US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread II

[Neutraligon]

Gravlen already told you, reason is a highly factual right wing leaning news source.

So I am not going to get any credit from anyone on this site for including this leftist site:

Feds send outside agitators to escalate confilict in Portland:
https://reason.com/2020/07/20/feds-send ... -portland/

I read the link, there is nothing right wing on this link. I am going to the RP forums for awhile.

Because that is not a leftist site.

[Greater Miami Shores]

So I am not going to get any credit from anyone on this site for including this leftist site:

Feds send outside agitators to escalate confilict in Portland:
https://reason.com/2020/07/20/feds-send ... -portland/

I read the link, there is nothing right wing on this link. I am going to the RP forums for awhile.

Because that is not a leftist site.

ok as I said I did not know it. But the link still does not defend the right wing point of view.

[Cannot think of a name]

Batman has always been not only 'pro police' but the mythology of the police, like he's the ideal of everyone who's cracked a skull and then wrote 'fell' on the police report. He's the embodiment of that idea that if it weren't for people's pesky rights and the restrictions on the use of power and surveillance, one determined man can really do something about this crime problem. When the GPD wants to violate the rights of someone they turn on the ol' Batsymbol and then go "well, he doesn't work for us..."

I never liked the Batman gay thing because it tacitly relies on the specious relationship between homosexuality and pedophilia (running around with his boy 'ward') rather than normalizing mentorship or male guardianship as anything other than problematic. But that's a threadjack of a threadjack...

It’s… Batman

Hot take.

[Neutraligon]

Because that is not a leftist site.

ok as I said I did not know it. But the link still does not defend the right wing point of view.

The point being if right wing news sources are so varied imagine what those that lean left are saying. (By the way reason seems to be right leaning libertarian).

[Greater Miami Shores]

ok as I said I did not know it. But the link still does not defend the right wing point of view.

The point being if right wing news sources are so varied imagine what those that lean left are saying. (By the way reason seems to be right leaning libertarian).

I can imagine, of this I have no doubt. I keep repeating like the broken record that I am, the Right spins it to the right and the left spins it to the left. and I still get criticized by leftists for posting this, a leftist person, I don't remember who, had the nerve to chose for me which sources I should link to and quote from, decided by the leftist person who strongly disagrees with me, proving another one of my points.

[Neutraligon]

The point being if right wing news sources are so varied imagine what those that lean left are saying. (By the way reason seems to be right leaning libertarian).

I can imagine, of this I have no doubt. I keep repeating like the broken record that I am, the Right spins it to the right and the left spins it to the left. and I still get criticized by leftists for posting this, a leftist person, I don't remember who, had the nerve to chose for me which sources I should link to and quote from, decided by the leftist person who strongly disagrees with me, proving another one of my points.

...You where the one that chose the 3 sources... And the point was that even with a right wing spin, people have an issue with what Trump is doing.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I can imagine, of this I have no doubt. I keep repeating like the broken record that I am, the Right spins it to the right and the left spins it to the left. and I still get criticized by leftists for posting this, a leftist person, I don't remember who, had the nerve to chose for me which sources I should link to and quote from, decided by the leftist person who strongly disagrees with me, proving another one of my points.

...You where the one that chose the 3 sources... And the point was that even with a right wing spin, people have an issue with what Trump is doing.

Yes, again I am forced to repeat myself like the broken record I am, a bad habit I have. I did not know the 3rd choice was a right wing libertarian site, but the headline and the link does not support the right wing view. Many persons have an issue with what Trump is doing. But as I keep pointing out to them and keep getting insulted with personal comments that are not actionable, but are insults, there are persons who strongly disagree with them, but it seems like their is no arguing with them about it. I don't do this to them. The way they post it sounds like I am wrong and they are right every time, and their is arguing about it. I know most of us Republicans strongly disagree with them. I know many of us ignore these 4 threads for those reasons. I have tried to increase right wing participation on these threads without success. Perhaps I should do the same. Not for their benefit, for my benefit. Nothing phases me except this, I consider very disrespectful of other persons different views. This is my Kryptonite. Certain persons have posted black Republicans and supporters of President Trump are mentally ill persons, and their is no arguing with them about it. They seem to want me to agree with them. Thank you for this chance to express my views. Peace over and out.

[Paleoconservative Nationalists]

They aren't race riots. Race riots are interethnic violence while this is against the police.

The roots of these protests and the very basis is inherent discontent with the concept of diversity in America. This kind of polarization will most definitely result in some of the worst civil unrest since the 60s.

We've already got black militias going out in Georgia and forcing whites to pay reparations to them, and people calling for "the white folk" to be shot. I could go on.

It is my belief that the only solution to the American problem is Balkanization. I see no future in which whites and blacks can peacefully coexist in the same nation. The diversity experiment has failed.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I just found this video from the Chicago Police Department. The video is not very clear at the start but gets better as it goes on. At least two black American cop talks on the video. You can see the protestors throwing stuff at the cops. The Chicago Police department claims violence against the Police. I used to live in Chicago. Just saying, I think I saw the communist flag of Cuba flown by one of the protestors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1VdhQb ... _rel_pause

[Gormwood]

Wait, I thought cops admired The Punisher...

[Greater Miami Shores]

Wait, I thought cops admired The Punisher...

Where did you get this idea from? What do you mean by the Punisher? This has not been my personal experience with cops. I know a few good American cops that care.

[Vassenor]

They aren't race riots. Race riots are interethnic violence while this is against the police.

The roots of these protests and the very basis is inherent discontent with the concept of diversity in America. This kind of polarization will most definitely result in some of the worst civil unrest since the 60s.

We've already got black militias going out in Georgia and forcing whites to pay reparations to them, and people calling for "the white folk" to be shot. I could go on.

It is my belief that the only solution to the American problem is Balkanization. I see no future in which whites and blacks can peacefully coexist in the same nation. The diversity experiment has failed.

Calling for ethnic cleansing. Everybody drink.

[Genivaria]

They aren't race riots. Race riots are interethnic violence while this is against the police.

The roots of these protests and the very basis is inherent discontent with the concept of diversity in America. This kind of polarization will most definitely result in some of the worst civil unrest since the 60s.

We've already got black militias going out in Georgia and forcing whites to pay reparations to them, and people calling for "the white folk" to be shot. I could go on.

It is my belief that the only solution to the American problem is Balkanization. I see no future in which whites and blacks can peacefully coexist in the same nation. The diversity experiment has failed.

No we don't.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

See how different medias spin the same issues to their political views:

Report: Trump Readies Federal Response to Homicide-Ridden Chicago
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... n-chicago/

You know what's wrong with that article?

All of the actual news is directly from the Chicago Tribune.

Now there's nothing wrong with the Chicago Tribune.
In fact, it's the major newspaper of the city the news is happening in.
But it looks to me like it has a paywall, which will cut in after some number of visits by you or me.
Bummer.

Still, if you're really interested in the story, and you can see all the best bits come from Chicago Tribune, follow the link in the article (also below) and don't worry if it look long. Just start reading and stop when you have enough.

Then compare to the Breitbart version.

I'm not speaking rhetorically. You asked us to read three sources and compare them, so it's the least you could do to indulge me by reading TWO sources and comparing them. If the Brietbart version comes off badly from the comparison, don't blame me.

Breitbart version

Chicago Tribune version

[Genivaria]

See how different medias spin the same issues to their political views:

Report: Trump Readies Federal Response to Homicide-Ridden Chicago
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... n-chicago/

You know what's wrong with that article?

All of the actual news is directly from the Chicago Tribune.

Now there's nothing wrong with the Chicago Tribune.
In fact, it's the major newspaper of the city the news is happening in.
But it looks to me like it has a paywall, which will cut in after some number of visits by you or me.
Bummer.

Still, if you're really interested in the story, and you can see all the best bits come from Chicago Tribune, follow the link in the article (also below) and don't worry if it look long. Just start reading and stop when you have enough.

Then compare to the Breitbart version.

I'm not speaking rhetorically. You asked us to read three sources and compare them, so it's the least you could do to indulge me by reading TWO sources and comparing them. If the Brietbart version comes off badly from the comparison, don't blame me.

Breitbart version

Chicago Tribune version

The latter is obviously more objective, hell the headlines alone reflect that.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

They aren't race riots. Race riots are interethnic violence while this is against the police.

The roots of these protests and the very basis is inherent discontent with the concept of diversity in America. This kind of polarization will most definitely result in some of the worst civil unrest since the 60s.

The people most discontented with the concept of diversity are white nationalists.
Are you saying they're behind the BLM protests?

That is a most innovative take, my good dude!

We've already got black militias going out in Georgia and forcing whites to pay reparations to them, and people calling for "the white folk" to be shot. I could go on.

Oh there's no need. Blacks attacking whites, we get it.
But I want to know, is how do the blacks know which whites are white supremacists?
Do the WS have to wear their full regalia to avoid being beaten up?
Or is there some secret hand gesture?
Or a shibboleth like "Heil!-ly sweet ass, my nigga"?

It is my belief that the only solution to the American problem is Balkanization. I see no future in which whites and blacks can peacefully coexist in the same nation. The diversity experiment has failed.

We can do better than the Balkans.
Canada is right next door, within walking distance, for people who evolved without cars.
I'm sure Canada would welcome some of our people if they could just prove they're a persecuted minority here.

The above post may contain traces of Nut, Tree Nut, Derision, Sarcasm and Irony

[Gravlen]

...all the stuff you posted are from white wing newspapers.

Nice Freudian slip

[Gravlen]

...You where the one that chose the 3 sources... And the point was that even with a right wing spin, people have an issue with what Trump is doing.

Yes, again I am forced to repeat myself like the broken record I am, a bad habit I have. I did not know the 3rd choice was a right wing libertarian site, but the headline and the link does not support the right wing view.

It does, as you've so wonderfully demonstrated. Being opposed to federal authorities abusing power and overreaching is a right wing view, and indeed the view of many libertarians whom are skeptical of this kind of use of state power. Many right wingers are opposed to Trumpism, and you've found some of them.

[Cannot think of a name]

Wait, I thought cops admired The Punisher...

No matter what side The Punisher would take, he’d go waaay too far and make matters worse.

[Purpelia]

The moment a protest turns violent it ceases being a protest and becomes a riot. And riots should be broken up and everyone involved put down.

"... everyone involved put down," you say? I say *** warned for trolling. ***

Why is this warn worthy? What is wrong with the term to "put down"? I mean, putting down is a phrase I have heard a million times in reference to dispersing protests. I think at this point something must be lost in translation.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

"... everyone involved put down," you say? I say *** warned for trolling. ***

Why is this warn worthy? What is wrong with the term to "put down"? I mean, putting down is a phrase I have heard a million times in reference to dispersing protests.

It means to kill. Don't play dumb.

EDIT: Though lacking a knowledge of idioms is a common feature of English As A Second Language posters, still present in many whose English is otherwise excellent (like yourself). You may have grounds to appeal this.

Furthermore, you may know the idiom "put down a protest" quite well, but just not realize it is archaic and almost no-one will recognize it as that.

Sorry that I implied you were being dumb. It occurred to me that "put down a protest" was once entirely acceptable, and it's only in more modern usage that it has solidified as a euphemism for euthanasia of animals. "Put down old Rover" would always mean to kill the dog, but of course sparing the feelings of the family.

Still, "putting down a protest" never was a nice thing. I think their was an old assumption that police would always need to use force, it could always be justified ... so if there are bodies lying on the ground when they're done, it's OK somehow. "They asked for it". So though it still seems offensive, it wasn't meant to be I'm sure. You should appeal.

[Purpelia]

Why is this warn worthy? What is wrong with the term to "put down"? I mean, putting down is a phrase I have heard a million times in reference to dispersing protests.

It means to kill. Don't play dumb.

I did not know that. I will make a note of that for the future.

Objection/question withdrawn.

[Vassenor]

"... everyone involved put down," you say? I say *** warned for trolling. ***

Why is this warn worthy? What is wrong with the term to "put down"? I mean, putting down is a phrase I have heard a million times in reference to dispersing protests. I think at this point something must be lost in translation.

Generally when you're talking about people being put down rather than protest movements it implies you want them killed.

[Kowani]

Wait, I thought cops admired The Punisher...

No matter what side The Punisher would take, he’d go waaay too far and make matters worse.

So he’s perfect for any inner city police department.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

It means to kill. Don't play dumb.

I did not know that. I will make a note of that for the future.

Objection/question withdrawn.

I've changed my mind. Sorry, but I do that rather easily. I just read "put down" my way, and wasn't aware that "put down a protest" used to be perfectly valid idiom. It's archaic now, probably driven out of use by how "put down the horse" has the meaning of kill.

"Put down a protest" still has a sinister note to it, implying bodies on the ground when it's done. This is another way it's archaic, we don't want that to happen every time the police try to suppress a protest. A century ago maybe that was perfectly acceptable.

Still not nice, but not something you'd be warned for. Calling for people's deaths is over the line, but calling for police to use plenty of force on protesters ... I'm really not sure.

I think you have grounds to appeal, at least. If you misused a single word in a way that was offensive, no chance. But an idiom, which does all alternative uses, might be a different matter.

Oh my, I do rattle on. I'd appeal if I were you. Sorry if I implied you were stupid, or speechless, or pretending to be speechless. My own idioms go wrong sometimes too!