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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:31 am

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La xinga wrote:I think there was a source that said George F. had COVID, is it true, or a false rumor?

The thing you just made up is a false rumor. And you know that, because you just made it up.

He didn't make it up and it was true. So...
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:32 am

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Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
If it was true we'd know it already. There were two autopsies, probably both checked for covid-19.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/health/g ... index.html

Is CNN trustworthy?
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I suppose it's possible swabs were taken when George was autopsied, and the test has only just been completed?

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Postby Nakena » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:32 am

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It could go futher.

Seems to be winding down


I wouldn be surprised. Unless it reignites for some reason it may already have experienced it's peak on the night of 1st to 2nd january. The decisive phase appears to be over.

The protesting, rioting and looting has been quite intense, most people probably experience fatigue at this point too.

I except frequent demonstrations though for the future and a generally turbulent political climate in the future. A lot of people who weren't into politics are now gotten dragged in. Like a lot of the people in general. This goes beyond partisanship or the regular political sphere. Thats something new, like an entire additional part of society and the population been having activated.

They will not forget themself, their friends being beaten up by police or seeing those things on national TV. Or the looting. etc
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:32 am

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No, it's not. Would you shove an old man? I doubt you would just like most people would not. But this cop thought that was okay

And why wouldn't you even try to help the man you've just injured afterwards?


Not trying to defend the cops but I have enough first aid training to know that anything I do to help a person with an injury like that would be wrong.

Best to leave head trauma to actual medics and in the video I can hear one of the cops saying that EMS are already at the scene.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:33 am

La xinga wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
If it was true we'd know it already. There were two autopsies, probably both checked for covid-19.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/health/g ... index.html

Is CNN trustworthy?


Tested positive in April and at autopsy. I'm sold.

It doesn't really make a difference to anything, but OK.
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:35 am

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Tested positive in April and at autopsy. I'm sold.

It doesn't really make a difference to anything, but OK.

It's possible that it was easier for the cop to kill him if his respiratory system was somewhat failing.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:36 am

Nakena wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Seems to be winding down


I wouldn be surprised. Unless it reignites for some reason it may already have experienced it's peak on the night of 1st to 2nd january. The decisive phase appears to be over.

The protesting, rioting and looting has been quite intense, most people probably experience fatigue at this point too.

I except frequent demonstrations though for the future and a generally turbulent political climate in the future. A lot of people who weren't into politics are now gotten dragged in. Like a lot of the people in general. This goes beyond partisanship or the regular political sphere. Thats something new, like an entire additional part of society and the population been having activated.

They will not forget themself, their friends being beaten up by police or seeing those things on national TV. Or the looting. etc


You say a lot of people.

Would you hazard a guess how many went out to protest?
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:39 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Seems to be winding down


Do you mean protester numbers are going down?
Or incidents of rioting/police brutality, are going down?

I see them as rather different things.

Seems like the riots are going down
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Postby Skyhooked » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:40 am

La xinga wrote:It's possible that it was easier for the cop to kill him if his respiratory system was somewhat failing


Didn't give him a right to do the chokehold on an already handcuffed and subdued dude for gods know how much. If only this cop acted more civilzied and put restrained suspect in his car... it wouldn't end like this.

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Postby Snakeden » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:41 am

Rojava Free State wrote:Like yikes, what are these guys gonna start doing when they see people posting about it online?


I've seen one news article now about someone being visited after posting video of a protest, and one video reportedly of a visit from cops over having posted about a protest happening later. Also seen that a reporter was pulled over for investigating something police-related. I imagine that's what they're gonna keep doing, at a bare minimum.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:41 am

La xinga wrote:
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And that makes a difference how?

It was easier for the cop to KILL HIM when his respiratory system was already failing.


I guess you're making excuses for the brutal cop who continued to kneel on his neck after he was unconscious.

Nah. The prosecutor would know this when they brought murder 3, and they'd certainly know it when they upped it to murder 2

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Postby Picairn » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:41 am

George Floyd having the COVID-19 virus is real, guys. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minn ... SKBN23B1HX
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Postby American Pere Housh » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:41 am

If you are a business owner anywhere there are riots, protect your business with a gun as it deter thugs from destroying it. Wher I live, those that own jewelry store are removing all jewelry from the cases at night for fear of rioters breaking in and stealing them.
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Postby Picairn » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:43 am

American Pere Housh wrote:If you are a business owner anywhere there are riots, protect your business with a gun as it deter thugs from destroying it. Wher I live, those that own jewelry store are removing all jewelry from the cases at night for fear of rioters breaking in and stealing them.

It's like the 1992 LA Riots all over again.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:43 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Nakena wrote:
I wouldn be surprised. Unless it reignites for some reason it may already have experienced it's peak on the night of 1st to 2nd january. The decisive phase appears to be over.

The protesting, rioting and looting has been quite intense, most people probably experience fatigue at this point too.

I except frequent demonstrations though for the future and a generally turbulent political climate in the future. A lot of people who weren't into politics are now gotten dragged in. Like a lot of the people in general. This goes beyond partisanship or the regular political sphere. Thats something new, like an entire additional part of society and the population been having activated.

They will not forget themself, their friends being beaten up by police or seeing those things on national TV. Or the looting. etc


You say a lot of people.

Would you hazard a guess how many went out to protest?

A few million
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Postby American Pere Housh » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:43 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
La xinga wrote:It was easier for the cop to KILL HIM when his respiratory system was already failing.


I guess you're making excuses for the brutal cop who continued to kneel on his neck after he was unconscious.

Nah. The prosecutor would know this when they brought murder 3, and they'd certainly know it when they upped it to murder 2

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He will end up doing a plea deal for manslaughter more than likely.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:44 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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Do you mean protester numbers are going down?
Or incidents of rioting/police brutality, are going down?

I see them as rather different things.

Seems like the riots are going down


A good thing in my books. More protest, less riot, no looting.

Normally I wouldn't put much stock in protests to effect political change. But it's an election year, so maybe.
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Postby Skyhooked » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:44 am

American Pere Housh wrote:If you are a business owner anywhere there are riots, protect your business with a gun as it deter thugs from destroying it. Wher I live, those that own jewelry store are removing all jewelry from the cases at night for fear of rioters breaking in and stealing them.


Or... direct those looters to competing businesses, ha! I guess some not-so-good owners might do that somehow.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:44 am

Picairn wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:If you are a business owner anywhere there are riots, protect your business with a gun as it deter thugs from destroying it. Wher I live, those that own jewelry store are removing all jewelry from the cases at night for fear of rioters breaking in and stealing them.

It's like the 1992 LA Riots all over again.

Pretty much. It will be Rooftop Koreans again.
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Postby Picairn » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:48 am

American Pere Housh wrote:Pretty much. It will be Rooftop Koreans again.

Don't forget black business owners are also affected. https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/bla ... c8h6ecbjN/
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:48 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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You say a lot of people.

Would you hazard a guess how many went out to protest?

A few million


(!)

If a half of those never voted before, a million new voters ought to be enough to make a political ripple.

Unless they vote Green :lol:
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Postby SangMar » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:48 am

Skyhooked wrote:
La xinga wrote:It's possible that it was easier for the cop to kill him if his respiratory system was somewhat failing


Didn't give him a right to do the chokehold on an already handcuffed and subdued dude for gods know how much. If only this cop acted more civilzied and put restrained suspect in his car... it wouldn't end like this.

As far as I know and belive, law is above race.


Can we get a source on the chokehold? As I’m picturing a martial arts technique - and not what George Floyd’s killers did. There wasn’t any damage to his neck or I believe, loss of blood to the brain either. And while there was a loss of oxygen, that was through positional asphyxia, not a chokehold.

I’m not doubting the cops killed him - I just don’t see how what they did was a chokehold. Though, the definition could well be any action which restricts blood or air flow by one person to another.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:49 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
It could go futher.

Seems to be winding down

Yep, not nearly as many protestors out there now as over the last weekend
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Postby Skyhooked » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:49 am

Picairn wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:Pretty much. It will be Rooftop Koreans again.

Don't forget black business owners are also affected. https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/bla ... c8h6ecbjN/


So much for race solidarity... Indeed greed is one of the seven deadly sins.
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