America riots after Police kill unarmed Black Man

[Diahon]

https://twitter.com/PLBarghouty/status/ ... 54690?s=20
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1266911 ... 94722?s=20

nice clips but none of those prove your point the first just shows a person at night with some flashlights around him nothing in the pictures shows the National Guard shooting anyone the 2nd picture shows tear gas being shot into the area that the journalist was in and from the looks of it the gas was a good 10 or so feet behind him so again it doesn't show the National Guard shooting anyone.

the guy narrating in the second clip would later confirm that not only was he shot, the advancing troops shot into a crowd of peaceful protesters

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

I would bet Baltimore is more robust than the suburbs around it. The most significant breaks from Washington consensus thinking have come from cities, which have elected some of the most anti-establishment politicians in the country, who unapologetically reject the historic positions of both Democrats and Republicans from as recently as just a couple decades ago.

I do not know about that. My suburban county is actually quite well run. Not just controlled by one party.
Whereas the city is just mired in the same rut of the same corrupt machine politics.
The county is the area seeing progress and improvement. Not the city.

And you know I actually like having drivable roads and not getting robbed or shot.
Sure self serving perhaps but again the city never changes anyways.

Lol, your view of cities is absurd.

Also many suburbs have new, growing problems and they will need to look to cities for solutions, like better treatments for drug addiction, housing insecurity, depopulation, rezoning, etc.

[Slavakino]

We’re gonna need some evidence on national guard shooting journalists

https://twitter.com/PLBarghouty/status/ ... 54690?s=20
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1266911 ... 94722?s=20

Those don't look like nat guards. Black and Navy suits. The Nat Guards would be in urban camo

[Novus America]

I am not defending him (although the problem is the PRC not Mexico) but the problems go much further back and much deeper. I am disappointed that he did not do enough of what he said on trade and infrastructure but he is the symptom, not the disease.

Historically Republicans have not been big on trade protectionism, a Democratic president would be better than a Republican simply by virtue of being more aligned with the labor movement. Back when Democrats and Republicans were all heralding the start of trade with China, and ultimately the loss of millions of American jobs, only trade unions and their allies resisted. That institutional memory is the only thing redeemable about the Democratic coalition.

Well sure the Republicans have not been good on trade since Eisenhower maybe but that hardly redeems the Democratic Party who were so quick to sell out labor and still appear to have learned nothing on outsourcing... neither party really cares did the workers. Democrats sold the workers out just as quickly. Clinton and Obama just pushed more outsourcing.

Neither party has an once of credibility on the matter.

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

Historically Republicans have not been big on trade protectionism, a Democratic president would be better than a Republican simply by virtue of being more aligned with the labor movement. Back when Democrats and Republicans were all heralding the start of trade with China, and ultimately the loss of millions of American jobs, only trade unions and their allies resisted. That institutional memory is the only thing redeemable about the Democratic coalition.

Well sure the Republicans have not been good on trade since Eisenhower maybe but that hardly redeems the Democratic Party who were so quick to sell out labor and still appear to have learned nothing on outsourcing... neither party really cares did the workers. Democrats sold the workers out just as quickly. Clinton and Obama just pushed more outsourcing.

Neither party has an once of credibility on the matter.

Unfortunately, America is a two-party country and you just have to choose the better opposite side of the bargaining table.

[Northern Davincia]

Well sure the Republicans have not been good on trade since Eisenhower maybe but that hardly redeems the Democratic Party who were so quick to sell out labor and still appear to have learned nothing on outsourcing... neither party really cares did the workers. Democrats sold the workers out just as quickly. Clinton and Obama just pushed more outsourcing.

Neither party has an once of credibility on the matter.

Unfortunately, America is a two-party country and you just have to choose the better opposite side of the bargaining table.

Do you know the definition of insanity?

[Novus America]

I do not know about that. My suburban county is actually quite well run. Not just controlled by one party.
Whereas the city is just mired in the same rut of the same corrupt machine politics.
The county is the area seeing progress and improvement. Not the city.

And you know I actually like having drivable roads and not getting robbed or shot.
Sure self serving perhaps but again the city never changes anyways.

Lol, your view of cities is absurd.

Also many suburbs have new, growing problems and they will need to look to cities for solutions, like better treatments for drug addiction, housing insecurity, depopulation, rezoning, etc.

I used to live in Baltimore. And see the same people from the same party machine elected over and over. Just one corruption scandal after the next.
While there is literal third world violence levels.

Meanwhile the tax is double for half the services.
Sure we can learn from their failures but I fail to see while living in the failure (which is actually more expensive) would help.

[Novus America]

Well sure the Republicans have not been good on trade since Eisenhower maybe but that hardly redeems the Democratic Party who were so quick to sell out labor and still appear to have learned nothing on outsourcing... neither party really cares did the workers. Democrats sold the workers out just as quickly. Clinton and Obama just pushed more outsourcing.

Neither party has an once of credibility on the matter.

Unfortunately, America is a two-party country and you just have to choose the better opposite side of the bargaining table.

Which is the whole cat shit vs cow shit. Cow shit might be less stinky than cat shit, but you are still eating shit.

Now Trump or Biden. Ugh.

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

Unfortunately, America is a two-party country and you just have to choose the better opposite side of the bargaining table.

Do you know the definition of insanity?

Ignoring the disadvantages of third parties in U.S. politics?

[Gig em Aggies]

nice clips but none of those prove your point the first just shows a person at night with some flashlights around him nothing in the pictures shows the National Guard shooting anyone the 2nd picture shows tear gas being shot into the area that the journalist was in and from the looks of it the gas was a good 10 or so feet behind him so again it doesn't show the National Guard shooting anyone.

the guy narrating in the second clip would later confirm that not only was he shot, the advancing troops shot into a crowd of peaceful protesters

but you posted the clips acting like they shot people dead which they didn't in most cases of riots these day the police and the National Guard if needed shoot Less then lethal rounds such as tear gas, flash bangs, and bean bags or rubber bullets none of which can kill unless your point blank. and the guy if you listen very carefully said they almost shot me, not they shot me.

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

Unfortunately, America is a two-party country and you just have to choose the better opposite side of the bargaining table.

Which is the whole cat shit vs cow shit. Cow shit might be less stinky than cat shit, but you are still eating shit.

Refusing to bargain with anyone means leaving the shitty contract as is, and that's worse than being uselessly angry.

[Novus America]

Which is the whole cat shit vs cow shit. Cow shit might be less stinky than cat shit, but you are still eating shit.

Refusing to bargain with anyone means leaving the shitty contract as is, and that's worse than being uselessly angry.

But I do bargain. I still vote. I still eat the two party shit. But I am still stuck eating shit.
I do it. But I am not going to like it.

[Northern Davincia]

Do you know the definition of insanity?

Ignoring the disadvantages of third parties in U.S. politics?

Those disadvantages only exist in the minds of voters.

[Bear Stearns]

Well looks like the Dallas rioters might have just killed someone (not sure if the victim survived). Won't link the video, as it is very graphic (or can I link it?), but it is essentially 7-10 rioters (mostly black) wailing on a lone white guy (some of them hit him with rocks and skateboard). They eventually leave and the victim is left motionless and there is a lot of blood.

Background story seems to be that victim attempted to defend a store with a sword or baton.

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

Refusing to bargain with anyone means leaving the shitty contract as is, and that's worse than being uselessly angry.

But I do bargain. I still vote. I still eat the two party shit. But I am still stuck eating shit.
I do it. But I am not going to like it.

Well as I said before, I don't think voting is the same as 'bargaining'. As you say, simply see-sawing between who you vote for is a type of equilibrium, inertia, not an exertion of force.

[Maichuko]

I'm a bit nauseated right now. Rioters beat the shit out of a guy in Dallas and he didn't look good at all. Fucking hell.

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

Ignoring the disadvantages of third parties in U.S. politics?

Those disadvantages only exist in the minds of voters.

Lol, yes, the legal barriers against third parties that exist are all imaginary.

Even the Tea Party understood that, but not Libertarians I suppose.

[Bear Stearns]

I'm a bit nauseated right now. Rioters beat the shit out of a guy in Dallas and he didn't look good at all. Fucking hell.

It's likely they killed him.

This is our Reginald Denny.

[Northern Davincia]

Those disadvantages only exist in the minds of voters.

Lol, yes, the legal barriers against third parties that exist are all imaginary.

Even the Tea Party understood that, but not Libertarians I suppose.

More or less. Legal barriers may dissipate if Americans realized that they were not stuck with a binary choice.

[Gig em Aggies]

Well looks like the Dallas rioters might have just killed someone (not sure if the victim survived). Won't link the video, as it is very graphic (or can I link it?), but it is essentially 7-10 rioters (mostly black) wailing on a lone white guy (some of them hit him with rocks and skateboard). They eventually leave and the victim is left motionless and there is a lot of blood.

Background story seems to be that victim attempted to defend a store with a sword or baton.

I watched the video and they guy who posted it said the victim was injured but I didn't read anything about him being killed though

[San Lumen]

I would bet Baltimore is more robust than the suburbs around it. The most significant breaks from Washington consensus thinking have come from cities, which have elected some of the most anti-establishment politicians in the country, who unapologetically reject the historic positions of both Democrats and Republicans from as recently as just a couple decades ago.

I do not know about that. My suburban county is actually quite well run. Not just controlled by one party.
Whereas the city is just mired in the same rut of the same corrupt machine politics.
The county is the area seeing progress and improvement. Not the city.

And you know I actually like having drivable roads and not getting robbed or shot.
Sure self serving perhaps but again the city never changes anyways.

You are making sweeping generalizations about cities and it seems you have a genuine hatred for all them

[Bear Stearns]

Well looks like the Dallas rioters might have just killed someone (not sure if the victim survived). Won't link the video, as it is very graphic (or can I link it?), but it is essentially 7-10 rioters (mostly black) wailing on a lone white guy (some of them hit him with rocks and skateboard). They eventually leave and the victim is left motionless and there is a lot of blood.

Background story seems to be that victim attempted to defend a store with a sword or baton.

I watched the video and they guy who posted it said the victim was injured but I didn't read anything about him being killed though

Again, unknown if he was killed. I just said it's possible as he wasn't moving and there was a lot of blood.

[Novus America]

But I do bargain. I still vote. I still eat the two party shit. But I am still stuck eating shit.
I do it. But I am not going to like it.

Well as I said before, I don't think voting is the same as 'bargaining'. As you say, simply see-sawing between who you vote for is a type of equilibrium, inertia, not an exertion of force.

Well I cannot do much else in politics. I have not power to exert. True bargaining requires leverage. Which I do not have.

[US-SSR]

Greetings from south suburban Minneapolis/St. Paul, well it's been a (relatively) quiet night in Lake Woebegon, 4100 cops, troopers and National Guard are on the scene dispersing crowds, arresting sundry journalists and largely preventing the post-curfew demonstrations and fires seen over the last several nights. Gov. Walz set to hold another presser at 10:30 pm local. Major freeways through the Twin Cities are shut down and local officials are calling possible military police reinforcement another option -- if the Governor requests it. No request for such so far, with another 6400 nonfederal law enforcement including possibly some from neighboring states reportedly on deck. My livestream sources, Unicorn Riot and RT, have apparently gone dark. We did see one Huey chopper overhead about 7 pm about 4 mi. west of MSP airport.

Rumors of outside agitator presence abound but here are the three best-sourced news pieces I've seen on that, Minneapolis Star Tribune and Washington Post being somewhat more skeptical about the presence of right-wing types than Minnesota Public Radio; Post notes only 10 of 57 arrested through Saturday am gave non-Minnesota addresses.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/05/3 ... win-cities

https://www.startribune.com/as-crowds-s ... fresh=true

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html

Be safe out there.

[San Lumen]

Well as I said before, I don't think voting is the same as 'bargaining'. As you say, simply see-sawing between who you vote for is a type of equilibrium, inertia, not an exertion of force.

Well I cannot do much else in politics. I have not power to exert. True bargaining requires leverage. Which I do not have.

Why don’t you run yourself