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Are the police racist?

Yes
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No
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Other (explain below)
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US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread II

Postby Agarntrop » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:17 am

THREAD 1

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On May 25, 4 policemen killed George Floyd, who was suspected of forgery. mostly through the process of kneeling on his neck while he pleaded to being unable to breathe. The 4 officers have since been fired. Floyd was unarmed at the time, and died several minutes later at the hospital.

Now, protesters marching against police brutality have gotten into clashes, some violent with police officers.

A video of the arrest can be found here.

At least one person is alleged to have been shot, though the identity of the shooter remains unclear, and another seems to have burned to death in a liquor store.


Outside of Minneapolis, there are also protests in St. Paul, Denver, Chicago, Columbus, and LA.


A related protest has broken out in Louisville, over the death of Breonna Taylor, with 7 shot.

Trump has Threatened to use the National Guard.


Derek Chauvin, the guy who actually had his knee on Floyd’s neck has been arrested and charged with murder.

The charge for D. Chauvin has been upgraded to second degree murder., and the other 3 officers have been charged with aiding and abetting.


What is your standpoint?

The officers arresting George Floyd should not have been charged with murder. - 4%

The officers should be charged with murder, but rioting is unjustified. - 44%

Rioting is justified, looting is not. - 33%

Both rioting and looting are justified. - 19% 
The police should be.....
Abolished - 16%

Defunded -12%

Have its funding reduced - 20%

Privatised - 5%

None of the above - 47%


Credit to Kowani for the OP.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:19 am

They aren't race riots. Race riots are interethnic violence while this is against the police.
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Postby Agarntrop » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:19 am

Rojava Free State wrote:They aren't race riots. Race riots are interethnic violence while this is against the police.

Duly noted
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:20 am

Yeah, that's better.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Nakena » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:20 am

I believe it takes increasingly characteristics of a proto-revolutionary situation.

(and no that doesnt means it has or will or is even likely to go further there, but the signs are there on the wall)

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:21 am

Nakena wrote:I believe it takes increasingly characteristics of a proto-revolutionary situation.

(and no that doesnt means it has or will or is even likely to go further there, but the signs are there on the wall)


It could go futher.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:21 am

I don’t know if it was mentioned in the last thread but there was a dance party in Atlanta with the National Guard and Police joining in.

Also the mayor and chief of police joined in and we only had 6 arrests
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:22 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Nakena wrote:I believe it takes increasingly characteristics of a proto-revolutionary situation.

(and no that doesnt means it has or will or is even likely to go further there, but the signs are there on the wall)


It could go futher.

Seems to be winding down
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:22 am

The brutality that pervades in the police has been well and truly unmasked during these protests, if anyone was under any illusions that it wasn't the case.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:23 am

The New California Republic wrote:The brutality that pervades in the police has been well and truly unmasked during these protests, if anyone was under any illusions that it wasn't the case.


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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:24 am

For completeness sake, could you include the following items?
- Floyd was innocent of the forgery accusation. He did serve 5 years in prison for aggravated assault in the past, it is unclear if the cops knew this.

- Trump abused the situation to violently clear out peaceful protesters and remove a priest from their church so he could have a nice photo-op with a Bible in various positions

- In the weeks before Floyds death multiple cases of inequal treatment of blacks by law enforcement and society, including the murder of Arbery, dominated the news.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:24 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Nakena wrote:I believe it takes increasingly characteristics of a proto-revolutionary situation.

(and no that doesnt means it has or will or is even likely to go further there, but the signs are there on the wall)


It could go futher.


The longer it lasts, the more likely is that the most determined, ideologized and most importantly best organized groups take the lead in the process.

It's too early to call it who it is, but theres for sure lot of political groups who see this as their golden hour of opportunity. From far-left to far-right.

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Postby La xinga » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:25 am

I think there was a source that said George F. had COVID, is it true, or a false rumor?
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:26 am

The Alma Mater wrote:For completeness sake, could you include the following items?
- Floyd was innocent of the forgery accusation. He did serve 5 years in prison for aggravated assault in the past, it is unclear if the cops knew this.

- Trump abused the situation to violently clear out peaceful protesters and remove a priest from their church so he could have a nice photo-op with a Bible in various positions

- In the weeks before Floyds death multiple cases of inequal treatment of blacks by law enforcement and society, including the murder of Arbery, dominated the news.


Was it AA? Some articles I've read said it was robbery.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:26 am

La xinga wrote:I think there was a source that said George F. had COVID, is it true, or a false rumor?


And that makes a difference how?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:27 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
It could go futher.

Seems to be winding down


Do you mean protester numbers are going down?
Or incidents of rioting/police brutality, are going down?

I see them as rather different things.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:27 am

Vassenor wrote:
La xinga wrote:I think there was a source that said George F. had COVID, is it true, or a false rumor?


And that makes a difference how?


He just exposed the dumb bastard who had his knee on him who likely exposed it to other people.
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Postby Dogmeat » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:28 am

La xinga wrote:I think there was a source that said George F. had COVID, is it true, or a false rumor?

The thing you just made up is a false rumor. And you know that, because you just made it up.
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Postby La xinga » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:28 am

Vassenor wrote:
La xinga wrote:I think there was a source that said George F. had COVID, is it true, or a false rumor?


And that makes a difference how?

It was easier for the cop to KILL HIM when his respiratory system was already failing.
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Postby Caracasus » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:29 am

La xinga wrote:I think there was a source that said George F. had COVID, is it true, or a false rumor?


According to Snopes, the official coroner's report said he had it, however he appeared to be an asymptomatic carrier.

https://www.snopes.com/ap/2020/06/04/au ... ronavirus/
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Postby La xinga » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:29 am

Dogmeat wrote:
La xinga wrote:I think there was a source that said George F. had COVID, is it true, or a false rumor?

The thing you just made up is a false rumor. And you know that, because you just made it up.

I didn't make it up, I heard it, and I'm asking NSG cuz I thought they were smart, but you could have answered me better, because no, I didn't make it up.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:30 am

La xinga wrote:I think there was a source that said George F. had COVID, is it true, or a false rumor?


If it was true we'd know it already. There were two autopsies, probably both checked for covid-19.
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Postby Dominioan » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:30 am

Kinda just posting to add it to my posts, but im surprised how long its gone on.
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Postby La xinga » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:30 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
La xinga wrote:I think there was a source that said George F. had COVID, is it true, or a false rumor?


If it was true we'd know it already. There were two autopsies, probably both checked for covid-19.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/health/g ... index.html

Is CNN trustworthy?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:31 am

La xinga wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:The thing you just made up is a false rumor. And you know that, because you just made it up.

I didn't make it up, I heard it, and I'm asking NSG cuz I thought they were smart, but you could have answered me better, because no, I didn't make it up.


I suppose it's possible swabs were taken when George was autopsied, and the test has only just been completed?

Who told you?
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