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Postby Rusozak » Sat May 30, 2020 1:35 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Atheris wrote:What's wrong with privatization of industry?


Space shouldn't be claimed by anyone. Privatization of space travel is but a humble first step to being held as an indentured servant on some far flung asteroid mining colony.


As opposed to being claimed by governments?
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Postby Kandorith » Sat May 30, 2020 1:35 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:Looks like space is no longer the one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism.

Ah yes, we should stop progress and human advancement because it's being run by companies right now. Of course we should just keep using the Soyuz rockets, because the Russians are uncorruptable!

Anyway, it was awesome to watch this and hopefully this will chime in a new era for space exploration.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat May 30, 2020 1:35 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Space shouldn't be claimed by anyone. Privatization of space travel is but a humble first step to being held as an indentured servant on some far flung asteroid mining colony.


As opposed to being claimed by governments?


I thought I was explicit that I didn't like that either.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sat May 30, 2020 1:37 pm

Kandorith wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:Looks like space is no longer the one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism.

Ah yes, we should stop progress and human advancement because it's being run by companies right now. Of course we should just keep using the Soyuz rockets, because the Russians are uncorruptable!

Anyway, it was awesome to watch this and hopefully this will chime in a new era for space exploration.

It was a joke
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Postby Rusozak » Sat May 30, 2020 1:37 pm

Kandorith wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:Looks like space is no longer the one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism.

Ah yes, we should stop progress and human advancement because it's being run by companies right now. Of course we should just keep using the Soyuz rockets, because the Russians are uncorruptable!

Anyway, it was awesome to watch this and hopefully this will chime in a new era for space exploration.


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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat May 30, 2020 1:38 pm

United earth democracy making a space empire and making alien friends is the only way to go for space.
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Postby Atheris » Sat May 30, 2020 1:39 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Atheris wrote:What's wrong with privatization of industry?


Space shouldn't be claimed by anyone. Privatization of space travel is but a humble first step to being held as an indentured servant on some far flung asteroid mining colony. Competing corporations are also more likely to keep secrets from each other, which is counter to the goal of innovating for space travel.

But the corporations aren't claiming the entirety of space, just a select few asteroids or regions of planets to mine.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat May 30, 2020 1:39 pm

Kandorith wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:Looks like space is no longer the one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism.

Ah yes, we should stop progress and human advancement because it's being run by companies right now. Of course we should just keep using the Soyuz rockets, because the Russians are uncorruptable!

Anyway, it was awesome to watch this and hopefully this will chime in a new era for space exploration.

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Postby Valrifell » Sat May 30, 2020 1:39 pm

Atheris wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Space shouldn't be claimed by anyone. Privatization of space travel is but a humble first step to being held as an indentured servant on some far flung asteroid mining colony. Competing corporations are also more likely to keep secrets from each other, which is counter to the goal of innovating for space travel.

But the corporations aren't claiming the entirety of space, just a select few asteroids or regions of planets to mine.


That's still not ideal.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat May 30, 2020 1:39 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:United earth democracy making a space empire and making alien friends is the only way to go for space.

Gona bang space ladies.


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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat May 30, 2020 1:39 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Russians do this routinely.


Not through a private company using reusable rockets that land themselves.

That's private enterprise. And substantially cheaper than the russians too.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat May 30, 2020 1:40 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:United earth democracy making a space empire and making alien friends is the only way to go for space.

Gona bang space ladies.


For humanity

Save the green babe for me
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Postby No State Here » Sat May 30, 2020 1:47 pm

Beautiful day for my 3 favorite things

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Postby Kandorith » Sat May 30, 2020 1:49 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Kandorith wrote:Ah yes, we should stop progress and human advancement because it's being run by companies right now. Of course we should just keep using the Soyuz rockets, because the Russians are uncorruptable!

Anyway, it was awesome to watch this and hopefully this will chime in a new era for space exploration.

It was a joke


I know, so is uncorruptable Russian government officials/organs.
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Postby Soled » Sat May 30, 2020 1:50 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:United earth democracy making a space empire and making alien friends is the only way to go for space.

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Postby Albrenia » Sat May 30, 2020 2:03 pm

Huzzah for this milestone for travel back into space.
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Postby Novus America » Sat May 30, 2020 2:19 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
As opposed to being claimed by governments?


I thought I was explicit that I didn't like that either.


Without a government there is no governance.
You want to contradictory things. No private corporations, no governments.
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Sat May 30, 2020 2:21 pm

Valrifell wrote:Competing corporations are also more likely to keep secrets from each other, which is counter to the goal of innovating for space travel.

I agree. Look what competing corporations have done to land, sea, and air travel! No innovations since 1800! They ruined everything! :roll:

...and competing corporations are more likely to keep secrets from each other than competing governments?? Do "Cold War", "Space Race", "espionage", or "warfare" mean anything to you?
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Ethel mermania wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Gona bang space ladies.


For humanity

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Ethel mermania wrote:Save the green babe for me

You'll have to fight Bill Shatner for her.


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Postby -Ocelot- » Sat May 30, 2020 2:49 pm

Soled wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:United earth democracy making a space empire and making alien friends is the only way to go for space.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat May 30, 2020 2:49 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Save the green babe for me

You'll have to fight Bill Shatner for her.

Hmmm, I will get evil kirk to do it for me

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Lots of people here in India stayed up late to see the launch, it was incredible. Good job Elon Musk
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sat May 30, 2020 6:40 pm

Merni wrote:The Soyuz has exactly 4 fatalities (in 2 missions, both before 1975) and 11 failed manned missions (all but one before 1985) in 144 manned missions and 53 years of service. I'll be mighty impressed if a spacecraft built essentially for profit manages to even equal that record


>implying communist spacecraft engineers wouldn't have taken a bunch of short cuts
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