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Postby Picairn » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:24 pm

Gormwood wrote:Awww you're trying to have it both ways. If you call one impeachment a coup it should stand that another one is a coup as well unless you're being a selective partisan hack. Come on now, impeaching over a blowjob sounds a lot more sketchy than impeaching over abusing the office to solicit foreign election meddling.

To be fair, Slick Willy was impeached for lying under oath about the blowjob. And lying under oath is a criminal act. If he had admitted about his relationship with Monica instead of saying "I did not have sexual relations with that woman", the worst thing he could get would have been a Congressional censure and a divorce suit from Hillary.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:29 pm

Picairn wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Awww you're trying to have it both ways. If you call one impeachment a coup it should stand that another one is a coup as well unless you're being a selective partisan hack. Come on now, impeaching over a blowjob sounds a lot more sketchy than impeaching over abusing the office to solicit foreign election meddling.

To be fair, Slick Willy was impeached for lying under oath about the blowjob. And lying under oath is a criminal act. If he had admitted about his relationship with Monica instead of saying "I did not have sexual relations with that woman", the worst thing he could get is a Congressional censure and a divorce suit from Hillary.


Detail of fact. Clinton wasn't under oath when he said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

Yes what he did say under oath was a lie and that's a crime. But the contrast you're trying to draw with Trump doesn't stand up, because Trump also committed a crime.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:32 pm

Hey, wouldn't it be sweet if mainstream media all refused to do interviews with the President unless they take an oath at the beginning?
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Postby Gravlen » Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:07 am

Portland police department has warned people to stay away from the Federal Courthouse in downtown Portland, for their own safety, since federal law enforcement have deployed CS gas outside the courthouse. That's what you have to do when federal forces are out of control.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:10 am

Gravlen wrote:Portland police department has warned people to stay away from the Federal Courthouse in downtown Portland, since federal law enforcement have deployed CS gas outside the courthouse. That's what you have to do when federal forces are out of control.


Portland PD are obviously cowards. They should go arrest those rioters. Lock 'em up!
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:23 am

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Gormwood wrote:Maybe he's the one tipping off the Trumpstapo?

Nah, he's just cheering them on alongside Ben Shapiro and... wait for it... Tim Pool.


Tim Pool: I'm a left winger.

Also Tim Pool: *supports right wing bullshit and whatever Trump does*
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:25 am

Gravlen wrote:Portland police department has warned people to stay away from the Federal Courthouse in downtown Portland, for their own safety, since federal law enforcement have deployed CS gas outside the courthouse. That's what you have to do when federal forces are out of control.


Protesters should just keep going there. Go and stand there and say and do nothing and watch the federal law enforcement that lacks self awareness go and make an ass of itself on live TV again.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Gravlen » Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:28 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Portland police department has warned people to stay away from the Federal Courthouse in downtown Portland, since federal law enforcement have deployed CS gas outside the courthouse. That's what you have to do when federal forces are out of control.


Portland PD are obviously cowards. They should go arrest those rioters. Lock 'em up!

I know, but I think it's hard for police officers to arrest federal officers. Crossing that scummy blue line is difficult.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:30 am

Gravlen wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Portland PD are obviously cowards. They should go arrest those rioters. Lock 'em up!

I know, but I think it's hard for police officers to arrest federal officers. Crossing that scummy blue line is difficult.


Since it's 2020 and Trump is "our president," I'm just gonna go ahead and predict than any attempt by Portland PD to arrest federal agents would end in the agents shooting the local police with live ammo, and Trump caping on TV for them the next day.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:30 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Picairn wrote:To be fair, Slick Willy was impeached for lying under oath about the blowjob. And lying under oath is a criminal act. If he had admitted about his relationship with Monica instead of saying "I did not have sexual relations with that woman", the worst thing he could get is a Congressional censure and a divorce suit from Hillary.


Detail of fact. Clinton wasn't under oath when he said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

Yes what he did say under oath was a lie and that's a crime. But the contrast you're trying to draw with Trump doesn't stand up, because Trump also committed a crime.

It takes partisan hackery to hold up lying under oath pertaining to a personal affair to be as equally bad and heinous as abusing the office to pressure a foreign country into smearing a domestic political opponent for an impending election.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:33 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Gravlen wrote:I know, but I think it's hard for police officers to arrest federal officers. Crossing that scummy blue line is difficult.


Since it's 2020 and Trump is "our president," I'm just gonna go ahead and predict than any attempt by Portland PD to arrest federal agents would end in the agents shooting the local police with live ammo, and Trump caping on TV for them the next day.

And Portland PD magically becomes "Antifa BLM thugs," with FOXNews and OANN competing to impress Donald-sempai with their fan fiction.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:36 am

Gravlen wrote:Portland police department has warned people to stay away from the Federal Courthouse in downtown Portland, for their own safety, since federal law enforcement have deployed CS gas outside the courthouse. That's what you have to do when federal forces are out of control.

Ah, but they aren't out of control. This is exactly what Trump wants them doing.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:46 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Gravlen wrote:I know, but I think it's hard for police officers to arrest federal officers. Crossing that scummy blue line is difficult.


Since it's 2020 and Trump is "our president," I'm just gonna go ahead and predict than any attempt by Portland PD to arrest federal agents would end in the agents shooting the local police with live ammo, and Trump caping on TV for them the next day.


Well the city police could use the home ground advantage and put some snipers on the rooftops.

But let's de-escalate. City police could turn up just after the Feds leave, take pictures of any litter or damage done, and send the feds a ticket for littering. Ha, take that!
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:47 am

Ifreann wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Portland police department has warned people to stay away from the Federal Courthouse in downtown Portland, for their own safety, since federal law enforcement have deployed CS gas outside the courthouse. That's what you have to do when federal forces are out of control.

Ah, but they aren't out of control. This is exactly what Trump wants them doing.


Street theatre with CS gas instead of a smoke machine. Show of farce.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:48 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Since it's 2020 and Trump is "our president," I'm just gonna go ahead and predict than any attempt by Portland PD to arrest federal agents would end in the agents shooting the local police with live ammo, and Trump caping on TV for them the next day.


Well the city police could use the home ground advantage and put some snipers on the rooftops.

But let's de-escalate. City police could turn up just after the Feds leave, take pictures of any litter or damage done, and send the feds a ticket for littering. Ha, take that!

To Trump who has yet to pay off the security bill for several cities after holding his masturbation rallies there. Sure.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:52 am

Gormwood wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Well the city police could use the home ground advantage and put some snipers on the rooftops.

But let's de-escalate. City police could turn up just after the Feds leave, take pictures of any litter or damage done, and send the feds a ticket for littering. Ha, take that!

To Trump who has yet to pay off the security bill for several cities after holding his masturbation rallies there. Sure.


It would be legal, and no reason for (whatever agency they are) to seek permission up the chain of command. Basically, it Trump doesn't know about it until after it's done, Trump can't stop them paying up.

I'm thinking a low key and tasteful reveal. Portland PD could put the cheque in a little gold frame and hang it up in headquarters. Then just wait for a picture of it to "leak" ...
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Postby Gravlen » Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:11 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Show of farce.

Good one, I like this one. :p
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:12 am

Gormwood wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Since it's 2020 and Trump is "our president," I'm just gonna go ahead and predict than any attempt by Portland PD to arrest federal agents would end in the agents shooting the local police with live ammo, and Trump caping on TV for them the next day.

And Portland PD magically becomes "Antifa BLM thugs," with FOXNews and OANN competing to impress Donald-sempai with their fan fiction.


They'll take facts the left has pushed and twist them, like how they stole the phrase fake news. They'll say "left wingers ghost skinning as police attacked us."
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:44 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Gormwood wrote:And Portland PD magically becomes "Antifa BLM thugs," with FOXNews and OANN competing to impress Donald-sempai with their fan fiction.


They'll take facts the left has pushed and twist them, like how they stole the phrase fake news. They'll say "left wingers ghost skinning as police attacked us."


I particularly resent propagandists appropriating the factually correct "fake news" label for use against real news they don't like.

We shouldn't try to win the term back though. Switch the tables on them: fake news by the original definition is now Hoax News.
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Postby No State Here » Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:12 am

People who are oppressed vs people who think they’re oppressed
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Notice how only one side is waving the flag of a genocidal country?

Reminds me of this
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:26 am

No State Here wrote:People who are oppressed vs people who think they’re oppressed


Notice how only one side is waving the flag of a genocidal country?

Reminds me of this


So you're fine with US citizens being blackbagged and the federal government trampling all over the state like that?
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Postby Zapato » Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:38 am

No State Here wrote:People who are oppressed vs people who think they’re oppressed


Notice how only one side is waving the flag of a genocidal country?

*Squints in native American*

No?
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Postby Ism » Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:48 am

No State Here wrote:People who are oppressed vs people who think they’re oppressed


Notice how only one side is waving the flag of a genocidal country?

Reminds me of this


Uh, I see the flags of two genocidal countries there buddy.

Also, unironically would find the bottom picture unbearable.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:08 am

No State Here wrote:People who are oppressed vs people who think they’re oppressed

Residents of Portland are being snatched off the streets by unidentified federal agents and detained without charge or cause.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:16 am

No State Here wrote:People who are oppressed vs people who think they’re oppressed


Notice how only one side is waving the flag of a genocidal country?

Reminds me of this

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