NYC eliminates words "alien" and "illegal" from laws

[La Xinga]

1. They came here illegally, so shall not they be deported? Then what good is it becoming a citizen?
2. I'm not saying massacre, I'm saying deportation.

5.9 million people in America were unemployed in 2019, but shouldn't the citizen come before the illegal immigrant?

Good luck convincing employers to employ citizens over illegal immigrants. The latter are easier to pay AFAIK and generally more cost effective. In theory, however, I’d usually agree, but America isn’t a command economy so that can’t exactly be enforced I think.

I know, I wish people can just amend the bill:

Non citizen comes to work, citizen comes to work, hire the citizen. You don't? Jail.

Problem is America doesn't work like that.

[La Xinga]

Virtue signaling.

A "Non-citizen" is a legal immigrant who has not gone through the citizenship process.
There needs to remain a distinction between legal and illegal, because there is a HUGE difference between the two. America welcomes the legals.

Talk to Bill-da-Blas-your-money-away-io.

[Union of Sovereign States and Republics]

Good luck convincing employers to employ citizens over illegal immigrants. The latter are easier to pay AFAIK and generally more cost effective. In theory, however, I’d usually agree, but America isn’t a command economy so that can’t exactly be enforced I think.

I know, I wish people can just amend the bill:

Non citizen comes to work, citizen comes to work, hire the citizen. You don't? Jail.

Problem is America doesn't work like that.

It'd also be impossible to enforce.

[Cekoviu]

Virtue signaling.

A "Non-citizen" is a legal immigrant who has not gone through the citizenship process.
There needs to remain a distinction between legal and illegal, because there is a HUGE difference between the two. America welcomes the legals.

Oh god, this is giving me flashbacks to 2016 Reddit

[La Xinga]

I know, I wish people can just amend the bill:

Non citizen comes to work, citizen comes to work, hire the citizen. You don't? Jail.

Problem is America doesn't work like that.

It'd also be impossible to enforce.

Or we can just stop illegal immigrants from working entirely.

[Australian rePublic]

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[Ethel mermania]

Its Double plus good!

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Good luck convincing employers to employ citizens over illegal immigrants. The latter are easier to pay AFAIK and generally more cost effective. In theory, however, I’d usually agree, but America isn’t a command economy so that can’t exactly be enforced I think.

I know, I wish people can just amend the bill:

Non citizen comes to work, citizen comes to work, hire the citizen. You don't? Jail.

Problem is America doesn't work like that.

Jail? That's a bit extreme.

[La Xinga]

I know, I wish people can just amend the bill:

Non citizen comes to work, citizen comes to work, hire the citizen. You don't? Jail.

Problem is America doesn't work like that.

Jail? That's a bit extreme.

What do you suggest?

[Purple Rats]

Using word "alien" in official documents is really unprofessional. "Illegal immigrant" - how are they gonna call them then? If there is some other alternative then okay, but they can't just say "non-citizen" as this is not same thing.
"Undocumented" is also not right, as they could have documents, just not legal right to be there.

[GaySpace Communism]

it's obviously not going to actually do anything and seems more like a way for white liberals to feel like they're progressive so I'm not passionately for it, but it's nicer to say "non citizen" than "illegal alien" I guess

[Mushet]

I don't like the the term alien to refer to undocumented people. We should reserve it for inhabitants of outer space, less confusing that way.

Non-citizen can also be used for non-citizens that are here legally so I don't think it's precise enough.

[Sundiata]

I think that's fair, I don't feel right stigmatizing people so if we can create a more inclusive culture then I'm all for it.

[La Xinga]

I think that's fair, I don't feel right stigmatizing people so if we can create a more inclusive culture then I'm all for it.

But...they're.........illegal.

[Australian rePublic]

Do these morons realise that calling them "non-citizens" will make them indistinguishable from legal immigrants and even bloody tourists. If I decide to visit New York City as an international tourist (like millions of other people do) am I going be into the same catagory as people who have migrated to the USA illegally? The only thing that this will achieve is pointlessly making the lives of immigration officials pointlessly more difficult. onsidering the way that NYC has butchered its Covid-19 response, and considering the high level of crime and homeless (compared to other similar sized cities in the developed world), the people who rule over New York City need to do their fucking jobs, instead of delving down to the bottom of the barrel in order to play word police.

I'm talking to you de Blasio! You're city is currently a global epicentre of a global pandemic, there are huge protests happening all over your country, and your city is also facing the brunt of the riots, and even under the best of circamstances, your city has amongst the highest rates of crime and homelessness in America, and there are piles of piles of rat infested garbage all over the streets, and there are no public toilets anywhere in your densly populated city. Your solution to all this? Clutching at straws trying to find things to be offended by. Congragulations de Blasio, you're an embarrassment.

If you're more interested in playing word police than ensuring that your city operates properly, why the fuck did you become a mayor?

[SD_Film Artists]

'non-citizen' sounds too vague. I'd say 'illegal immigrant' would be more accurate. 'Alien' is just weird.

Tourists are non-citizens but they haven't broken any laws.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

'non-citizen' sounds too vague. I'd say 'illegal immigrant' would be more accurate. 'Alien' is just weird.

"Alien" is wrong.

The correct term is "xeno filth", and they must be cleansed from Holy Terra in the name of the Imperium of Man.

[Sundiata]

I think that's fair, I don't feel right stigmatizing people so if we can create a more inclusive culture then I'm all for it.

But...they're.........illegal.

That doesn't make them lesser human beings. It's a step in the right direction.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

But...they're.........illegal.

That doesn't make them lesser human beings.

No, but it does make them criminals.

[Sundiata]

That doesn't make them lesser human beings.

No, but it does make them criminals.

Even criminals deserve mercy.

[The Two Jerseys]

I mean, to be fair they are illegal aliens. Doesn’t really make sense not to call them that, and besides, not all noncitizens are illegal.

This.

[La Xinga]

Do these morons realise that calling them "non-citizens" will make them indistinguishable from legal immigrants and even bloody tourists. If I decide to visit New York City as an international tourist (like millions of other people do) am I going be into the same catagory as people who have migrated to the USA illegally? The only thing that this will achieve is pointlessly making the lives of immigration officials pointlessly more difficult. onsidering the way that NYC has butchered its Covid-19 response, and considering the high level of crime and homeless (compared to other similar sized cities in the developed world), the people who rule over New York City need to do their fucking jobs, instead of delving down to the bottom of the barrel in order to play word police.

I'm talking to you de Blasio! You're city is currently a global epicentre of a global pandemic, there are huge protests happening all over your country, and your city is also facing the brunt of the riots, and even under the best of circamstances, your city has amongst the highest rates of crime and homelessness in America, and there are piles of piles of rat infested garbage all over the streets, and there are no public toilets anywhere in your densly populated city. Your solution to all this? Clutching at straws trying to find things to be offended by. Congragulations de Blasio, you're an embarrassment.

If you're more interested in playing word police than ensuring that your city operates properly, why the fuck did you become a mayor?

I never liked the dude. I'm happy that Coumo stuck a stick of dynamite down his neck when it was about schools.

DE BALSIO: Schools are closed for the rest of the school year.
COUMO: NO NO NO! I SAY IT! That's your opinion!
Schools are closed for the rest of the school year.

But...they're.........illegal.

That doesn't make them lesser human beings.

Yes, but they are not citizens. They shouldn't be here. They should leave the building.

[Australian rePublic]

'non-citizen' sounds too vague. I'd say 'illegal immigrant' would be more accurate. 'Alien' is just weird.

Tourists are non-citizens but they haven't broken any laws.

For a city that welcomes in millions upon millions of international tourists, and probably relies on international tourism for the economy to function, I would argue that classing tourists in the same catagory as illegal immigrants would count as incompitance...

[La Xinga]

No, but it does make them criminals.

Even criminals deserve mercy.

Yes of course! The mercy of not dying, that is. They should be deported.

[SD_Film Artists]

But...they're.........illegal.

That doesn't make them lesser human beings. It's a step in the right direction.

No one said that they're lesser, they just need to go and be equal human beings in their legal country of orign, and basically stop breaking the law like a crim.

'non-citizen' sounds too vague. I'd say 'illegal immigrant' would be more accurate. 'Alien' is just weird.

"Alien" is wrong.

The correct term is "xeno filth", and they must be cleansed from Holy Terra in the name of the Imperium of Man.

I'm sorry, I can't hear you under my Gue'vesa helmet..