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Postby South Odreria 2 » Thu May 28, 2020 12:17 pm

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:Many are to the left of liberalism and others are just non-ideological criminals taking advantage. I'm not endorsing liberalism here, as it is a worthless ideology, but not every act of rioting is due to the innate nature of a political group you do not like.

I remember photographs of Party for Socialism and Liberation signs being displayed at the Ferguson riots. Those are not liberals. I cannot stand this hyper partisanship between our two mainstream parties, especially when facts aren't the reason for it.

You'd think someone genuinely curious about the politics of rioters in Democrat-dominated cities would maybe look into what they and their online supporters say about their local Democrat politicians, or just Democrats in general.

One of the things I saw on social media last night, for instance, was left-wingers pointing out that Amy Klobuchar might have played a role in maintaining the impunity of the officer who murdered Floyd. Turns out that a lot of left-wingers aren't so ideologically blinded by the two-party system that they'll defend liberal politicians whose policies hurt black Americans or any other group.

Hell, did Rijkenlandd somehow miss all of the progressives during the Democratic primaries who very publicly and very loudly shat all over Joe Biden's record with matters of race? Or the progressives who rejected Kamala Harris for being a "cop"? Or the progressives who still demand Rahm Emanuel's head on a platter for everything the Chicago government and police did to their own community?

And Rahm Emanuel is advising Biden, because of course he is.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Thu May 28, 2020 12:20 pm

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:Many are to the left of liberalism and others are just non-ideological criminals taking advantage. I'm not endorsing liberalism here, as it is a worthless ideology, but not every act of rioting is due to the innate nature of a political group you do not like.

I remember photographs of Party for Socialism and Liberation signs being displayed at the Ferguson riots. Those are not liberals. I cannot stand this hyper partisanship between our two mainstream parties, especially when facts aren't the reason for it.

You'd think someone genuinely curious about the politics of rioters in Democrat-dominated cities would maybe look into what they and their online supporters say about their local Democrat politicians, or just Democrats in general.

One of the things I saw on social media last night, for instance, was left-wingers pointing out that Amy Klobuchar might have played a role in maintaining the impunity of the officer who murdered Floyd. Turns out that a lot of left-wingers aren't so ideologically blinded by the two-party system that they'll defend liberal politicians whose policies hurt black Americans or any other group.

Hell, did Rijkenlandd somehow miss all of the progressives during the Democratic primaries who very publicly and very loudly shat all over Joe Biden's record with matters of race? Or the progressives who rejected Kamala Harris for being a "cop"? Or the progressives who still demand Rahm Emanuel's head on a platter for everything the Chicago government and police did to their own community?

Agreed. I'm not even a leftist, but I can see how you are divided from the liberals.
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Postby Rijkenlandd » Thu May 28, 2020 12:30 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Liriena wrote:You'd think someone genuinely curious about the politics of rioters in Democrat-dominated cities would maybe look into what they and their online supporters say about their local Democrat politicians, or just Democrats in general.

One of the things I saw on social media last night, for instance, was left-wingers pointing out that Amy Klobuchar might have played a role in maintaining the impunity of the officer who murdered Floyd. Turns out that a lot of left-wingers aren't so ideologically blinded by the two-party system that they'll defend liberal politicians whose policies hurt black Americans or any other group.

Hell, did Rijkenlandd somehow miss all of the progressives during the Democratic primaries who very publicly and very loudly shat all over Joe Biden's record with matters of race? Or the progressives who rejected Kamala Harris for being a "cop"? Or the progressives who still demand Rahm Emanuel's head on a platter for everything the Chicago government and police did to their own community?

And Rahm Emanuel is advising Biden, because of course he is.


But in the end of all this...

If you don't vote Biden.. "you ain't black!"

Democrats are gonna have a shit-show waiting for them in November from all this.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu May 28, 2020 12:39 pm

Disappointing that this outrage just turned into an excuse for people to loot TV's and such things. Maybe one day anger will be directed at the right source and not directed at destroying ones own community.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu May 28, 2020 12:39 pm

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Infected Mushroom wrote:While the incident is regrettable, the riots are not justified.

I hope the police can put an end to the rioting. Violence is not the way.


Is your solution to sit around and do nothing? Just let the cops continue murdering people when they want to?

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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 28, 2020 12:42 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Disappointing that this outrage just turned into an excuse for people to loot TV's and such things. Maybe one day anger will be directed at the right source and not directed at destroying ones own community.

I will never understand the reason for it. It achieves nothing

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu May 28, 2020 12:49 pm

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:Disappointing that this outrage just turned into an excuse for people to loot TV's and such things. Maybe one day anger will be directed at the right source and not directed at destroying ones own community.

I will never understand the reason for it. It achieves nothing


I mean, people are talking more about this than they are about the other few thousand murders that happen on a regular basis.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu May 28, 2020 12:50 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Many are to the left of liberalism and others are just non-ideological criminals taking advantage. I'm not endorsing liberalism here, as it is a worthless ideology, but not every act of rioting is due to the innate nature of a political group you do not like.

I remember photographs of Party for Socialism and Liberation signs being displayed at the Ferguson riots. Those are not liberals. I cannot stand this hyper partisanship between our two mainstream parties, especially when facts aren't the reason for it.

You'd think someone genuinely curious about the politics of rioters in Democrat-dominated cities would maybe look into what they and their online supporters say about their local Democrat politicians, or just Democrats in general.

One of the things I saw on social media last night, for instance, was left-wingers pointing out that Amy Klobuchar might have played a role in maintaining the impunity of the officer who murdered Floyd. Turns out that a lot of left-wingers aren't so ideologically blinded by the two-party system that they'll defend liberal politicians whose policies hurt black Americans or any other group.

Hell, did Rijkenlandd somehow miss all of the progressives during the Democratic primaries who very publicly and very loudly shat all over Joe Biden's record with matters of race? Or the progressives who rejected Kamala Harris for being a "cop"? Or the progressives who still demand Rahm Emanuel's head on a platter for everything the Chicago government and police did to their own community?


Frankly, Rahm, Biden and Kamala all are enablers of this shit.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Thu May 28, 2020 12:53 pm

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:Disappointing that this outrage just turned into an excuse for people to loot TV's and such things. Maybe one day anger will be directed at the right source and not directed at destroying ones own community.

I will never understand the reason for it. It achieves nothing

Here is the reason for it:
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South Odreria 2 wrote:Indeed. And even if the murder did still happen, people wouldn't be burning down buildings if the economy was managed in a way that valued them as human beings.

The way in which people react to the destruction of public and private property, in my experience, is often very reflective of their social class and their relationship with the institutions that own said property. A lot of people who could be described as bourgeois clutch their pearls at vandalism because they have a beneficial relationship with the damaged property. They might even feel it as an intrinsic part of their identity, almost as if they themselves owned it. But what historic, socioeconomic and emotional bond do most working class people have with a Walmart, a police station or a fancy public building? Historically, they are precisely the social class that was excluded from even the pretense that they had any sort of ownership over them, be it as valued consumers, citizens or voters.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu May 28, 2020 1:02 pm

Liriena wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Indeed. And even if the murder did still happen, people wouldn't be burning down buildings if the economy was managed in a way that valued them as human beings.

The way in which people react to the destruction of public and private property, in my experience, is often very reflective of their social class and their relationship with the institutions that own said property. A lot of people who could be described as bourgeois clutch their pearls at vandalism because they have a beneficial relationship with the damaged property. They might even feel it as an intrinsic part of their identity, almost as if they themselves owned it. But what historic, socioeconomic and emotional bond do most working class people have with a Walmart, a police station or a fancy public building? Historically, they are precisely the social class that was excluded from even the pretense that they had any sort of ownership over them, be it as valued consumers, citizens or voters.


The upper class, owners of property, feel scared knowing that that could have been their products being looted or burned basically.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby South Odreria 2 » Thu May 28, 2020 1:04 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Liriena wrote:You'd think someone genuinely curious about the politics of rioters in Democrat-dominated cities would maybe look into what they and their online supporters say about their local Democrat politicians, or just Democrats in general.

One of the things I saw on social media last night, for instance, was left-wingers pointing out that Amy Klobuchar might have played a role in maintaining the impunity of the officer who murdered Floyd. Turns out that a lot of left-wingers aren't so ideologically blinded by the two-party system that they'll defend liberal politicians whose policies hurt black Americans or any other group.

Hell, did Rijkenlandd somehow miss all of the progressives during the Democratic primaries who very publicly and very loudly shat all over Joe Biden's record with matters of race? Or the progressives who rejected Kamala Harris for being a "cop"? Or the progressives who still demand Rahm Emanuel's head on a platter for everything the Chicago government and police did to their own community?


Frankly, Rahm, Biden and Kamala all are enablers of this shit.

And, more directly, Klobuchar.
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Postby -SARS- » Thu May 28, 2020 1:05 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote: Maybe one day anger will be directed at the right source and not directed at destroying ones own community.


Don't hold your breath waiting for that one.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu May 28, 2020 1:07 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Liriena wrote:The way in which people react to the destruction of public and private property, in my experience, is often very reflective of their social class and their relationship with the institutions that own said property. A lot of people who could be described as bourgeois clutch their pearls at vandalism because they have a beneficial relationship with the damaged property. They might even feel it as an intrinsic part of their identity, almost as if they themselves owned it. But what historic, socioeconomic and emotional bond do most working class people have with a Walmart, a police station or a fancy public building? Historically, they are precisely the social class that was excluded from even the pretense that they had any sort of ownership over them, be it as valued consumers, citizens or voters.


The upper class, owners of property, feel scared knowing that that could have been their products being looted or burned basically.

This is kinda useless because it’s hurting small business owners far more, not upper class people
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Postby Diopolis » Thu May 28, 2020 1:12 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
The upper class, owners of property, feel scared knowing that that could have been their products being looted or burned basically.

This is kinda useless because it’s hurting small business owners far more, not upper class people

Agreed, it's just inflaming the petit-bourgeoisie into supporting whatever draconian measures restore order now.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu May 28, 2020 1:12 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
The upper class, owners of property, feel scared knowing that that could have been their products being looted or burned basically.

This is kinda useless because it’s hurting small business owners far more, not upper class people


Here's the thing though. There's a minneapolis everywhere, and in an increasingly unequal country they're worried not only about property destruction happening nationwide, but that eventually those folks will come looking for them.

Thats what being in the 1% is all about. Building a social and maybe even physical wall between you and the rest of mankind and hoping the walls don't eventually come tumbling down. That's how it's been since Roman days and maybe even before that.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu May 28, 2020 1:14 pm

The thing about the riots is inevitably the people in power will spin this to their advantage. The news will concern troll like "the message of justice was lost in the violence" (they dont give a fuck about justice, like come on now) followed by the government passing New measures for "security" that in effect are anti protest measures.
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Postby Kannap » Thu May 28, 2020 1:17 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Is your solution to sit around and do nothing? Just let the cops continue murdering people when they want to?

Consistency from the resident CCP fanboy.


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Postby Diopolis » Thu May 28, 2020 1:18 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:The thing about the riots is inevitably the people in power will spin this to their advantage. The news will concern troll like "the message of justice was lost in the violence" (they dont give a fuck about justice, like come on now) followed by the government passing New measures for "security" that in effect are anti protest measures.

Anti protest measures that only apply to the disorganized.
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Postby Kannap » Thu May 28, 2020 1:18 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Disappointing that this outrage just turned into an excuse for people to loot TV's and such things. Maybe one day anger will be directed at the right source and not directed at destroying ones own community.

I will never understand the reason for it. It achieves nothing


I dunno, if we looted, rioted, and burned down police stations every time police murdered somebody they shouldn't have murdered, they'd maybe stop murdering people.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu May 28, 2020 1:20 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:This is kinda useless because it’s hurting small business owners far more, not upper class people


Here's the thing though. There's a minneapolis everywhere, and in an increasingly unequal country they're worried not only about property destruction happening nationwide, but that eventually those folks will come looking for them.

Thats what being in the 1% is all about. Building a social and maybe even physical wall between you and the rest of mankind and hoping the walls don't eventually come tumbling down. That's how it's been since Roman days and maybe even before that.


I mean, the issue of course being that it works given the rich can always pay part of the poor to kill/oppress the other part.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu May 28, 2020 1:20 pm

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San Lumen wrote:I will never understand the reason for it. It achieves nothing


I dunno, if we looted, rioted, and burned down police stations every time police murdered somebody they shouldn't have murdered, they'd maybe stop murdering people.


Only one way to find out.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Thu May 28, 2020 1:21 pm

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Neanderthaland wrote:This would result in the police militarizing. Equipping deadlier weapons, armored vehicles, and being generally quicker to resort to violence.

It will not solve the problem, it will escalate it.


then let it escalate
let people kill each other till none are left
if people cannot live fucking decently without goosestepping into someone else, then fuck everyone
a society that cannot but respond to the grievances of the masses with violence is one that must fucking immolate itself
if we cannot be fucking decent, then we can go fuck ourselves

let us not fucking pretend this shit is unprovoked
let us not fucking pretend other peaceful avenues have not been tried
let us not fucking pretend that the solutions to the ills of the system, for which this is but a symptom have not been floating around for fucking ages
let us not fucking pretend that they have not been ignored

No one is ignoring this. No one is pretending it is unprovoked.

We're just trying to keep our home from becoming a war zone, and keep our neighbors alive.
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Postby Diopolis » Thu May 28, 2020 1:21 pm

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Rojava Free State wrote:
Here's the thing though. There's a minneapolis everywhere, and in an increasingly unequal country they're worried not only about property destruction happening nationwide, but that eventually those folks will come looking for them.

Thats what being in the 1% is all about. Building a social and maybe even physical wall between you and the rest of mankind and hoping the walls don't eventually come tumbling down. That's how it's been since Roman days and maybe even before that.


I mean, the issue of course being that it works given the rich can always pay part of the poor to kill/oppress the other part.

Or at least can pay the younger sons of the petit-bourgeoisie to do it.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu May 28, 2020 1:23 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Here's the thing though. There's a minneapolis everywhere, and in an increasingly unequal country they're worried not only about property destruction happening nationwide, but that eventually those folks will come looking for them.

Thats what being in the 1% is all about. Building a social and maybe even physical wall between you and the rest of mankind and hoping the walls don't eventually come tumbling down. That's how it's been since Roman days and maybe even before that.


I mean, the issue of course being that it works given the rich can always pay part of the poor to kill/oppress the other part.


They don't even need to pay them. They can often talk them into it for free.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu May 28, 2020 1:23 pm

Violence is spreading into St Paul along University Street now. Several stores are being looted and vandalized.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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