US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread II

[Mirjt]

Nah, they're racist.

Every police is?

Policing in the U.S. is racist (and homophobic, and transphobic, and classist, and ableist, and xenophobic, etc...). The institution itself always targets the marginalized of any society regardless of the basis of their marginalization.

Though to be fair there are a number of white supremacists in U.S. policing and it was intentionally set up that way. See the YouTuber SecondThought's video on the topic, or a more overview of why policing is bad on ThoughtSlime's video on the topic.

[La Xinga]

Every police is?

Policing in the U.S. is racist (and homophobic, and transphobic, and classist, and ableist, and xenophobic, etc...). The institution itself always targets the marginalized of any society regardless of the basis of their marginalization.

Though to be fair there are a number of white supremacists in U.S. policing and it was intentionally set up that way. See the YouTuber SecondThought's video on the topic, or a more overview of why policing is bad on ThoughtSlime's video on the topic.

I'm pretty sure there are LGBT cops.

And I'm not seeing videos, you tell me what they say, not show me a video.

[Cisairse]

The police are. Mass noun.

When one becomes a police they are automatically racist?

In a way, yes.

[Mirjt]

Policing in the U.S. is racist (and homophobic, and transphobic, and classist, and ableist, and xenophobic, etc...). The institution itself always targets the marginalized of any society regardless of the basis of their marginalization.

Though to be fair there are a number of white supremacists in U.S. policing and it was intentionally set up that way. See the YouTuber SecondThought's video on the topic, or a more overview of why policing is bad on ThoughtSlime's video on the topic.

I'm pretty sure there are LGBT cops.

And I'm not seeing videos, you tell me what they say, not show me a video.

It is not about individual police officers whom may be members of marginalized communities in one way but not in others. It is about the institution and act of policing itself.

I don't feel comfortable linking to SecondThought's video on the topic because it is graphic (including footage of the murder of George Floyd) and even YouTube requires you to be over 18 to view it.

As for ThoughtSlime's video, here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk5xnEL8mYg

[La Xinga]

When one becomes a police they are automatically racist?

In a way, yes.

Even if their views are very much not?

I'm pretty sure there are LGBT cops.

And I'm not seeing videos, you tell me what they say, not show me a video.

It is not about individual police officers whom may be members of marginalized communities in one way but not in others. It is about the institution and act of policing itself.

I don't feel comfortable linking to SecondThought's video on the topic because it is graphic (including footage of the murder of George Floyd) and even YouTube requires you to be over 18 to view it.

As for ThoughtSlime's video, here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk5xnEL8mYg

Institution and act of police itself? You think police have orders to kill certain races?
I-I literally told you not to link me a video and say with your own words.

[Cisairse]

In a way, yes.

Even if their views are very much not?

Yes.

[La Xinga]

Even if their views are very much not?

Yes.

And how so?

[Cisairse]

Yes.

And how so?

Police, as an institution, are racist. By being a member of that institution, a police officer is perpetuating that racism, and thus is racist regardless of what their personal beliefs are.

[La Xinga]

And how so?

Police, as an institution, are racist. By being a member of that institution, a police officer is perpetuating that racism, and thus is racist regardless of what their personal beliefs are.

How is the institution racist?

[Mirjt]

In a way, yes.

Even if their views are very much not?

It is not about individual police officers whom may be members of marginalized communities in one way but not in others. It is about the institution and act of policing itself.

I don't feel comfortable linking to SecondThought's video on the topic because it is graphic (including footage of the murder of George Floyd) and even YouTube requires you to be over 18 to view it.

As for ThoughtSlime's video, here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk5xnEL8mYg

Institution and act of police itself? You think police have orders to kill certain races?
I-I literally told you not to link me a video and say with your own words.

I am sorry, I misinterpreted what you meant, I thought you were saying that all I was doing was telling you their words and that I was unwilling to show you the video. I interpreted your words incorrectly. Unfortunately it would take up several many paragraphs and posts and maybe pages to fully explain what these two, twenty minute videos can explain. The ThoughtSlime video however is really good at addressing your complaint "you think police have orders to kill certain races?" as it addresses how the institution of policing is harmful in and of itself (no, I don't think they have explicit orders to attack specific races, I think that it naturally falls into racist practices because that is part of the reason it exists in the first place - going back to its creation as slave patrols).

[Fartsniffage]

Police, as an institution, are racist. By being a member of that institution, a police officer is perpetuating that racism, and thus is racist regardless of what their personal beliefs are.

How is the institution racist?

Really?

[La Xinga]

Even if their views are very much not?


Institution and act of police itself? You think police have orders to kill certain races?
I-I literally told you not to link me a video and say with your own words.

I am sorry, I misinterpreted what you meant, I thought you were saying that all I was doing was telling you their words and that I was unwilling to show you the video. I interpreted your words incorrectly. Unfortunately it would take up several many paragraphs and posts and maybe pages to fully explain what these two, twenty minute videos can explain. The ThoughtSlime video however is really good at addressing your complaint "you think police have orders to kill certain races?" as it addresses how the institution of policing is harmful in and of itself (no, I don't think they have explicit orders to attack specific races, I think that it naturally falls into racist practices because that is part of the reason it exists in the first place - going back to its creation as slave patrols).

Police started as salve patrols?

https://www.badgeandwallet.com/news/bri ... nforcement

[Cisairse]

Police, as an institution, are racist. By being a member of that institution, a police officer is perpetuating that racism, and thus is racist regardless of what their personal beliefs are.

How is the institution racist?

Are you actually interested in learning the answer to this question, or was this a rhetorical question?

[Holy Tedalonia]

I am sorry, I misinterpreted what you meant, I thought you were saying that all I was doing was telling you their words and that I was unwilling to show you the video. I interpreted your words incorrectly. Unfortunately it would take up several many paragraphs and posts and maybe pages to fully explain what these two, twenty minute videos can explain. The ThoughtSlime video however is really good at addressing your complaint "you think police have orders to kill certain races?" as it addresses how the institution of policing is harmful in and of itself (no, I don't think they have explicit orders to attack specific races, I think that it naturally falls into racist practices because that is part of the reason it exists in the first place - going back to its creation as slave patrols).

Police started as salve patrols?

https://www.badgeandwallet.com/news/bri ... nforcement

Yes and no, in the north the police departments were formed to attempt to copy the British MP back in England. Who were formed to counter crime in London, before become a common thing for most English cities. Wearing blue to make a difference from the occasional redshirt British soldier. The south though, did in fact have their police come from slave patrol origins. Though it matters little, other than being a fact the left likes to gloat.

[La Xinga]

How is the institution racist?

Are you actually interested in learning the answer to this question, or was this a rhetorical question?

I want to know your answer.

Police started as salve patrols?

https://www.badgeandwallet.com/news/bri ... nforcement

Yes and no, in the north the police departments were formed to attempt to copy the British MP back in England. Who were formed to counter crime in London, before become a common thing for most English cities. Wearing blue to make a difference from the occasional redshirt British soldier. The south though, did in fact have their police come from slave patrol origins. Though it matters little, other than being a fact the left likes to gloat.

But most of these police shootings happened in the north, I think. And in Democratic states I think.

[Holy Tedalonia]

Are you actually interested in learning the answer to this question, or was this a rhetorical question?

I want to know your answer.

Yes and no, in the north the police departments were formed to attempt to copy the British MP back in England. Who were formed to counter crime in London, before become a common thing for most English cities. Wearing blue to make a difference from the occasional redshirt British soldier. The south though, did in fact have their police come from slave patrol origins. Though it matters little, other than being a fact the left likes to gloat.

But most of these police shootings happened in the north, I think. And in Democratic states I think.

And what I'm saying is that the claim police come from slave patrols is a partially correct and partially incorrect statement. If your attempt at saying the institution is racist, because of origins you'd be wrong.

[Trollgaard]

Wow, people trying to uphold law and order, stop crime, and catch criminals is by definition racist?

What a load a crap.

Policing by default is not racist. Cut that line of BS thinking out. You will get NO WHERE with it in reality, and will only hurt your cause.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Nah, they're racist.

Every police is?

I don't want to get All X Are Y'ed, so, I'm just gonna say that the police as an institution exists to protect the ultrawealthy and enforce laws that are often discriminatory against minority or disadvantaged groups. Furthermore, at least 40% of cops are domestic abusers according to two different studies across the country.


The police as an institution does not exist to uphold law and order or to protect and serve anyone but the ultrawealthy.

[Mirjt]

Every police is?

I don't want to get All X Are Y'ed, so, I'm just gonna say that the police as an institution exists to protect the ultrawealthy and enforce laws that are often discriminatory against minority or disadvantaged groups. Furthermore, at least 40% of cops are domestic abusers according to two different studies across the country.


The police as an institution does not exist to uphold law and order or to protect and serve anyone but the ultrawealthy.

Good Response

[Fartsniffage]

Wow, people trying to uphold law and order, stop crime, and catch criminals is by definition racist?

What a load a crap.

Policing by default is not racist. Cut that line of BS thinking out. You will get NO WHERE with it in reality, and will only hurt your cause.

How police investigate crime is the issue. But I think you know that.

[Kowani]

Wow, people trying to uphold law and order, stop crime, and catch criminals is by definition racist?

What a load a crap.

Policing by default is not racist. Cut that line of BS thinking out. You will get NO WHERE with it in reality, and will only hurt your cause.

Except for the data showing the massive racial bias in policing, but go ahead.

[La Xinga]

Every police is?

I don't want to get All X Are Y'ed, so, I'm just gonna say that the police as an institution exists to protect the ultrawealthy and enforce laws that are often discriminatory against minority or disadvantaged groups. Furthermore, at least 40% of cops are domestic abusers according to two different studies across the country.


The police as an institution does not exist to uphold law and order or to protect and serve anyone but the ultrawealthy.

I wouldn't think a website that doesn't exist called "womenandpolicing.com" is unbiased.

[Alcala-Cordel]

I don't want to get All X Are Y'ed, so, I'm just gonna say that the police as an institution exists to protect the ultrawealthy and enforce laws that are often discriminatory against minority or disadvantaged groups. Furthermore, at least 40% of cops are domestic abusers according to two different studies across the country.


The police as an institution does not exist to uphold law and order or to protect and serve anyone but the ultrawealthy.

I wouldn't think a website that doesn't exist called "womenandpolicing.com" is unbiased.

You'll be pleased to know they didn't do the studies themselves, they just cited them both.

[Kowani]

I wouldn't think a website that doesn't exist called "womenandpolicing.com" is unbiased.

You'll be pleased to know they didn't do the studies themselves, they just cited them both.

is it just me, or is the link broken?

[La Xinga]

I wouldn't think a website that doesn't exist called "womenandpolicing.com" is unbiased.

You'll be pleased to know they didn't do the studies themselves, they just cited them both.

Problem with link maybe?