US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread II

[Andsed]

The 40% number has been floating around since 2014 at least. It's not a recent thing.

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/ar ... ds/380329/

I’d really like someone to produce the actual study. I keep running into walls trying to find it.

Maybe you should stop running while trying to look something up?

I am not sorry.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I’d really like someone to produce the actual study. I keep running into walls trying to find it.

Maybe you should stop running while trying to look something up?

I am not sorry.

Or maybe he should run with his wallet open in front of him? It opens a lot of doors.

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Another pig acquitted. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42277309

Cops constantly get away with everything claiming they feared for their life but utterly terrified people are expected to comply with convoluted commands perfectly? Keep making excuses for them like you would be totally calm with a gun in your face. It's completely fucked. If it were the other way around and the guy shot the cop, there would probably be a very different outcome. The only reason the police in Louisville dropped the charges against Breonna Taylor's boyfriend is because they knew that if he went on trial they would have been exposed.

I think quite a lot of shootings of police are legitimate self-defense. And I wish that the people on trial for that were acquitted as often as cops.

[Mirjt]

Another pig acquitted. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42277309

Cops constantly get away with everything claiming they feared for their life but utterly terrified people are expected to comply with convoluted commands perfectly? Keep making excuses for them like you would be totally calm with a gun in your face. It's completely fucked. If it were the other way around and the guy shot the cop, there would probably be a very different outcome. The only reason the police in Louisville dropped the charges against Breonna Taylor's boyfriend is because they knew that if he went on trial they would have been exposed.

I think quite a lot of shootings of police are legitimate self-defense. And I wish that the people on trial for that were acquitted as often as cops.

That is very true.

For example, apparently in the anti-police protests, when the police shot tear gas into crowds of peaceful protestors, some of the protestors used self-defense and use leaf blowers to blow away the tear gas, of course some of that when back to the police and the police started claiming that was assault, when it is obviously self-defense against chemical weapons banned in warfare.

[Ifreann]

So you read this:

And your take away was "only 24%"? You don't notice any qualifiers in that sentence?

it says "of older and much more experienced officers"

Yes, it does. And you said "the article that we are talking about says only 24%"

Do you see how those two things don't match?

[Holy Tedalonia]

The 40% number has been floating around since 2014 at least. It's not a recent thing.

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/ar ... ds/380329/

I’d really like someone to produce the actual study. I keep running into walls trying to find it.

Kowani and I we're trying so hard to find it the other day. Having to use the wayback machine. I found two sources that didnt have a link that were the studies and decided to give up past that point. I was so fucking sick of the wild goose chase, of a almost 30 year old study. I don't even think people look into the study, they just see the 40% and run with it.

[La Xinga]

it says "of older and much more experienced officers"

Yes, it does. And you said "the article that we are talking about says only 24%"

Do you see how those two things don't match?

No.

[Neutraligon]

Here is a 2013 (thesis?) paper that mentions the studies as well as goes into why that statistic may exist. It also does it's own study. https://scholarworks.bgsu.edu/cgi/viewc ... m_just_pub

[Kowani]

I’d really like someone to produce the actual study. I keep running into walls trying to find it.

Kowani and I we're trying so hard to find it the other day. Having to use the wayback machine. I found two sources that didnt have a link that were the studies and decided to give up past that point. I was so fucking sick of the wild goose chase, of a almost 30 year old study. I don't even think people look into the study, they just see the 40% and run with it.

It should also be mentioned that of the two studies, the one I could access is a Congressional hearing, which is 117 pages in tiny ass font, that cites the one that’s paywalled.

[Lanoraie II]

Unfortunately domestic violence among LEOs in America is off the charts. A small part of it could be inability to deal with stress + PTSD, but most is they're just [REDACTED] little [REDACTED]. Granted, I bet it's a bit lower now as there is a sizeable influx of new, young police officers who have a different "air" about them, whether good or bad, there's a lot of police who are inclined to post shit on TikTok instead of beat their wives and children.

I'd be interested in seeing if there's a study for rates of domestic violence committed by officers in other countries, particularly Germany and Nordic Europe. I bet it's much lower. Edit: Probably, hopefully, maybe a little lower among park ranger/game warden LEOs too? ....Hopefully. Totally not saying that because I'm biased or anything nope.

[Lanoraie II]

And how so?

Police, as an institution, are racist. By being a member of that institution, a police officer is perpetuating that racism, and thus is racist regardless of what their personal beliefs are.

Well that's a pretty bold and baseless statement. Have you ever considered that there's officers, judges, COs okay let's face it, not COs, they're all twats, lawyers, etc. actively trying to make change and reroute the way the system works? No, you haven't, because you don't care to think about that possibility. You demand change but don't want anyone who knows the police life to make that change because they're rACiSt for being a police officer. And if you're so hell bent on calling everything racist, then fine, cool. Guess I'm racist. Are you happy now? Do you feel better? Do you feel like you've done something meaningful? Or is your job done now?

Individual officers are not perpetuating racism by being police officers. Anything to do with prosecution goes to the judge or lawmakers. We have nothing to do with it UNLESS we are actively being racist, or trying to get laws and SOPs changed to better benefit vulnerable communities; i.e. sending only police officers to deal with suicidal people. It's a medical emergency, should have EMS there first with police only stepping in if there's weapons involved.

[La Xinga]

Unfortunately domestic violence among LEOs in America is off the charts. A small part of it could be inability to deal with stress + PTSD, but most is they're just [REDACTED] little [REDACTED]. Granted, I bet it's a bit lower now as there is a sizeable influx of new, young police officers who have a different "air" about them, whether good or bad, there's a lot of police who are inclined to post shit on TikTok instead of beat their wives and children.

I'd be interested in seeing if there's a study for rates of domestic violence committed by officers in other countries, particularly Germany and Nordic Europe. I bet it's much lower. Edit: Probably, hopefully, maybe a little lower among park ranger/game warden LEOs too? ....Hopefully. Totally not saying that because I'm biased or anything nope.

But why does America have a problem with policing while other countries do not? Because we are the only non-ethno country (Besides micro)?

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Minneapolis 'Umbrella Man' seen in viral video believed to be white supremacist trying to incite violence

Police: Richmond riots instigated by white supremacists disguised as Black Lives Matter

Interesting to see if someone gets charged over this.

[Torisakia]

Unfortunately domestic violence among LEOs in America is off the charts. A small part of it could be inability to deal with stress + PTSD, but most is they're just [REDACTED] little [REDACTED]. Granted, I bet it's a bit lower now as there is a sizeable influx of new, young police officers who have a different "air" about them, whether good or bad, there's a lot of police who are inclined to post shit on TikTok instead of beat their wives and children.

I'd be interested in seeing if there's a study for rates of domestic violence committed by officers in other countries, particularly Germany and Nordic Europe. I bet it's much lower. Edit: Probably, hopefully, maybe a little lower among park ranger/game warden LEOs too? ....Hopefully. Totally not saying that because I'm biased or anything nope.

But why does America have a problem with policing while other countries do not? Because we are the only non-ethno country (Besides micro)?

America already does everything else backwards so why not police violence? There's no way to prevent it, you know.

[La Xinga]

But why does America have a problem with policing while other countries do not? Because we are the only non-ethno country (Besides micro)?

America already does everything else backwards so why not police violence? There's no way to prevent it, you know.

???

[Torisakia]

America already does everything else backwards so why not police violence? There's no way to prevent it, you know.

???

I mean we're the only country I know of the doesn't use the metric system, one of the only first world countries that doesn't have affordable universal healthcare, and contends that there's no way to stop shootings despite the solution staring them right in the face.

So maybe not completely backwards, but definitely against the grain of what other more successful countries are doing.

[La Xinga]

???

I mean we're the only country I know of the doesn't use the metric system, one of the only first world countries that doesn't have affordable universal healthcare, and contends that there's no way to stop shootings despite the solution staring them right in the face.

So maybe not completely backwards, but definitely against the grain of what other more successful countries are doing.

Liberia and Burma also don't have metric.

[Genivaria]

I mean we're the only country I know of the doesn't use the metric system, one of the only first world countries that doesn't have affordable universal healthcare, and contends that there's no way to stop shootings despite the solution staring them right in the face.

So maybe not completely backwards, but definitely against the grain of what other more successful countries are doing.

Liberia and Burma also don't have metric.

What good company to keep. /s

[Torisakia]

I mean we're the only country I know of the doesn't use the metric system, one of the only first world countries that doesn't have affordable universal healthcare, and contends that there's no way to stop shootings despite the solution staring them right in the face.

So maybe not completely backwards, but definitely against the grain of what other more successful countries are doing.

Liberia and Burma also don't have metric.

Ok, one of three that I know. That's still a pretty low number in comparison to those that do. But that's a discussion for another topic so I'll leave it.

[Ifreann]

Unfortunately domestic violence among LEOs in America is off the charts. A small part of it could be inability to deal with stress + PTSD, but most is they're just [REDACTED] little [REDACTED]. Granted, I bet it's a bit lower now as there is a sizeable influx of new, young police officers who have a different "air" about them, whether good or bad, there's a lot of police who are inclined to post shit on TikTok instead of beat their wives and children.

I'd be interested in seeing if there's a study for rates of domestic violence committed by officers in other countries, particularly Germany and Nordic Europe. I bet it's much lower. Edit: Probably, hopefully, maybe a little lower among park ranger/game warden LEOs too? ....Hopefully. Totally not saying that because I'm biased or anything nope.

But why does America have a problem with policing while other countries do not?

Lots of countries do have problems with policing.

Because we are the only non-ethno country (Besides micro)?

You what?

[Valrifell]

Liberia and Burma also don't have metric.

What good company to keep. /s

You fools. The inch is defined to be precisely equal to 2.54cm. It's been metric all along. Always has been.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

What good company to keep. /s

You fools. The inch is defined to be precisely equal to 2.54cm. It's been metric all along. Always has been.

Well it hasn't always been. Only since 1959: before that it was defined as the length of the king's dick.

[Farnhamia]

You fools. The inch is defined to be precisely equal to 2.54cm. It's been metric all along. Always has been.

Well it hasn't always been. Only since 1959: before that it was defined as the length of the king's dick.

Anyway, it's defined as 25.4mm, not those ridiculous centimeters.

[La Xinga]

But why does America have a problem with policing while other countries do not?

Lots of countries do have problems with policing.

Because we are the only non-ethno country (Besides micro)?

You what?

1. I only hear about America!
2. ???

[Genivaria]

You fools. The inch is defined to be precisely equal to 2.54cm. It's been metric all along. Always has been.

Well it hasn't always been. Only since 1959: before that it was defined as the length of the king's dick.

DAAAAAAYUUUM!