US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread II

[Cordel One]

They'd probably spend it all on military equipment or something, cops already have a massive budget and it's only making things worse.

Throwing money at a fundamentally racist system isn't gonna fix anything.

they would feel more secure and not need to shoot people as much if they were in bullet proof tanks.

So what, they drive a tank into Breonna Taylor's house?

[Greed and Death]

they would feel more secure and not need to shoot people as much if they were in bullet proof tanks.

So what, they drive a tank into Breonna Taylor's house?

yeah much less likely to shoot a sleeping person doing that.

[Kowani]

They'd probably spend it all on military equipment or something, cops already have a massive budget and it's only making things worse.

Throwing money at a fundamentally racist system isn't gonna fix anything.

they would feel more secure and not need to shoot people as much if they were in bullet proof tanks.

This is actually false, more militarized police are more violent.

[Cordel One]

So what, they drive a tank into Breonna Taylor's house?

yeah much less likely to shoot a sleeping person doing that.

They shouldn't be driving tanks into people's houses either though.

[Greed and Death]

yeah much less likely to shoot a sleeping person doing that.

They shouldn't be driving tanks into people's houses either though.

Lets just focus on solving one problem at a time. First we stop the shooting of people. Then doubling funding again might give them drones with handcuffs and tasers or something to reduce the need to drive a tank into a house.

[Cordel One]

They shouldn't be driving tanks into people's houses either though.

Lets just focus on solving one problem at a time. First we stop the shooting of people. Then doubling funding again might give them drones with handcuffs and tasers or something to reduce the need to drive a tank into a house.

Let's just abolish 'em.

[Des-Bal]

They shouldn't be driving tanks into people's houses either though.

That's right, I should be. And who will stop me with the police abolished.

[Cordel One]

They shouldn't be driving tanks into people's houses either though.

That's right, I should be. And who will stop me with the police abolished.

Would you though?

[Greed and Death]

Lets just focus on solving one problem at a time. First we stop the shooting of people. Then doubling funding again might give them drones with handcuffs and tasers or something to reduce the need to drive a tank into a house.

Let's just abolish 'em.

But who will keep the poor from seizing the means of production ?

[Cordel One]

Let's just abolish 'em.

But who will keep the poor from seizing the means of production ?

That's the point.

[Des-Bal]

The comrades.

My bros shall soundly whip the comrades, I will have no shortage of allies because I'll be giving them houses I seize with my tank. But at a certain point dissecting the problems with your idea is just going to devolve into a discussion of why anarchy and communism are bad and dumb so I'm comfortable dropping it.

[-Astoria-]

ReplⒶce?

Ye-es?

[No State Here]

Cool, let's all agree police should be allowed to pick and choose which laws they enforce, wait fuck no.
Actually lets allow police to write the laws themselves so they only have to enforce the just ones, wait fuck no.

Better idea, take this shit up with lawmakers?

That's the fundamental issue with cops, and that's why I want to abolish them.

My hand is wounded, let me cut off my entire arm

[Gig em Aggies]

That's the fundamental issue with cops, and that's why I want to abolish them.

My hand is wounded, let me cut off my entire arm

well by Cordel One's logic then we should just abolish the entire US government, all firefighters, Paramedics, the entire military, all doctors, nurses, etc, all city officials hell abolish the entire country and all of humanity just because a few people do bad things.

[Aureumterra]

My hand is wounded, let me cut off my entire arm

well by Cordel One's logic then we should just abolish the entire US government, all firefighters, Paramedics, the entire military, all doctors, nurses, etc, all city officials hell abolish the entire country and all of humanity just because a few people do bad things.

He’s a self proclaimed Marxist

[Cordel One]

My hand is wounded, let me cut off my entire arm

well by Cordel One's logic then we should just abolish the entire US government, all firefighters, Paramedics, the entire military, all doctors, nurses, etc, all city officials hell abolish the entire country and all of humanity just because a few people do bad things.

Yes.
We can keep the firefighters and paramedics but make them worker-run.

[-Astoria-]

well by Cordel One's logic then we should just abolish the entire US government, all firefighters, Paramedics, the entire military, all doctors, nurses, etc, all city officials hell abolish the entire country and all of humanity just because a few people do bad things.

He’s a self proclaimed Marxist

[...] personal ideology is neozapatismo.

[Aureumterra]

"Fundamentally Racist" as proven by what? Grievance studies?

Science and history, actually. It's ok. I know not understanding either is an ideological necessity on your part.

Childish attacks aside, do you have any sources to back that up? Preferably not grievance studies which didn’t follow the scientific method and only exist to virtue signal?

[Cordel One]

That's the fundamental issue with cops, and that's why I want to abolish them.

My hand is wounded, let me cut off my entire arm

My whole arm is a malignant tumor, we should probably amputate this thing.

[Cannot think of a name]

Don’t really think it matters if Floyd was a decent person or not, assholes have rights, too.

Seriously, if you can’t see the problem with a cop kneeling on a suspect’s neck until they die, maybe you shouldn’t be discussing things involving the police?

Even the rookie thought they should get up and Chauvin said no.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Don’t really think it matters if Floyd was a decent person or not, assholes have rights, too.

Seriously, if you can’t see the problem with a cop kneeling on a suspect’s neck until they die, maybe you shouldn’t be discussing things involving the police?

Besides, in the new, 20 minute video we’re all supposed to be freaking out about because Floyd “was no Angel” or whatever, one of the very first things the cops do when they arrive is pull a gun on the guy, whose crime was a fake $20. If the video’s supposed to exonerate the police for their murder, it’s a fucking failure.

This is why I pray the cops don't kill me. You'll see many of the usual right wing talking heads bring out every bad thing I ever did and say "see this fucking wetb- I mean bean- b, bad horrible man deserved to die."

[Farnhamia]

"Fundamentally Racist" as proven by what? Grievance studies?

Science and history, actually. It's ok. I know not understanding either is an ideological necessity on your part.

*** Warned for flaming ***

[Liriena]

Science and history, actually. It's ok. I know not understanding either is an ideological necessity on your part.

Childish attacks aside, do you have any sources to back that up?

Enjoy this whole ass bibliography which delves into every single level of systemic racism in law enforcement and the criminal justice system.

Also,

Science and history, actually. It's ok. I know not understanding either is an ideological necessity on your part.

*** Warned for flaming ***

How is that flaming? I spoke of Aureumterra's ideology, not of his person.

[Liriena]

My hand is wounded, let me cut off my entire arm

well by Cordel One's logic then we should just abolish the entire US government, all firefighters, Paramedics, the entire military, all doctors, nurses, etc, all city officials hell abolish the entire country and all of humanity just because a few people do bad things.

Actually, by Cordel One's logic, the police specifically ought to be abolished because, among many things, its history is too tightly intertwined with systemic racism for the institution to be considered salvageable. Police, from its inception, has been one of the main enforcers of white supremacism in the United States. And it still is, despite the end of Jim Crow laws decades ago.

Cordel One might also want to abolish the entire US government, given that they're an honest to goodness leftist and most honest to goodness leftists aspire for a stateless society. But as for the rest of the stuff listed? Pure strawmanship on your part. Sad.

[Des-Bal]

Actually, by Cordel One's logic, the police specifically ought to be abolished because, among many things, its history is too tightly intertwined with systemic racism for the institution to be considered salvageable. Police, from its inception, has been one of the main enforcers of white supremacism in the United States. And it still is, despite the end of Jim Crow laws decades ago.

Cordel One might also want to abolish the entire US government, given that they're an honest to goodness leftist and most honest to goodness leftists aspire for a stateless society. But as for the rest of the stuff listed? Pure strawmanship on your part. Sad.

This is interesting because you're making straw men for your own side. I declare that I have invented this concept and name it Paper Tanking, if someone thinks they did it first let them knock a battery off my shoulder.

You just created that logic wholecloth for him. He explicitly said his problem with police was that they enforced the law. His solution was expressly that there should be no law or law enforcement.