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Postby SD_Film Artists » Sun May 31, 2020 5:19 am

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Cappedore wrote:Riots are completely uncalled for. Never fight violence with violence.


I often suspect people who say to never fight violence with violence were never the subjects of intense school bullying. No teacher, no pleading, no discussing, no questioning, no yelling, and no punishment ever changed their mind except for my hurting them back and then making it clear I wasn't going to take it from anyone else.

Violence for violence is not always the answer, no. But sometimes it does a damn sight more to help than anything else.


Good point. Sometimes people are happy to say what not to do but they become quiet when it comes to suggesting a realistic alternative. Having said that, I think there are better ways to protest than destroying a store who's owner may or may not have supported you.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun May 31, 2020 5:20 am

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Snakeden wrote:
I often suspect people who say to never fight violence with violence were never the subjects of intense school bullying. No teacher, no pleading, no discussing, no questioning, no yelling, and no punishment ever changed their mind except for my hurting them back and then making it clear I wasn't going to take it from anyone else.

Violence for violence is not always the answer, no. But sometimes it does a damn sight more to help than anything else.


Good point. Sometimes people are happy to say what not to do but they become quiet on it comes to suggesting a realistic alternative. Having said that, I don't support the violence in these riots.

So what is your realistic alternative ?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun May 31, 2020 5:22 am

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Neanderthaland wrote:Minneapolis did the right thing by immediately firing the officers.

The riots are understandable, but the timing is fucking awful.

Riots are completely uncalled for. Never fight violence with violence.


Nah fam, if the police killed my brother in cold blood, I'd want the police station to be burned to the ground, and every cop in the city forced to flee for their lives. Pacifists never win because they just keep getting shot and never fight back.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun May 31, 2020 5:25 am

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Neanderthaland wrote:Minneapolis did the right thing by immediately firing the officers.

The riots are understandable, but the timing is fucking awful.

Riots are completely uncalled for. Never fight violence with violence.

Yeah no, sometimes violence needs violence in return.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun May 31, 2020 5:27 am


Shit like this end up making riots entirely unjustified to me.
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Postby Vistulange » Sun May 31, 2020 5:27 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cappedore wrote:Riots are completely uncalled for. Never fight violence with violence.

Pacifists never win because they just keep getting shot and never fight back.

At least two countries won their independence through civil disobedience campaigns, Rojava.

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Postby Albrenia » Sun May 31, 2020 5:27 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Cappedore wrote:Riots are completely uncalled for. Never fight violence with violence.

Yeah no, sometimes violence needs violence in return.


Even softies like me can agree there. You can't talk away Nazi Germany, or scum like ISIS and the like.

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Postby Agarntrop » Sun May 31, 2020 5:28 am

People claiming that opportunistic theft/looting is a form of violent 'protest' now? Ffs
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun May 31, 2020 5:29 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Cappedore wrote:Riots are completely uncalled for. Never fight violence with violence.

Yeah no, sometimes violence needs violence in return.


I suspect that alot of pacifists are just glorified wimps. They're pussies who are too afraid to fight and cover up their cowardice with a fake moral standpoint. Now I'm not speaking on Cappedore because idk him, but alot of people who say violence is not the answer are just afraid to get violent and it annoys me. You should not go looking for fights but if someone starts a fight with you, and threatens your life, it is not only a right but a responsibility to take them down.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun May 31, 2020 5:29 am



That poor couple. They didn't deserve to get beaten like this.

There are peaceful protester somewhere within these riots but as of right now it seems to be mostly riots.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun May 31, 2020 5:29 am

Agarntrop wrote:People claiming that opportunistic theft/looting is a form of violent 'protest' now? Ffs


Let's just call out the elephant in the room. America is rioting and people are dying.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun May 31, 2020 5:31 am



This is the sad thing about this shit. I totally understand the rage at the police but when you beat down a random couple and loot their business, are you any better than the cops? How utterly disappointing. This thing gets darker daily and is losing the original ragged glory it had.
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Sun May 31, 2020 5:31 am

Rojava Free State wrote:I suspect that alot of pacifists are just glorified wimps. They're pussies who are too afraid to fight and cover up their cowardice with a fake moral standpoint. Now I'm not speaking on Cappedore because idk him, but alot of people who say violence is not the answer are just afraid to get violent and it annoys me. You should not go looking for fights but if someone starts a fight with you, and threatens your life, it is not only a right but a responsibility to take them down.

I disagree. I think violence is too often the coward's recourse. Compare the cornered person who lashes out, or the rats who attack others in mobs, to the committed pacifist who refuses to engage in retaliatory violence when being attacked by evil. I'm sorry, but the latter is miles braver than someone driven by a fight-or-flight response. That being said, I'm all for self-defence and not a pacifist myself, I just find that standing to principle even against harm admirable.

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Postby Heloin » Sun May 31, 2020 5:32 am

Apparently someone was jamming Chicago police radio yesterday with Serbia Strong.
https://twitter.com/digg_it3/status/1266948874431840257

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun May 31, 2020 5:34 am

Heloin wrote:Apparently someone was jamming Chicago police radio yesterday with Serbia Strong.
https://twitter.com/digg_it3/status/1266948874431840257
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Sun May 31, 2020 5:34 am

Heloin wrote:Apparently someone was jamming Chicago police radio yesterday with Serbia Strong.
https://twitter.com/digg_it3/status/1266948874431840257

Incredibly based.

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Sun May 31, 2020 5:34 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:
Good point. Sometimes people are happy to say what not to do but they become quiet on it comes to suggesting a realistic alternative. Having said that, I don't support the violence in these riots.

So what is your realistic alternative ?


Staying away from looting as it's counter-productive, also nonviolent protest.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun May 31, 2020 5:37 am

Agarntrop wrote:People claiming that opportunistic theft/looting is a form of violent 'protest' now? Ffs

Well, kneeling during the anthem was treason, so...
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun May 31, 2020 5:39 am

SD_Film Artists wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:So what is your realistic alternative ?


Staying away from looting as it's counter-productive, also nonviolent protest.


I asked for your realistic alternative. You are now the one who tells the bullied boy once again he should speak with his teachers as he has done a dozen times with zero result.

These people feel desperate. Telling them to keep doing what they have tried over and over and over again and got slammed down for with nothing gained is not going to work.

Well ok, some are desperate. Quite a few probably just enjoy seeing things burn for fun. On all sides.
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Postby Agarntrop » Sun May 31, 2020 5:40 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:People claiming that opportunistic theft/looting is a form of violent 'protest' now? Ffs

Well, kneeling during the anthem was treason, so...

Stealing shit for your own benefit isn't even political, nevermind just or legal.... it's just wrong, and the looters should be jailed for a good few years to deter others.

I do have more sympathy with the genuine political rioters, though
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun May 31, 2020 5:44 am

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The answer is Trump being elected so that things like police reform get ignored to own the SJWs.

Don't blame Trump for this, crazies have existed forwver before Trump, and will exist for ever after Trump.

Yes but he lead the crazys into ignoreing all attempts at police reform.

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Postby Caracasus » Sun May 31, 2020 5:45 am

Agarntrop wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:Well, kneeling during the anthem was treason, so...

Stealing shit for your own benefit isn't even political, nevermind just or legal.... it's just wrong, and the looters should be jailed for a good few years to deter others.

I do have more sympathy with the genuine political rioters, though


There will always be a very small minority of people who are gonna use chaos like this to loot. It will, of course, be amplified by a fair few media outlets as they sweep ongoing acts of police brutality under the rug.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun May 31, 2020 5:46 am

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Australian rePublic wrote:Don't blame Trump for this, crazies have existed forwver before Trump, and will exist for ever after Trump.

The Democrats have controlled Minneapolis since before any of these officers joined the force.

Clearly it's Trump's fault that the Democrats didn't spend the decades they've controlled the city government cleaning up the police force...

That... I have no real rebuttal aginst. You have a point why didn't the dems clean up the force?

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun May 31, 2020 5:50 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Don't blame Trump for this, crazies have existed forwver before Trump, and will exist for ever after Trump.

The Democrats have controlled Minneapolis since before any of these officers joined the force.

Clearly it's Trump's fault that the Democrats didn't spend the decades they've controlled the city government cleaning up the police force...


Well, Trump did tell these fine officers that hurting a suspect a little during an arrest was fine...

But yes. Plenty of blame to go around.
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