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Postby Aureumterra » Thu May 28, 2020 9:45 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Liriena wrote:That corporate chain store had a family!


Guess the people who worked there have to file unemployment.

Implying they haven’t already. This pretty much just traps them in unemployment
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Postby Kanadorika » Thu May 28, 2020 10:19 am

I have to say I'm dissapointed with the turn to looting. This incident is unique in that it seems like everybody is opposed to the cops at fault, even the most right wing conservatives. Unfortunately protests for a noble cause resulted in riots.


I take the whole "riots are the only way they will hear us" argument with a grain of salt. The US has had far too many riots as it is throughout the past few decades, and they certainly don't seem to help anything.

That being said, I don't care in the slightest about the cops who actually killed the man. Focus your hatred on them and make them scared shitless.
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Postby Brunswick-upon-Raritan » Thu May 28, 2020 10:24 am

Apparently the Mayor of Minneapolis (who looks exactly like Justin Trudeau) has asked for the State to send in the National Guard. No word yet on if that’ll actually happen, though. Mayor Jacob Frey and Gov. Tim Walz are both Democrats, in the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party (DFL).


Also #throwbackthursday, remember the Ferguson and Baltimore protests? Let’s party like it’s 2015 again
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Postby Kowani » Thu May 28, 2020 10:28 am

Kanadorika wrote:I have to say I'm dissapointed with the turn to looting. This incident is unique in that it seems like everybody is opposed to the cops at fault, even the most right wing conservatives. Unfortunately protests for a noble cause resulted in riots.


I take the whole "riots are the only way they will hear us" argument with a grain of salt. The US has had far too many riots as it is throughout the past few decades, and they certainly don't seem to help anything.

That being said, I don't care in the slightest about the cops who actually killed the man. Focus your hatred on them and make them scared shitless.

Gonna be honest, the peaceful protests didn’t do anything either.
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Postby Brunswick-upon-Raritan » Thu May 28, 2020 10:30 am

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Postby Liriena » Thu May 28, 2020 10:32 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Liriena wrote:That corporate chain store had a family!


Guess the people who worked there have to file unemployment.

That is a legitimate problem born from these events. But the looting, in and of itself, isn't. At least not as far as big corporate chain stores are concerned.
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Postby Liriena » Thu May 28, 2020 10:36 am

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But it's also kind of about money deep down, or rather about socioeconomics, if you look at this through a Marxist mindset.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu May 28, 2020 10:37 am

Kanadorika wrote:I have to say I'm dissapointed with the turn to looting. This incident is unique in that it seems like everybody is opposed to the cops at fault, even the most right wing conservatives. Unfortunately protests for a noble cause resulted in riots.


I take the whole "riots are the only way they will hear us" argument with a grain of salt. The US has had far too many riots as it is throughout the past few decades, and they certainly don't seem to help anything.

That being said, I don't care in the slightest about the cops who actually killed the man. Focus your hatred on them and make them scared shitless.


Looting is never a good idea. I was cool with them though when they trashed the precinct, because the MPD has been fucking around like a five dollar hooker for far too long.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu May 28, 2020 10:37 am

Liriena wrote:
Brunswick-upon-Raritan wrote:(Image)

But it's also kind of about money deep down, or rather about socioeconomics, if you look at this through a Marxist mindset.


If you look at anything through a Marxist mindset, everything is about socioeconomics.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu May 28, 2020 10:38 am

Brunswick-upon-Raritan wrote:Apparently the Mayor of Minneapolis (who looks exactly like Justin Trudeau) has asked for the State to send in the National Guard. No word yet on if that’ll actually happen, though. Mayor Jacob Frey and Gov. Tim Walz are both Democrats, in the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party (DFL).


Also #throwbackthursday, remember the Ferguson and Baltimore protests? Let’s party like it’s 2015 again


The Ferguson Police had to be hands down the worst department in America.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu May 28, 2020 10:39 am

Liriena wrote:
Brunswick-upon-Raritan wrote:(Image)

But it's also kind of about money deep down, or rather about socioeconomics, if you look at this through a Marxist mindset.


That's because Marxism is silly and views everything as about the distribution of resources.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Thu May 28, 2020 10:39 am

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Liriena wrote:But it's also kind of about money deep down, or rather about socioeconomics, if you look at this through a Marxist mindset.


If you look at anything through a Marxist mindset, everything is about socioeconomics.

Socioeconomics affects a lot of stuff.
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Postby Liriena » Thu May 28, 2020 10:41 am

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Liriena wrote:But it's also kind of about money deep down, or rather about socioeconomics, if you look at this through a Marxist mindset.


That's because Marxism is silly and views everything as about the distribution of resources.

Well... yeah? It's a materialist theory of history.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu May 28, 2020 10:41 am

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If you look at anything through a Marxist mindset, everything is about socioeconomics.

Socioeconomics affects a lot of stuff.


That's true.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu May 28, 2020 10:41 am

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Kanadorika wrote:I have to say I'm dissapointed with the turn to looting. This incident is unique in that it seems like everybody is opposed to the cops at fault, even the most right wing conservatives. Unfortunately protests for a noble cause resulted in riots.


I take the whole "riots are the only way they will hear us" argument with a grain of salt. The US has had far too many riots as it is throughout the past few decades, and they certainly don't seem to help anything.

That being said, I don't care in the slightest about the cops who actually killed the man. Focus your hatred on them and make them scared shitless.


Looting is never a good idea. I was cool with them though when they trashed the precinct, because the MPD has been fucking around like a five dollar hooker for far too long.

Looting can be a good idea, though. It gets the capitalist to care about a situation, if only it’s about the bottom line.

There is an incredible injustice here, and the looting is no bigger injustice than the fundamental, organisational racism on display, and this serves to highlight that.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu May 28, 2020 10:41 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Looting is never a good idea. I was cool with them though when they trashed the precinct, because the MPD has been fucking around like a five dollar hooker for far too long.

Looting can be a good idea, though. It gets the capitalist to care about a situation, if only it’s about the bottom line.

There is an incredible injustice here, and the looting is no bigger injustice than the fundamental, organisational racism on display, and this serves to highlight that.


Plus people get free TVs.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu May 28, 2020 10:42 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Looting is never a good idea. I was cool with them though when they trashed the precinct, because the MPD has been fucking around like a five dollar hooker for far too long.

Looting can be a good idea, though. It gets the capitalist to care about a situation, if only it’s about the bottom line.

There is an incredible injustice here, and the looting is no bigger injustice than the fundamental, organisational racism on display, and this serves to highlight that.


Yeah people don't have their shit straight if the burning McDonalds offends them more than an unarmed man being murdered.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu May 28, 2020 10:43 am

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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Looting can be a good idea, though. It gets the capitalist to care about a situation, if only it’s about the bottom line.

There is an incredible injustice here, and the looting is no bigger injustice than the fundamental, organisational racism on display, and this serves to highlight that.


Plus people get free TVs.


We all like free stuff. Free rides. Free samples. Free data and shipping. Free TVs when a riot breaks out.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Thu May 28, 2020 10:44 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Looting can be a good idea, though. It gets the capitalist to care about a situation, if only it’s about the bottom line.

There is an incredible injustice here, and the looting is no bigger injustice than the fundamental, organisational racism on display, and this serves to highlight that.


Yeah people don't have their shit straight if the burning McDonalds offends them more than an unarmed man being murdered.

Well a lot of people don't, the government of Minnesota for starters.
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Postby Liriena » Thu May 28, 2020 10:44 am

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
If you look at anything through a Marxist mindset, everything is about socioeconomics.

Socioeconomics affects a lot of stuff.

American police brutality towards black people is kind of (partially, at least) a semi-tangential consequence of socioeconomics, or at the very least the historical socioeconomic disenfranchisement of black Americans.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu May 28, 2020 10:45 am

Liriena wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Socioeconomics affects a lot of stuff.

American police brutality towards black people is kind of (partially, at least) a semi-tangential consequence of socioeconomics, or at the very least the historical socioeconomic disenfranchisement of black Americans.


It's easy for police to abuse alot of black folks because they're poor and downtrodden. I guarantee you if these men did this to Jessie Jackson Jr, their asses would be heading for death row, because money is power.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Thu May 28, 2020 10:46 am

Liriena wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Socioeconomics affects a lot of stuff.

American police brutality towards black people is kind of (partially, at least) a semi-tangential consequence of socioeconomics, or at the very least the historical socioeconomic disenfranchisement of black Americans.

Indeed. And even if the murder did still happen, people wouldn't be burning down buildings if the economy was managed in a way that valued them as human beings.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu May 28, 2020 10:46 am

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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Looting can be a good idea, though. It gets the capitalist to care about a situation, if only it’s about the bottom line.

There is an incredible injustice here, and the looting is no bigger injustice than the fundamental, organisational racism on display, and this serves to highlight that.


Plus people get free TVs.

The only perk to systemtic racism is that you get a free TV once in a while.

Then again, it comes at the price of years of oppression, so perhaps those TVs aren’t actually do cheap.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu May 28, 2020 10:47 am

Liriena wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
That's because Marxism is silly and views everything as about the distribution of resources.

Well... yeah? It's a materialist theory of history.


It's dumb because History isn't about solely the distribution of materials. Furthermore it disregards a fuck ton of shit about the distribution of materials.

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Looting is never a good idea. I was cool with them though when they trashed the precinct, because the MPD has been fucking around like a five dollar hooker for far too long.

Looting can be a good idea, though. It gets the capitalist to care about a situation, if only it’s about the bottom line.

There is an incredible injustice here, and the looting is no bigger injustice than the fundamental, organisational racism on display, and this serves to highlight that.


Disagreed. At this point, the damage done by looting has far exceeded the damage done by that particular cop. As sucky as that cops behavior is.
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Postby Liriena » Thu May 28, 2020 10:47 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Plus people get free TVs.

The only perk to systemtic racism is that you get a free TV once in a while.

Then again, it comes at the price of years of oppression, so perhaps those TVs aren’t actually do cheap.

So you're saying they should be looting the Apple stores? ;P
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