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Are the police racist?

Yes
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No
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Other (explain below)
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:46 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:

Trader Joe's Leadership were the ones who were debating on changing the names, they were never pressured until after they announced that they may do it. And I wouldn't consider "RedState" a reliable news source as it has a heavy heavy right-wing bias.


Bias is fine.

The problems come when that biased source makes such a fucking bullshit error/misinformation and is peddled by an ignorant wannabe demagogue in an attempt at basic rabble rousing.

Looking at you, Kex, old buddy.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/fo ... 532298002/

Ultimately, this has nothing to do with the Anti-Police protests, so, good job.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:50 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:


Your rabidly biased article doesn't even mention what is supposed to be offensive about the name "Trader Joe's"

If the reason for the petition doesn't even bear mentioning, it follows that the chain's decision doesn't bear mentioning either.


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Postby No State Here » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:34 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:


Your rabidly biased article doesn't even mention what is supposed to be offensive about the name "Trader Joe's"

If the reason for the petition doesn't even bear mentioning, it follows that the chain's decision doesn't bear mentioning either.

It’s referring to their ethnic packaging, not "Trader Joe"

Since you aren’t American, I’d assume you’ve never been there, here’s the basic rundown: Trader Joe’s has a large variety of frozen or ready to cook food, much of which is ethnic food. They package that in ways relating to the perceived country of that food’s origin, so Chinese food is packaged as "Trader Ming’s," Japanese food is "Trader Joe San," Italian food is "Trader Giotto’s," Mexican food is "Trader Jose’s" and so on
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:53 pm

No State Here wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Your rabidly biased article doesn't even mention what is supposed to be offensive about the name "Trader Joe's"

If the reason for the petition doesn't even bear mentioning, it follows that the chain's decision doesn't bear mentioning either.

It’s referring to their ethnic packaging, not "Trader Joe"

Since you aren’t American, I’d assume you’ve never been there, here’s the basic rundown: Trader Joe’s has a large variety of frozen or ready to cook food, much of which is ethnic food. They package that in ways relating to the perceived country of that food’s origin, so Chinese food is packaged as "Trader Ming’s," Japanese food is "Trader Joe San," Italian food is "Trader Giotto’s," Mexican food is "Trader Jose’s" and so on


Sounds cute actually. But I can see why they thought twice about it. Pretty clearly there was no "Ming" or "Giotto" in the history of the brand, but the presence of so many variations makes it rather obviously a marketing gimmick. Variation on their store name, it's more silly than offensive.

Using the name Butterworth, and an image allegedly of her, and a backstory to their syrup, I think add up to Trader Jo's should reach an agreement with the Butterworth heirs. A percentage of sales as though a trademark agreement. Or they could just rename the syrup. They can't just say "the reputation of that brand has nothing to do with the name or image, it goes way back but conveniently for us it doesn't go all the way back to the real Mrs Butterworth".
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Postby Nolo gap » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:58 pm

they're NOT "anti-police". they're anti-lavishing on the use of force to fix problems, what would more logically be invested in preventing them.

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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:39 pm

Nolo gap wrote:they're NOT "anti-police". they're anti-lavishing on the use of force to fix problems, what would more logically be invested in preventing them.

That's true for most people, some more radical people like me are anti-police.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:40 am

Kowani wrote:The LAPD is being charged with having falsified gang records, putting 750 cases in jeopardy.

Sure does seem like the LAPD are some bad hombres.


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Ifreann wrote:Yes. America blasts is news all over the world for everyone to hear. It's no wonder you can't hear the news from other countries.

There are many Chinese ethnicities. And German isn't an ethnicity at all. And every other country in the Americas, just like the US, obviously has many ethnicities, because there were already lots of different peoples living there before Europeans showed up.

Add Australia to that

Indeed.


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Ifreann wrote:There are many Chinese ethnicities.

90% of China is Han Chinese. China is more Chinese than Norway is Norwegian

Han is one Chinese ethnicity, yes. I don't know why you feel the need to tell me what percentage they make up of the population of China, nor why you feel the need to compare that to, presumably, the percentage of some unspecified Norwegian ethnicity to the population of Norway.
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Postby Anti Defense League » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:11 pm

What started as organic outrage has turned into a tool of the establishment to be class reductionist, turning communities and races against each other for no gain other than to said establishment.

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Postby Anti Defense League » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:14 pm

Ifreann wrote:The police are basically a gang and you should really abolish them.


I'm always curious what people think will happen after you abolish the Police.....

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:29 pm

Anti Defense League wrote:What started as organic outrage has turned into a tool of the establishment to be class reductionist, turning communities and races against each other for no gain other than to said establishment.


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Postby Anti Defense League » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:18 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Anti Defense League wrote:What started as organic outrage has turned into a tool of the establishment to be class reductionist, turning communities and races against each other for no gain other than to said establishment.


:eyebrow:


Hmm?

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Postby Kexholm and Karelia » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:57 pm

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:06 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:


I thought they were always peaceful? :roll:

You had to duck to miss that point huh?
It's not going to be peaceful when people are being kidnapped off the streets boyo.

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Postby Anti Defense League » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:19 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
I thought they were always peaceful? :roll:

You had to duck to miss that point huh?
It's not going to be peaceful when people are being kidnapped off the streets boyo.


Which never happened.

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Postby Necroghastia » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:41 pm

Anti Defense League wrote:
Genivaria wrote:You had to duck to miss that point huh?
It's not going to be peaceful when people are being kidnapped off the streets boyo.


Which never happened.

:roll:
Oh, sure, they were just being pulled off the streets by unidentified thugs in unmarked vans for little/no reason. That's wayyyyy different.
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Postby Uiiop » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:43 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Anti Defense League wrote:
Which never happened.

:roll:
Oh, sure, they were just being pulled off the streets by unidentified thugs in unmarked vans for little/no reason. That's wayyyyy different.

Why don't you trust the cops when they believed the people they pulled off were all rioting funded by soros? /s
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Postby American Pere Housh » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:05 pm

Are some LEO racist? Probably. Are all LEO racist? No they are not. Those rioters better stop rioting and attacking federal property or the president will be forced to declare martial law and send the military in. Everyday the Left doesn't denounce these riots is increasing President Trump's chances of winning reelection. TRUMP 2020 MAGA KAG!!!!!!
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:10 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:Are some LEO racist? Probably. Are all LEO racist? No they are not. Those rioters better stop rioting and attacking federal property or the president will be forced to declare martial law and send the military in. Everyday the Left doesn't denounce these riots is increasing President Trump's chances of winning reelection. TRUMP 2020 MAGA KAG!!!!!!

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Postby American Pere Housh » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:13 pm

Ifreann wrote:Anyway, leaving aside this bizarre diversion:

The police are basically a gang and you should really abolish them.

Have you seen the rising violent crime rate in cities where they have defunded the police. There are local police departments near Milwaukee who are refusing to protect the DNC because they can't use tear gas or pepper spray in case riots do break out.
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Cannot think of a name wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:Are some LEO racist? Probably. Are all LEO racist? No they are not. Those rioters better stop rioting and attacking federal property or the president will be forced to declare martial law and send the military in. Everyday the Left doesn't denounce these riots is increasing President Trump's chances of winning reelection. TRUMP 2020 MAGA KAG!!!!!!

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What? :eyebrow:
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Postby Anti Defense League » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:14 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Anti Defense League wrote:
Which never happened.

:roll:
Oh, sure, they were just being pulled off the streets by unidentified thugs in unmarked vans for little/no reason. That's wayyyyy different.


Wheres the proof?

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