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Postby Kowani » Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:41 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Wait, I thought cops admired The Punisher...

No matter what side The Punisher would take, he’d go waaay too far and make matters worse.

So he’s perfect for any inner city police department.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:04 am

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It means to kill. Don't play dumb.

I did not know that. I will make a note of that for the future.

Objection/question withdrawn.


I've changed my mind. Sorry, but I do that rather easily. I just read "put down" my way, and wasn't aware that "put down a protest" used to be perfectly valid idiom. It's archaic now, probably driven out of use by how "put down the horse" has the meaning of kill.

"Put down a protest" still has a sinister note to it, implying bodies on the ground when it's done. This is another way it's archaic, we don't want that to happen every time the police try to suppress a protest. A century ago maybe that was perfectly acceptable.

Still not nice, but not something you'd be warned for. Calling for people's deaths is over the line, but calling for police to use plenty of force on protesters ... I'm really not sure.

I think you have grounds to appeal, at least. If you misused a single word in a way that was offensive, no chance. But an idiom, which does all alternative uses, might be a different matter.

Oh my, I do rattle on. I'd appeal if I were you. Sorry if I implied you were stupid, or speechless, or pretending to be speechless. My own idioms go wrong sometimes too!
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Postby Vapormancer » Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:13 am

Kowani wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:No matter what side The Punisher would take, he’d go waaay too far and make matters worse.

So he’s perfect for any inner city police department.


That implies they do anything about justice or serious organized crime. Please don't slander fine men like the Punisher with weaklings like that thank you. They can't be bothered to deal with the poors butchering each other.

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Postby Purpelia » Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:15 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Purpelia wrote:I did not know that. I will make a note of that for the future.

Objection/question withdrawn.


I've changed my mind. Sorry, but I do that rather easily. I just read "put down" my way, and wasn't aware that "put down a protest" used to be perfectly valid idiom. It's archaic now, probably driven out of use by how "put down the horse" has the meaning of kill.

"Put down a protest" still has a sinister note to it, implying bodies on the ground when it's done. This is another way it's archaic, we don't want that to happen every time the police try to suppress a protest. A century ago maybe that was perfectly acceptable.

Still not nice, but not something you'd be warned for. Calling for people's deaths is over the line, but calling for police to use plenty of force on protesters ... I'm really not sure.

I think you have grounds to appeal, at least. If you misused a single word in a way that was offensive, no chance. But an idiom, which does all alternative uses, might be a different matter.

Oh my, I do rattle on. I'd appeal if I were you. Sorry if I implied you were stupid, or speechless, or pretending to be speechless. My own idioms go wrong sometimes too!

I won't. Honestly, better for people to read it and not come off thinking its a good idea to call for killings.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:17 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Just saying, I think I saw the communist flag of Cuba flown by one of the protestors.


Protesting is the art of encouraging everyone who likes you, while offending everyone who doesn't like you.

And some protesters aren't very artful. They accidentally offend friends, or accidentally encourage enemies.

If I could offer some advice ... don't burn flags, that offends too many people, but without making them think.
... and spell check your damn signs, people! If you're even a bit unsure how to spell "public", look it up.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:21 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:I just found this video from the Chicago Police Department. The video is not very clear at the start but gets better as it goes on. At least two black American cop talks on the video. You can see the protestors throwing stuff at the cops. The Chicago Police department claims violence against the Police. I used to live in Chicago. Just saying, I think I saw the communist flag of Cuba flown by one of the protestors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1VdhQb ... _rel_pause


I thought Cuban Americans all supported Trump though.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:55 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I just found this video from the Chicago Police Department. The video is not very clear at the start but gets better as it goes on. At least two black American cop talks on the video. You can see the protestors throwing stuff at the cops. The Chicago Police department claims violence against the Police. I used to live in Chicago. Just saying, I think I saw the communist flag of Cuba flown by one of the protestors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1VdhQb ... _rel_pause


I thought Cuban Americans all supported Trump though.


I could be taking this too seriously, but ...
The flag might mean "free Cuba, down with Castro!"
Or it might mean "free Healthcare!"

Flags not being that good as protest signs.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:00 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
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It is likely why his villains keep getting released, the judges keep throwing out the evidence Batman has gathered.

If he spent half of his bat-budget updating Arkham Asylum...

He could probably just hire Victor Fries to work in the labs. Buy one fewer Batwings that year, give the money to Fries to work on curing his wife.


Cannot think of a name wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Wait, I thought cops admired The Punisher...

No matter what side The Punisher would take, he’d go waaay too far and make matters worse.

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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:39 am

Ifreann wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:If he spent half of his bat-budget updating Arkham Asylum...

He could probably just hire Victor Fries to work in the labs. Buy one fewer Batwings that year, give the money to Fries to work on curing his wife.

Batman has the funds so Mr. Freeze could just research curing his wife along with numerous other people with the disease. But Capitalism says the Bat must fight him and throw him in Arkham.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:09 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I just found this video from the Chicago Police Department. The video is not very clear at the start but gets better as it goes on. At least two black American cop talks on the video. You can see the protestors throwing stuff at the cops. The Chicago Police department claims violence against the Police. I used to live in Chicago. Just saying, I think I saw the communist flag of Cuba flown by one of the protestors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1VdhQb ... _rel_pause


I thought Cuban Americans all supported Trump though.

The one's who fly the Cuban Flag at these kinds of protests are American leftists, many wear Che Guevara shirts.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:50 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I just found this video from the Chicago Police Department. The video is not very clear at the start but gets better as it goes on. At least two black American cop talks on the video. You can see the protestors throwing stuff at the cops. The Chicago Police department claims violence against the Police. I used to live in Chicago. Just saying, I think I saw the communist flag of Cuba flown by one of the protestors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1VdhQb ... _rel_pause


I thought Cuban Americans all supported Trump though.

It was a white leftist
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:58 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I thought Cuban Americans all supported Trump though.

It was a white leftist


Well that's plain to see. White because they look white. And Leftist because they have one head.

Everyone's a leftist to you :p
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:59 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:It was a white leftist


Well that's plain to see. White because they look white. And Leftist because they have one head.

Everyone's a leftist to you :p

I would assume you are a leftist to fly the Cuban Communist Flag, I may be wrong but based on general knowledge, it’s a safe bet
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:00 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I thought Cuban Americans all supported Trump though.

The one's who fly the Cuban Flag at these kinds of protests are American leftists, many wear Che Guevara shirts.


Oh, you can tell by the shirt. We don't call them "leftists" over here, we call them "wankers"
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:02 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Well that's plain to see. White because they look white. And Leftist because they have one head.

Everyone's a leftist to you :p

I would assume you are a leftist to fly the Cuban Communist Flag, I may be wrong but based on general knowledge, it’s a safe bet


I'm not taking that bet, because I don't know the track. But GMS might be interested in taking your money!
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Postby Andsed » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:28 am

Greed and Death wrote:
Ifreann wrote:He could probably just hire Victor Fries to work in the labs. Buy one fewer Batwings that year, give the money to Fries to work on curing his wife.

Batman has the funds so Mr. Freeze could just research curing his wife along with numerous other people with the disease. But Capitalism says the Bat must fight him and throw him in Arkham.

He also has the fund to invest in poorer neighborhoods and create jobs so that people are not pushed to crime by desperation. It just seems that Bruce Wayne for all his genius does not understand the best way to fight crime.
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Postby Ors Might » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:38 am

Andsed wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:Batman has the funds so Mr. Freeze could just research curing his wife along with numerous other people with the disease. But Capitalism says the Bat must fight him and throw him in Arkham.

He also has the fund to invest in poorer neighborhoods and create jobs so that people are not pushed to crime by desperation. It just seems that Bruce Wayne for all his genius does not understand the best way to fight crime.

Tbf, most modern depictions of Bruce Wayne are trauma victims that are just as mentally screwed up as his villains and are aware of that fact. Beating the everliving shit out of clowns while dressed as his fursona is just how Bruce copes.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:42 am

Vapormancer wrote:
Kowani wrote:So he’s perfect for any inner city police department.


That implies they do anything about justice or serious organized crime. Please don't slander fine men like the Punisher with weaklings like that thank you. They can't be bothered to deal with the poors butchering each other.

…Fair point.
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:28 pm

Andsed wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:Batman has the funds so Mr. Freeze could just research curing his wife along with numerous other people with the disease. But Capitalism says the Bat must fight him and throw him in Arkham.

He also has the fund to invest in poorer neighborhoods and create jobs so that people are not pushed to crime by desperation. It just seems that Bruce Wayne for all his genius does not understand the best way to fight crime.


I am fairly certain Bruce Wayne has bought out slums and redeveloped them into luxury condos.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:55 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Andsed wrote:He also has the fund to invest in poorer neighborhoods and create jobs so that people are not pushed to crime by desperation. It just seems that Bruce Wayne for all his genius does not understand the best way to fight crime.


I am fairly certain Bruce Wayne has bought out slums and redeveloped them into luxury condos.

Without lower class thugs to beat up he'd get out of shape.
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:21 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:
I am fairly certain Bruce Wayne has bought out slums and redeveloped them into luxury condos.

Without lower class thugs to beat up he'd get out of shape.


I now have the urge to right a batman comic where Batman is the evil madman. Bruce Wayne is a controversial real estate developer known for buying high crime areas and Batman is his alter ego that pushes criminals into areas he wants to develop driving the price so low Bruce Wayne can buy it for a song. Then once Bruce buys the property Batman appears and drives the Criminals out allowing Bruce to attract investment and huge profit.

The Jack Napier ("Joker") is a social worker, that does stand up comedy as a side job, who has almost pieced together the truth when Bruce bribed a judge to have locked up in an asylum.

Harley Quin is a therapist in a committed relationship with Biologist Dr. Pamela Lillian Isley (Poison Ivy), that Bruce has stripped of her license (on the grounds of sex with a patient) to keep her from meeting with her patient the Joker and piecing together the truth about Batman.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:26 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Without lower class thugs to beat up he'd get out of shape.


I now have the urge to right a batman comic where Batman is the evil madman. Bruce Wayne is a controversial real estate developer known for buying high crime areas and Batman is his alter ego that pushes criminals into areas he wants to develop driving the price so low Bruce Wayne can buy it for a song. Then once Bruce buys the property Batman appears and drives the Criminals out allowing Bruce to attract investment and huge profit.

The Jack Napier ("Joker") is a social worker, that does stand up comedy as a side job, who has almost pieced together the truth when Bruce bribed a judge to have locked up in an asylum.

Harley Quin is a therapist in a committed relationship with Biologist Dr. Pamela Lillian Isley (Poison Ivy), that Bruce has stripped of her license (on the grounds of sex with a patient) to keep her from meeting with her patient the Joker and piecing together the truth about Batman.

Scary enough to be an actual Elseworlds comic book series.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:52 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:If he spent half of his bat-budget updating Arkham Asylum...

He could probably just hire Victor Fries to work in the labs. Buy one fewer Batwings that year, give the money to Fries to work on curing his wife.


Cannot think of a name wrote:No matter what side The Punisher would take, he’d go waaay too far and make matters worse.

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Captain America, totally on the side of the protesters. Would give solemn speeches about liberty to police trying to fire rubber bullets and gas at protesters.
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I can't help feeling that the thread is drifting.
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