America riots after Police kill unarmed Black Man

[Ifreann]

Suddenly I'm very interested in travelling to Minneapolis.

I'm gonna buy so many bottles of Dan Aykroyd's Crystal Head Vodka...

For $50 billion you could even get Dan himself to regale you with his beliefs about aliens while you drink it.

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

Organized, Professional Army =/= Unprofessional, Near-Savage Looters

The savage looters we should be worried about are in congress.

Don’t be silly, Congress is white.

[Agarntrop]

The savage looters we should be worried about are in congress.

Don’t be silly, Congress is white.

the fuck

[The Reformed American Republic]

You're forgetting that many people who suffer from looting are small business owners who's livelihoods are in those businesses. Multimillion dollar tycoons are not the only people who this effects.

I think small business owners should just do shoot on sight for any looters. Like the rooftop koreans in the 90's.

Yea, there no no excuse to loot a small business that probably is just getting by.

[South Odreria 2]

Organized, Professional Army =/= Unprofessional, Near-Savage Looters

But they destroyed a lot of Iraqi private property and killed thousands of Iraqi civilians. The fact that it was an "organized, professional army" doing it kinda makes it even worse, if you ask me. The Korean rooftop shooters chose the lesser rooftops, imo.

The Koreans were justified. They were themselves victims of state racism, and had to defend themselves.

[Liriena]

Organized, Professional Army =/= Unprofessional, Near-Savage Looters

The savage looters we should be worried about are in congress.

Objectively, the capitalist class and its political representatives have looted more from the rest of America than the Minneapolis looters ever could, and with a lot more human casualties to boot. But their pillage is very "civilized", so I guess it's fine.

[Diopolis]

American police brutality towards black people is kind of (partially, at least) a semi-tangential consequence of socioeconomics, or at the very least the historical socioeconomic disenfranchisement of black Americans.

It's easy for police to abuse alot of black folks because they're poor and downtrodden. I guarantee you if these men did this to Jessie Jackson Jr, their asses would be heading for death row, because money is power.

Doubtful. The death penalty in the US can only be applied for first degree murder with a specific set of aggravating circumstances, which usually boil down to killing a cop in line of duty, more than one person, a child under a certain cutoff age, or in concert with sexual violence.

[Rojava Free State]

Don’t be silly, Congress is white.

the fuck

It's a joke.

[Liriena]

I'm gonna buy so many bottles of Dan Aykroyd's Crystal Head Vodka...

For $50 billion you could even get Dan himself to regale you with his beliefs about aliens while you drink it.

Aliens, ghosts, Mesoamerican mysticism and 9/11. Because conspiracy theories never come in singles.

[Agarntrop]

It's easy for police to abuse alot of black folks because they're poor and downtrodden. I guarantee you if these men did this to Jessie Jackson Jr, their asses would be heading for death row, because money is power.

Doubtful. The death penalty in the US can only be applied for first degree murder with a specific set of aggravating circumstances, which usually boil down to killing a cop in line of duty, more than one person, a child under a certain cutoff age, or in concert with sexual violence.

In some states the death penalty can be imposed in all cases of willful murder iirc

[Rojava Free State]

It's easy for police to abuse alot of black folks because they're poor and downtrodden. I guarantee you if these men did this to Jessie Jackson Jr, their asses would be heading for death row, because money is power.

Doubtful. The death penalty in the US can only be applied for first degree murder with a specific set of aggravating circumstances, which usually boil down to killing a cop in line of duty, more than one person, a child under a certain cutoff age, or in concert with sexual violence.

It's hyperbole. What I mean is when the cops shoot DeQuan Philipps, they know they're more likely to get away with it than if they shoot someone higher up the socioeconomic chain.

[Liriena]

I wonder how you feel about American casualties from the Iraq war.

That's not related. There's a clear consensus forming that the police officer should be charged. I see the causation for looting, but looting isn't a recourse to someone's death. Justice, if it even can be, will be found in the law, not in burning unrelated businesses and throwing even more people out of work in the community.

Don't get me wrong: I see the cathartic value in vandalizing and stealing from corporate and political power in times of crisis and outrage, but it's certainly not a long term solution to systemic problems.

[The Emerald Legion]

Give me a single conflict in history that wasn’t, in the end, about the allocation of resources, including money and food?

And these riots are not about one cop. They are about a systemic problem that has existed since the founding of the US and that its system is unable to solve.

And I don’t know, but George Loyd was worth a lot, and he still is. You need to do a lot of value to even come close to his monetary value, let alone his value as a person. You know, the only valuation that is not sucky.

There are tons of conflicts that aren't about the allocation of resources. The issue with marxism is they tend to reach to try and find economic reasons for conflicts that are started over simple incompatibilities of personality and culture. You merely need to watch humans to realize that people get into fights and conflicts for all sorts of reasons that aren't necessarily economic. Sometimes people just don't like each other. I could name all sorts of conflicts, and you like the marxists before you, will pull a bullshit answer as to why it really wasn't about people just disliking each other.

Hell World War 2 for example. What *economic* reason did the US have for joining? It wasn't about the economy, it was about avenging pearl harbor. The idea that all conflict ultimately comes down to economic motives is ridiculous and foolish and I can't take anyone who actually espouses it seriously, because they've clearly never actually met another human being.

No, these riots are about a single incident and continue because we permit them to continue. If we responded to every riot with the same level of force that put down the new york draft riots, we wouldn't have much in the way of riots anymore. But Riots are good for business, and politically expedient for everyone, so they continue.

[Kanadorika]

That's not related. There's a clear consensus forming that the police officer should be charged. I see the causation for looting, but looting isn't a recourse to someone's death. Justice, if it even can be, will be found in the law, not in burning unrelated businesses and throwing even more people out of work in the community.

Don't get me wrong: I see the cathartic value in vandalizing and stealing from corporate and political power in times of crisis and outrage, but it's certainly not a long term solution to systemic problems.

It does nothing but further divide a community. My hometown of Los Angeles still has scars from the riots, which only seemed to increase the animosity between the Hispanic, Black, Asian, and White communities.

[Ifreann]

The savage looters we should be worried about are in congress.

Objectively, the capitalist class and its political representatives have looted more from the rest of America than the Minneapolis looters ever could, and with a lot more human casualties to boot. But their pillage is very "civilized", so I guess it's fine.

Federal asset forfeiture revenues are actually higher than losses to burglary. The cops steal more than the criminals.

[Kowani]

I wonder how you feel about American casualties from the Iraq war.

That's not related. There's a clear consensus forming that the police officer should be charged. I see the causation for looting, but looting isn't a recourse to someone's death. Justice, if it even can be, will be found in the law, not in burning unrelated businesses and throwing even more people out of work in the community.

“Those who make Democratic Change impossible make violent revolution inevitable.”

[The Reformed American Republic]

Doubtful. The death penalty in the US can only be applied for first degree murder with a specific set of aggravating circumstances, which usually boil down to killing a cop in line of duty, more than one person, a child under a certain cutoff age, or in concert with sexual violence.

It's hyperbole. What I mean is when the cops shoot DeQuan Philipps, they know they're more likely to get away with it than if they shoot someone higher up the socioeconomic chain.

I agree.

[Diopolis]

Doubtful. The death penalty in the US can only be applied for first degree murder with a specific set of aggravating circumstances, which usually boil down to killing a cop in line of duty, more than one person, a child under a certain cutoff age, or in concert with sexual violence.

It's hyperbole. What I mean is when the cops shoot DeQuan Philipps, they know they're more likely to get away with it than if they shoot someone higher up the socioeconomic chain.

Oh, yeah.
Now if the Chicago PD's blacksite had actually been in Oklahoma, you might have a shot at some cops going to the gas chamber.

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I wonder how you feel about American casualties from the Iraq war.

Organized, Professional Army =/= Unprofessional, Near-Savage Looters

Is being organized and professional your standard for something being okay? Cartel hitmen are organized and professional.

[Kanadorika]

It's hyperbole. What I mean is when the cops shoot DeQuan Philipps, they know they're more likely to get away with it than if they shoot someone higher up the socioeconomic chain.

Oh, yeah.
Now if the Chicago PD's blacksite had actually been in Oklahoma, you might have a shot at some cops going to the gas chamber.

I feel the states with looser qualifications for the death penalty are also more lenient to police brutality.

Could be wrong. Hope I am.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Oh, yeah.
Now if the Chicago PD's blacksite had actually been in Oklahoma, you might have a shot at some cops going to the gas chamber.

I feel the states with looser qualifications for the death penalty are also more lenient to police brutality.

Could be wrong. Hope I am.

I don't think you are.

[Kanadorika]

I feel the states with looser qualifications for the death penalty are also more lenient to police brutality.

Could be wrong. Hope I am.

I don't think you are.

At the same time, the bastion of liberalism that is Los Angeles is probably the most notorious city in the country when it comes to police brutality.

Its just everywhere in the country, regardless of the politics of a city.

[-SARS-]

Oh, yeah.
Now if the Chicago PD's blacksite had actually been in Oklahoma, you might have a shot at some cops going to the gas chamber.

I feel the states with looser qualifications for the death penalty are also more lenient to police brutality.

Could be wrong. Hope I am.

Not a 1:1 correlation, but I think that's the way to bet it.

[Rijkenlandd]

I don't think you are.

At the same time, the bastion of liberalism that is Los Angeles is probably the most notorious city in the country when it comes to police brutality.

Its just everywhere in the country, regardless of the politics of a city.

Los Angeles, ah yes.

Liberal rioters burning shit down in one of the most liberal cities of the most liberal states in the country. Sounds quite right.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

The other officer in the video has been identified as Tou Thao, a Hmong-American. This can potentially cause anger against Asian-Americans as if there wasn’t enough anger already. Apparently some Chinatown business owners have begun arming already