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Are the police racist?

Yes
325
40%
No
379
47%
Other (explain below)
107
13%
 
Total votes : 811

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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:39 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Derek Chauvin is literally the root of all evil. At this rate he probably also:

•Did 9/11
•Was the architect of the holocaust
•Shot John Kennedy
•Sank the Titanic
•Invented incels
•Lied to George Bush about there being WMDs in Iraq
•Smuggled conflict diamonds into the US
•Shot down Amelia Earhart's plane
•Helped run the Afrikaaner death camps
•Served as a general in Genghis Khan's army


You forgot he killed Jesus because " that guy looked arab"

Derek Chauvin climbed up the cross to kneel on Jesus' neck.
He/Him

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Postby Ors Might » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:42 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Ors Might wrote:For an organization that supposedly fears for their lives, they sure do seem determined to make as many enemies as physically possible.


I dont see the link between cops fearing for their lives and them tasing two college students in Atlanta after smashing their car windows out.

Clearly those students were guilty of existing in front of an officer of the law.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:42 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
You forgot he killed Jesus because " that guy looked arab"

Derek Chauvin climbed up the cross to kneel on Jesus' neck.


Derek Chauvin killed Julius Caesar
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:43 am

Ors Might wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
I dont see the link between cops fearing for their lives and them tasing two college students in Atlanta after smashing their car windows out.

Clearly those students were guilty of existing in front of an officer of the law.


The students: drive

Atlanta PD: IT'S GO TIME
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Postby Ors Might » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:44 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Clearly those students were guilty of existing in front of an officer of the law.


The students: drive

Atlanta PD: IT'S GO TIME

We jest but I would not be surprised if a cop was so paranoid that they assume someone coming near them is a threat in some way.
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Postby SangMar » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:48 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:https://imgur.com/gallery/HVO5lyE

Chauvin was involved in election fraud in 2016 and 2018....


Derek Chauvin is literally the root of all evil. At this rate he probably also:

•Did 9/11
•Was the architect of the holocaust
•Shot John Kennedy
•Sank the Titanic
•Invented incels
•Lied to George Bush about there being WMDs in Iraq
•Smuggled conflict diamonds into the US
•Shot down Amelia Earhart's plane
•Helped run the Afrikaaner death camps
•Served as a general in Genghis Khan's army


A minor correction here - the Afrikaner camps were not death camps. They were holding camps, to deprive the Boer guerrillas of support in their fight against Britain - which through inaction and poor planning led to a lot of deaths. But no, they did not have any apparatus within them with which it was meant to kill the populace.

Inb4 - but they’re the first camps ever! They inspired the Nazis! No. They were created around the same time as the concentration camps in the Philippines during the Philippine-American War. Though never nation knew of the other’s, they both followed the same basic premise.

Which the Nazis then took. And made a whole level more horrific - like the original camps weren’t bad enough.
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Postby SangMar » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:50 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Clearly those students were guilty of existing in front of an officer of the law.


The students: drive

Atlanta PD: IT'S GO TIME


Have you seen the body camera footage? It’s been released and all.

Literally, the students drive off - get stuck in traffic and the cop, for no fucking reason spots them from at least 30 metres away, and sprints to their car for no fucking reason. Which is when it starts. Though, it should be said another unit were already yeeting the other student from the vehicle.

Just ridiculous.
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Postby Ors Might » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:51 am

SangMar wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
The students: drive

Atlanta PD: IT'S GO TIME


Have you seen the body camera footage? It’s been released and all.

Literally, the students drive off - get stuck in traffic and the cop, for no fucking reason spots them from at least 30 metres away, and sprints to their car for no fucking reason. Which is when it starts. Though, it should be said another unit were already yeeting the other student from the vehicle.

Just ridiculous.

Are we certain that the cops aren’t accelerationists?
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Postby Hellslayer » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:57 am

My point is that people hear these stories of police brutality and they make the generalisation that the whole police force is like that. They don't stop to consider the policemen who are helpful, who do work to stop racism and who are on the receiving end of violence and anger because of the reputation of the police force, often down to a few extremist acts. Have some sympathy for your average police officer who has nothing to do with brutality or murder, who just wanted to help protect YOU from crime. It's not their fault. They aren't necessarily racists or excessively brutal.
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My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
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Finds and shall find me unafraid.

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How charged with punishments the scroll,
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Postby SangMar » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:58 am

Ors Might wrote:
SangMar wrote:
Have you seen the body camera footage? It’s been released and all.

Literally, the students drive off - get stuck in traffic and the cop, for no fucking reason spots them from at least 30 metres away, and sprints to their car for no fucking reason. Which is when it starts. Though, it should be said another unit were already yeeting the other student from the vehicle.

Just ridiculous.

Are we certain that the cops aren’t accelerationists?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=96QsoZc6TDA

Here’s the bodycam from the side I’m describing. You’ll probably have the other side on the videos sidebar. Like, the cop even says the guy can’t go anyway, when he’s running to him. Yet he yeets him from the car for no reason.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:58 am

Caracasus wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:And I bet they won't put it back up again.


Near where I used to live there was a guy who lived in this very old house. Not quite tudor but only a century or so off. Anyway, the local council finally got round to slapping a preservation order on it, but trouble was it was after he bought the place and before he had time to rip out and replace the astoundingly ugly 70's formica kitchen. He's probably stuck with it forever.

Well, I'm hoping the local council or whoever has jurisdiction over the statue has the sense not to put it back up.
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Postby SangMar » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:58 am

Hellslayer wrote:My point is that people hear these stories of police brutality and they make the generalisation that the whole police force is like that. They don't stop to consider the policemen who are helpful, who do work to stop racism and who are on the receiving end of violence and anger because of the reputation of the police force, often down to a few extremist acts. Have some sympathy for your average police officer who has nothing to do with brutality or murder, who just wanted to help protect YOU from crime. It's not their fault. They aren't necessarily racists or excessively brutal.


I get this. I’ve been making this distinction for 500 plus pages.

Yet, I’m nuanced enough to criticise bad cops too.
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Postby Ors Might » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:59 am

Hellslayer wrote:My point is that people hear these stories of police brutality and they make the generalisation that the whole police force is like that. They don't stop to consider the policemen who are helpful, who do work to stop racism and who are on the receiving end of violence and anger because of the reputation of the police force, often down to a few extremist acts. Have some sympathy for your average police officer who has nothing to do with brutality or murder, who just wanted to help protect YOU from crime. It's not their fault. They aren't necessarily racists or excessively brutal.

The entirety of the police don’t have to do these things in order for them to be complicit. Not speaking up about it makes them just as bad.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:02 pm

Hellslayer wrote:In actual fact, very often police fear being attacked rather than dish out the violence. They sometimes have to go around in go about in groups to protect themselves from danger. People don't respect the police as much as they should, and then start asking the police to be kinder to them. Respect goes both ways, you know.


If they don't wanna fear being attacked they should get a new job.
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Postby Caracasus » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:04 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
Near where I used to live there was a guy who lived in this very old house. Not quite tudor but only a century or so off. Anyway, the local council finally got round to slapping a preservation order on it, but trouble was it was after he bought the place and before he had time to rip out and replace the astoundingly ugly 70's formica kitchen. He's probably stuck with it forever.

Well, I'm hoping the local council or whoever has jurisdiction over the statue has the sense not to put it back up.


Depends I guess. I mean you'd hope not. Hell, if they do it could be a bit of an annual tradition to knock it in the river. Like Weather Underground when they kept fucking up that statue to the police in Chicago, the city kept repairing it.... and so on.

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Postby SangMar » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:05 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Hellslayer wrote:In actual fact, very often police fear being attacked rather than dish out the violence. They sometimes have to go around in go about in groups to protect themselves from danger. People don't respect the police as much as they should, and then start asking the police to be kinder to them. Respect goes both ways, you know.


If they don't wanna fear being attacked they should get a new job.


Or they should come to the UK, where they get attacked for doing fuck all.
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Postby Alt-Right Death Squads » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:06 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Alt-Right Death Squads wrote:He does a good enough job for what he does.

While true, the problem remains that what he does isn’t good.
Although I personally understand why people generally hate fox, I highly recommend watching cnn or msnbc; you'll soon learn to appreciate the honesty of "commentators" on fox as they don't try to disguise propaganda and infotainment.

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Postby Alt-Right Death Squads » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:09 pm

SangMar wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
I mean, I'd rather be hung than lethally injected.


I’d rather go in the gas chamber.

"we only did what the Jews asked for"

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Postby SangMar » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:09 pm

Alt-Right Death Squads wrote:
SangMar wrote:
I’d rather go in the gas chamber.

"we only did what the Jews asked for"


:p
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:11 pm

Caracasus wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Well, I'm hoping the local council or whoever has jurisdiction over the statue has the sense not to put it back up.


Depends I guess. I mean you'd hope not. Hell, if they do it could be a bit of an annual tradition to knock it in the river. Like Weather Underground when they kept fucking up that statue to the police in Chicago, the city kept repairing it.... and so on.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather ... al_bombing

It makes me wonder what'll happen to the plinth that his statue was on.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:11 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Hanged? Yikes


I mean, I'd rather be hung than lethally injected.


I don't see what being well endowed has to do with anything, but okay.

badum ts
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Postby Alt-Right Death Squads » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:13 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Alt-Right Death Squads wrote:The reason we have police isn't just to enforce the law but also to protect rights. Mob justice will not be nearly as fair as you might imagine, it was the study of justice and the law are so prolific in this country.
The police are doing an absolutely fantastic job of protecting people's constitutional rights these days.
There is some room for improvement, obviously, but it will always be easier to fix a broken system then build a new one.

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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:14 pm

Alt-Right Death Squads wrote:
Cisairse wrote:The police are doing an absolutely fantastic job of protecting people's constitutional rights these days.
There is some room for improvement, obviously, but it will always be easier to fix a broken system then build a new one.


Well that's just blatantly untrue.
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Postby SangMar » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:15 pm

Alt-Right Death Squads wrote:
Cisairse wrote:The police are doing an absolutely fantastic job of protecting people's constitutional rights these days.
There is some room for improvement, obviously, but it will always be easier to fix a broken system then build a new one.


RUSURE

Like, really?
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Postby Ors Might » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:22 pm

Alt-Right Death Squads wrote:
Ors Might wrote:While true, the problem remains that what he does isn’t good.
Although I personally understand why people generally hate fox, I highly recommend watching cnn or msnbc; you'll soon learn to appreciate the honesty of "commentators" on fox as they don't try to disguise propaganda and infotainment.

Not really. I’m perfectly capable of despising both in equal measure.
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