-Nazi terrorist group. Not accidentally either.

He is asian and also gay he literally cannot be a Nazi and can you give evidence for what you claim?

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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:24 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:So the antifa terrorist in Portland who killed the Trump supporter just got riddled with bullets by the feds.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/michael-reinoehl-suspect-in-portland-shooting-is-killed-by-law-enforcement-11599193942?mod=hp_lead_pos1

Correction: the activist who exercised his 2nd Amendment rights by defending himself against a violent Trumpist terrorist was just assassinated by police.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:25 pm

Slaughter None wrote:Like I said you attack the person, not his ideas.

Your ideas are shit.
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Postby Slaughter None » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:26 pm

Liriena wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:Oh yes, classic call your opponents a Nazi,you guys are the ones who will call Ben Shapiro and Andy Ngo white supremacists, lol.

Ben Shapiro has spent years justifying (and celebrating) police violence against black people and denying the existence of systemic racism. He even wrote a cringey "thriller" novel where he implies that black activism against police brutality is actually a massive conspiracy that all black people are in on.

And Andy Ngo? Andy Ngo got caught collaborating with actual white supremacist militias. He's provided them with targets and covered up their crimes.

Hmmm, geesh that deflection turned out horribly for you.

Ben Shapiro never justified police violence and he denies systemic racism because it doesn't exist but he has acknowledged that racism exists and has experienced it himself being Jewish.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:26 pm

Liriena wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:So the antifa terrorist in Portland who killed the Trump supporter just got riddled with bullets by the feds.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/michael-reinoehl-suspect-in-portland-shooting-is-killed-by-law-enforcement-11599193942?mod=hp_lead_pos1

Correction: the activist who exercised his 2nd Amendment rights by defending himself against a violent Trumpist terrorist was just assassinated by police.


>defending terrorism
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Postby Slaughter None » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:27 pm

Liriena wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:So the antifa terrorist in Portland who killed the Trump supporter just got riddled with bullets by the feds.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/michael-reinoehl-suspect-in-portland-shooting-is-killed-by-law-enforcement-11599193942?mod=hp_lead_pos1

Correction: the activist who exercised his 2nd Amendment rights by defending himself against a violent Trumpist terrorist was just assassinated by police.

Hahaha gun kill innocents (sarcasm).

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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:30 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Liriena wrote:Correction: the activist who exercised his 2nd Amendment rights by defending himself against a violent Trumpist terrorist was just assassinated by police.


>defending terrorism

Shooting some Trumpist imbecile as he tries to mace you is not "terrorism". At worst, it's an excessive, illegal retaliation against a dumbass who (by bootlicker logic) kinda brought it on himself.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:31 pm

Slaughter None wrote:Like I said you attack the person, not his ideas.


You have ideas? :p

Slaughter None wrote:And also he was talking about mass incarceration, saying that people are thrown in there regardless of their crimes which really isn't happening but hey if you can bail everybody out problem fixed right? What's the worst that could happen with murderers,rapists, looters and arsonists on the streets?


Some progress has been made in reducing the prison population. It's still a disgrace to America.

Looters are non-violent criminals. They don't harm anyone physically, or threaten them. I don't see why you give them such a bad rap.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:31 pm

Slaughter None wrote:
Liriena wrote:Correction: the activist who exercised his 2nd Amendment rights by defending himself against a violent Trumpist terrorist was just assassinated by police.

Hahaha gun kill innocents (sarcasm).

Pictured here: the same poster who has been malding all day over how Blake totally deserved to be shot in the back seven times.

Oh, and I forgot it was also you who not so long ago denied that cops killed George Floyd.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:32 pm

Slaughter None wrote:
Liriena wrote:Ben Shapiro has spent years justifying (and celebrating) police violence against black people and denying the existence of systemic racism. He even wrote a cringey "thriller" novel where he implies that black activism against police brutality is actually a massive conspiracy that all black people are in on.

And Andy Ngo? Andy Ngo got caught collaborating with actual white supremacist militias. He's provided them with targets and covered up their crimes.

Hmmm, geesh that deflection turned out horribly for you.

Ben Shapiro never justified police violence and he denies systemic racism because it doesn't exist but he has acknowledged that racism exists and has experienced it himself being Jewish.

Do we need to bring out the evidence of systemic racism again?

You know what? I'll even give you a free shot. You can pick what discipline (housing, policing, education, etc) you want me to prove the existence of systemic racism in.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:33 pm

Slaughter None wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Andy Ngo did provide a list of journalist to a literal Neo-Nazi terrorist group. Not accidentally either.

He is asian and also gay he literally cannot be a Nazi and can you give evidence for what you claim?


There were Jews who helped the Nazis. Racist tend to love people who agree with them, no matter their creed. Also, more and more far-right groups don't really care about homosexuality.

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https://www.salon.com/2019/08/28/right- ... ate-group/
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Postby Slaughter None » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:34 pm

Liriena wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:Hahaha gun kill innocents (sarcasm).

Pictured here: the same poster who has been malding all day over how Blake totally deserved to be shot in the back seven times.

You really focus on the seven times not on the other details, good coverage and completely unbiased news. You could become a reporter at CNN.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:34 pm

Liriena wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
>defending terrorism

Shooting some Trumpist imbecile as he tries to mace you is not "terrorism". At worst, it's an excessive, illegal retaliation against a dumbass who (by bootlicker logic) kinda brought it on himself.


There is no evidence of any sort of attack happening to him. He killed an unarmed man, then fled in a high speed pursuit with the police. He had a prior record of violent behavior. Best of all, he literally confessed to committing murder on national news earlier today in a Vice interview and said he was fighting a civil war.

But yeah, I guess according to you "Trumpists" deserve to be murdered. Hence the terrorism designation, and you are endorsing that. Even other antifa people think this guy was a dangerous extremist and you're out here defending him.

This ain't it chief.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:34 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:Like I said you attack the person, not his ideas.


You have ideas? :p

It seems his ideas boil down to "systemic racism doesn't exist but black people deserve it".
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Postby United States of Devonta » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:36 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Liriena wrote:Shooting some Trumpist imbecile as he tries to mace you is not "terrorism". At worst, it's an excessive, illegal retaliation against a dumbass who (by bootlicker logic) kinda brought it on himself.


There is no evidence of any sort of attack happening to him. He killed an unarmed man, then fled in a high speed pursuit with the police. He had a prior record of violent behavior. Best of all, he literally confessed to committing murder on national news earlier today in a Vice interview and said he was fighting a civil war.

But yeah, I guess according to you "Trumpists" deserve to be murdered. Hence the terrorism designation, and you are endorsing that. Even other antifa people think this guy was a dangerous extremist and you're out here defending him.


Video shows Trump guy sprayed mace. He responded with gunshots. So yes, evidence exist. In the same interview he says it was self-defense.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:37 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Liriena wrote:Shooting some Trumpist imbecile as he tries to mace you is not "terrorism". At worst, it's an excessive, illegal retaliation against a dumbass who (by bootlicker logic) kinda brought it on himself.


There is no evidence of any sort of attack happening to him. He killed an unarmed man, then fled in a high speed pursuit with the police. He had a prior record of violent behavior. Best of all, he literally confessed to committing murder on national news earlier today in a Vice interview and said he was fighting a civil war.

If I actually got my facts wrong on this, I'll be happy to retract myself when it's time.

But yeah, I guess according to you "Trumpists" deserve to be murdered.

No. Very subtle, that strawman, but no.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:38 pm

Slaughter None wrote:
Liriena wrote:Pictured here: the same poster who has been malding all day over how Blake totally deserved to be shot in the back seven times.

You really focus on the seven times not on the other details, good coverage and completely unbiased news. You could become a reporter at CNN.

Nah, CNN are a bunch of libs. I'm aiming for a prolific Youtube channel or podcast.
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Postby Slaughter None » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:38 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Slaughter None wrote:He is asian and also gay he literally cannot be a Nazi and can you give evidence for what you claim?


There were Jews who helped the Nazis. Racist tend to love people who agree with them, no matter their creed. Also, more and more far-right groups don't really care about homosexuality.

https://emilygorcenski.com/post/andy-ng ... kill-list/
https://www.salon.com/2019/08/28/right- ... ate-group/

All "evidence" you have provided is merely opinion and I am sorry if I fail to understand how a gay ASIAN man can be a White Supremacist. White nationalists are getting inclusive aren't they?(lol)

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Postby Slaughter None » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:40 pm

Liriena wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
You have ideas? :p

It seems his ideas boil down to "systemic racism doesn't exist but black people deserve it".

What???

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:41 pm

Slaughter None wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Andy Ngo did provide a list of journalist to a literal Neo-Nazi terrorist group. Not accidentally either.

He is asian and also gay he literally cannot be a Nazi and can you give evidence for what you claim?


Identity politics right there. A person's race and sexuality determines what they are ... or are not.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:42 pm

Slaughter None wrote:
Liriena wrote:It seems his ideas boil down to "systemic racism doesn't exist but black people deserve it".

What???

We're very familiar with right-wing "I'm totally not racist" tactics.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:45 pm

Slaughter None wrote:
Liriena wrote:It seems his ideas boil down to "systemic racism doesn't exist but black people deserve it".

What???

You deny that systemic racism exists and point to the disproportion in arrests. If you are not trying to imply that black people somehow deserve that disproportion, then what are you trying to imply?

Or maybe you weren't trying to imply anything. Maybe it was a completely empty talking point to you, something you incorporated from somebody else without thinking, and that you now reproduce without thinking.
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