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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:32 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
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I can't believe the Los Angeles Public Schools have gotten so bad that the police within the school need all that.

I'm assuming that the rifles are being issued one or two per school on an "in case of active shooter, break glass" basis.

The grenade launchers are because 40mm beanbags are pretty effective at taking down someone armed with a knife or blunt instrument, and Karen doesn't complain as much as she does when you use 9mm FMJ to subdue them.


Why an armored car though? Who's attacking the school?
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Postby Agarntrop » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:34 am

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The only solution to school shootings is to ban schools.

Well, we haven't had any since schools were shut....
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:34 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:I'm assuming that the rifles are being issued one or two per school on an "in case of active shooter, break glass" basis.

The grenade launchers are because 40mm beanbags are pretty effective at taking down someone armed with a knife or blunt instrument, and Karen doesn't complain as much as she does when you use 9mm FMJ to subdue them.


Why an armored car though? Who's attacking the school?

The police, obviously.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:38 am

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The only solution to school shootings is to ban schools.

Well, we haven't had any since schools were shut....


Hey OP, a few of us don't like the thread title.

What's happening are protests with a bit of rioting. Not just "riots"

I also think you could say US instead of American, that gets you characters for a better title!
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Postby Gravlen » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:42 am

The riots died down relatively quickly...

...unless of course you count the police rioting, which lasted a while longer.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:43 am

Gravlen wrote:The riots died down relatively quickly...

...unless of course you count the police rioting, which lasted a while longer.


It's more organized now than it was at first which is why you're seeing less wonton violence. The police however have not become less aggressive and instead are getting worse by the day.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:46 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:I'm assuming that the rifles are being issued one or two per school on an "in case of active shooter, break glass" basis.

The grenade launchers are because 40mm beanbags are pretty effective at taking down someone armed with a knife or blunt instrument, and Karen doesn't complain as much as she does when you use 9mm FMJ to subdue them.


Why an armored car though? Who's attacking the school?

Like I said in the first post, the MRAP is ridiculous. If the situation is bad enough that an armored vehicle is needed, I doubt that the LA Schools Police armored vehicle will be on the scene any faster than an LAPD/LA County Sheriff/CHP armored vehicle.
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Postby -Astoria » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:46 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Gravlen wrote:The riots died down relatively quickly...

...unless of course you count the police rioting, which lasted a while longer.


It's more organized now than it was at first which is why you're seeing less wonton violence. The police however have not become less aggressive and instead are getting worse by the day.

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Postby Purple Rats » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:46 am

They should make police state. Not in a meaning what we are used to, but state only for police. So they can riot and fight with each other and normal people can go on with their lives...

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:56 am

Purple Rats wrote:They should make police state. Not in a meaning what we are used to, but state only for police. So they can riot and fight with each other and normal people can go on with their lives...


A state where everyone is a cop.

Lmao.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:10 am

Purple Rats wrote:They should make police state. Not in a meaning what we are used to, but state only for police. So they can riot and fight with each other and normal people can go on with their lives...


We should find out somehow, which cops are the victims of bullying by other cops. Promote them. And fire the bullies.
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Postby Purple Rats » Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:21 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Purple Rats wrote:They should make police state. Not in a meaning what we are used to, but state only for police. So they can riot and fight with each other and normal people can go on with their lives...


We should find out somehow, which cops are the victims of bullying by other cops. Promote them. And fire the bullies.


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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:27 am

Before someone comes up in here saying that bullshit about "but da black people violent and white people never do dat," I just wanna tell you that Huntington West Virginia is a real place and not a scary urban legend we tell children to keep them out of the forest.
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby -Astoria » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:37 am

Rojava Free State wrote:Before someone comes up in here saying that bullshit about "but da black people violent and white people never do dat," I just wanna tell you that Huntington West Virginia is a real place and not a scary urban legend we tell children to keep them out of the forest.

Wait, could you please explain?

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:40 am

-Astoria wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Before someone comes up in here saying that bullshit about "but da black people violent and white people never do dat," I just wanna tell you that Huntington West Virginia is a real place and not a scary urban legend we tell children to keep them out of the forest.

Wait, could you please explain?


Three years ago, the city of Huntington was hit by a wave of drug related violence that killed like 20 people. That doesn't seem like alot of people till you consider that Huntington isn't a large city, so the murder rate was through the ceiling. Huntington was like the 4th most dangerous American city at one point. While the crime rate has dropped slightly, it is still a very dangerous and drug infested place and over 90% of the city's residents are white folks. It got so bad in Hungtington that they sent in the national guard.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:49 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
-Astoria wrote:Wait, could you please explain?


Three years ago, the city of Huntington was hit by a wave of drug related violence that killed like 20 people. That doesn't seem like alot of people till you consider that Huntington isn't a large city, so the murder rate was through the ceiling. Huntington was like the 4th most dangerous American city at one point. While the crime rate has dropped slightly, it is still a very dangerous and drug infested place and over 90% of the city's residents are white folks. It got so bad in Hungtington that they sent in the national guard.

https://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/just ... de25d.html

This would make Huntington very unique. Certain characters may point to it as an exception in trends of violence.
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Postby Kassaran » Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:15 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Three years ago, the city of Huntington was hit by a wave of drug related violence that killed like 20 people. That doesn't seem like alot of people till you consider that Huntington isn't a large city, so the murder rate was through the ceiling. Huntington was like the 4th most dangerous American city at one point. While the crime rate has dropped slightly, it is still a very dangerous and drug infested place and over 90% of the city's residents are white folks. It got so bad in Hungtington that they sent in the national guard.

https://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/just ... de25d.html

This would make Huntington very unique. Certain characters may point to it as an exception in trends of violence.

Crime is a class issue, not a race issue. People who can't seem to comprehend that are ghosts of a century-disproven theory regarding this very matter. People complain about rich people in power because the rich have different priorities than the middle-class or the poor. What's worse is when they're allowed free reign over their local areas and people don't realize it.

Police were and are quiet and compliant in letting small businesses and housing for the poor burn because ultimately that's not where they get their paycheck from. They get their paychecks from the wealthy and can receive employment if they get fired from the public sector as a private sector security guard. Private Security is far more lax on 'brutality' laws and for some of the elite, it's preferred that you have dangerous body guards that generally are armed, given that the wealthy rarely trust public sector institutions anyways. Some good examples of this have to do with the police in Seattle standing largely by and letting looters and rioters create the CHAZ.

It's an area where not a lot of money was initially invested by the higher ups in society and so when push came to shove, the police and the greater metropolitan area ceded the territory and has let them run rampant. You can also look at the majority of locations where protests devolved to looting and rioting and see that despite the optics, police counter-action has relaxed once protestors moved away from wealthier locations. Monuments and memorials are classless having open and public access and so police are less likely to want to protect them, but will penalize those they find vandalizing said locations.

My whole take on the matter is let them burn themselves out. The nation has heard their initial protests, but the locations that have turned to looting upon achieving critical mass should just be allowed to move through. Keep police back, off the lines, as they need to be reevaluated and there needs to be serious questions about who is allowed to interact with the public now. If you want to penalize looters and rioters, let the media do the job of simply filming them and track them down later. The FBI and other law enforcement agencies have the resources to do so and plenty of looters and rioters can likely be identified and penalized as appropriate.

No arrests are needed, just mail them a bill for their share of the damages and give them the option, pay up or give names of fellow looters and split the cost with them. We really don't need boots on the ground for the current issue, the cities just try and make themselves look better or worse by doing so, often falling into the latter category.
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Postby Eahland » Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:36 am

Rojava Free State wrote:Before someone comes up in here saying that bullshit about "but da black people violent and white people never do dat," I just wanna tell you that Huntington West Virginia is a real place and not a scary urban legend we tell children to keep them out of the forest.

Whenever bigots start talking about profiling, I just remember a major meth-lab bust in town a while back where the local paper ran photos of the suspects and the cops involved in the bust on the front page, and the only way you could tell the cops from the criminals was the uniforms. All of them white, all of them the same high-and-tight haircut, all of them the same "I spend more time working out than I do thinking" build.
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Postby Jedi Council » Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:08 pm

Atlanta Police shoot and kill Richard Brooks in a Wendy's Drive through.

It appears that Brooks was sleeping in the drive through, and failed a sobriety test. He resisted arrest, and attempted to grab the Cops taser when it was pointed at him. This led to police fatally shooting him.

GBI is investigating, apparently there is video of the altercation.

While I dont have enough information to make a judgement call just yet, this clearly shows that US cops are far to quick to pull the trigger. I find it hard to believe that two police officers had no other recourse in this situation than to fire their weapon.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:37 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Three years ago, the city of Huntington was hit by a wave of drug related violence that killed like 20 people. That doesn't seem like alot of people till you consider that Huntington isn't a large city, so the murder rate was through the ceiling. Huntington was like the 4th most dangerous American city at one point. While the crime rate has dropped slightly, it is still a very dangerous and drug infested place and over 90% of the city's residents are white folks. It got so bad in Hungtington that they sent in the national guard.

https://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/just ... de25d.html

This would make Huntington very unique. Certain characters may point to it as an exception in trends of violence.


It isn't though. Several of West Virginia's largest cities are very dangerous and West Virginia is mostly white.
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Postby Rusozak » Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:40 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Purple Rats wrote:They should make police state. Not in a meaning what we are used to, but state only for police. So they can riot and fight with each other and normal people can go on with their lives...


A state where everyone is a cop.

Lmao.


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