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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:12 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Ya know it’s becoming increasingly more likely that the military might intervene on the side of the protesters if this police violence and abuse continues to happen. The army is already sympathetic to the protesters if two more branches come out in favor or at least sympathetic to the protesters then the police needs to back down sharpish


The Air Force Master Sergeant has already spoken about it.

Holy shit Trump has turned the military against him
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:13 pm

Genivaria wrote:Saw this meme on FB. DO NOT do this. :lol2:

Cracking up at a right-wing bait?
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Postby Dominioan » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:13 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Dominioan wrote:American Civil War 2 Electric Boogaloo? I could say its possible, if the worst continues to happen.

It wouldn’t be a civil war for very long if the military sides with the protesters. At that point they pretty much demand that those in power step down or be forced out

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Postby Andsed » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:15 pm

Liriena wrote:
Andsed wrote:Yet another offense committed by the cops which they will likely not even being punished for. Fuck the police.

You know your optics are fucked beyond all redemption when you have all but the most overtly white supremacist corners of the Internet joining forces against you and wholeheartedly embracing anti-cop slogans that used to be reserved for far left niches.

I mean, for Christ's sake, r/PublicFreakout has become r/ACAB in all but name. They be calling cops "subhuman" in there. I struggle to imagine a near future where the vast majority of Americans have anything but seething disdain for cops.

I have always been someone who has been skeptical but otherwise supportive of the police. But at this point I am going full fuck the police. Fuckers have quite clearly shown that despite the fact there may be some good in there the system is beyond fucked up.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:15 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Saw this meme on FB. DO NOT do this. :lol2:

Cracking up at a right-wing bait?

I'm pretty sure it was a joke.

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Postby Tekania » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:15 pm

Estanglia wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Here in my state, several old acquaintances of mine who were together protesting got teargassed. They weren't inciting any violence, they were peacefully marching.

The cops who are consistently applying unnecessary force throughout the country right now must be the most idiotic sacks of shit. How is it that they see the attitude towards violent cops and think "well, let's just be more violent!" Fucking lunacy.


I don't know why they're doing this, but if I had to guess I think it's either they think they're immune (because a lot of cops have gotten away with similar abuses, and the big guy at the top seems more concerned with stopping the riots than stopping the police) or they want to get the protesters to shut up, and think violently suppressing them is the best way to go.


Indeed, people are protesting policy brutality, brutishly putting down the protests is like trying to put out a fire by spraying gasoline on it.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:16 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Nakena wrote:The Army appears to have sided or at least being sympathic with the protest.



Sauce: https://www.army.mil/article/236157

Holy fuck. Trump is in hot shit now

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Postby Nakena » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:16 pm

Estanglia wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Here in my state, several old acquaintances of mine who were together protesting got teargassed. They weren't inciting any violence, they were peacefully marching.

The cops who are consistently applying unnecessary force throughout the country right now must be the most idiotic sacks of shit. How is it that they see the attitude towards violent cops and think "well, let's just be more violent!" Fucking lunacy.


I don't know why they're doing this, but if I had to guess I think it's either they think they're immune (because a lot of cops have gotten away with similar abuses, and the big guy at the top seems more concerned with stopping the riots than stopping the police) or they want to get the protesters to shut up, and think violently suppressing them is the best way to go.


If you have a big stick and an social environment that reinforces, encourages and maybe even rewards such aggressive behaviour, its not hard to get into the mindset. Even moreso if theres an us vs them mentality. Bonus points for legal immunity. I think it's just about excercising violence really "and to give them what they really and always have deserved" etc. Its a psychological mindset issue and one that seems widespread in some PD's.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:16 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The Air Force Master Sergeant has already spoken about it.

Holy shit Trump has turned the military against him


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/02/poli ... index.html

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:17 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The Air Force Master Sergeant has already spoken about it.

Holy shit Trump has turned the military against him

100% guaranteed this will cause Trump to back down on any wild shit he may be mulling around in his head right now.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:17 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Holy shit Trump has turned the military against him

100% guaranteed this will cause Trump to back down on any wild shit he may be mulling around in his head right now.

That old bone spur is starting to tingle again...
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Postby Estanglia » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:18 pm

Andsed wrote:
Liriena wrote:You know your optics are fucked beyond all redemption when you have all but the most overtly white supremacist corners of the Internet joining forces against you and wholeheartedly embracing anti-cop slogans that used to be reserved for far left niches.

I mean, for Christ's sake, r/PublicFreakout has become r/ACAB in all but name. They be calling cops "subhuman" in there. I struggle to imagine a near future where the vast majority of Americans have anything but seething disdain for cops.

I have always been someone who has been skeptical but otherwise supportive of the police. But at this point I am going full fuck the police. Fuckers have quite clearly shown that despite the fact there may be some good in there the system is beyond fucked up.


If there's any good in the system, it is clearly incapable of rooting out the bad.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:19 pm

The New California Republic wrote:Well, time to up the degree of that murder charge, as clearly at the moment it is sitting too low on the basis of that autopsy report.

Charge upgraded to second degree murder.
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Postby Tekania » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:19 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Holy shit Trump has turned the military against him


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/02/poli ... index.html


Of course, see the the requirements isn't to obey all orders, the requirement as I have been a NCO know is to obey all LAWFUL orders.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:19 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Dominioan wrote:American Civil War 2 Electric Boogaloo? I could say its possible, if the worst continues to happen.

It wouldn’t be a civil war for very long if the military sides with the protesters. At that point they pretty much demand that those in power step down or be forced out

This is giving me huge Arab Spring vibes and its both fascinating and scary.
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Postby Andsed » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:20 pm

Estanglia wrote:
Andsed wrote:I have always been someone who has been skeptical but otherwise supportive of the police. But at this point I am going full fuck the police. Fuckers have quite clearly shown that despite the fact there may be some good in there the system is beyond fucked up.


If there's any good in the system, it is clearly incapable of rooting out the bad.

That it is. Waiting for the supposed good in the system to get it´s shit together is dumb. It ain´t gonna happen. Outside forces need to force change.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:20 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Holy shit Trump has turned the military against him

100% guaranteed this will cause Trump to back down on any wild shit he may be mulling around in his head right now.

He's terrified of actual confrontations so yes, most likely.
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:20 pm

Liriena wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It wouldn’t be a civil war for very long if the military sides with the protesters. At that point they pretty much demand that those in power step down or be forced out

This is giving me huge Arab Spring vibes and its both fascinating and scary.


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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:23 pm

Tekania wrote:


Of course, see the the requirements isn't to obey all orders, the requirement as I have been a NCO know is to obey all LAWFUL orders.


Of course as former NCO I didn't know that. Thank you for pointing it out to me. :P

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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:26 pm

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-w ... story.html


It looks like the murder charge against chauvin is being upgraded to murder 2. I guess Ellison wants him to get off.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:28 pm

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Your time is now libertarians, the cops have committed the most serious of offenses. Join the ACAB side.

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Ifreann wrote:Who's linking darker skin to criminality? Very clearly says "Murdered by the police", not "justly and rightfully arrested, tried, and convicted".


Because hyperbole has never been an ingredient of protest signs, ever.

I'm curious, did they mean 'proven to be murder in a court of law' or 'we didn't agree with the police'?

Either way, I'm sure that the US police does have a racism problem which is why I've said previously that they should be less trigger-happy. Also the 'not thinking about colour' applies to the police too.

I'll ask again, since you didn't answer. Who's linking darker skin to criminality? The poster clearly doesn't. I certainly never said anything of the sort. Who are you talking about? What are you talking about?


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Fartsniffage wrote:Attempted murder right here.

https://twitter.com/Terrence_STR/status ... 2308042752

"What if we used less-lethal weapons in the most lethal way possible?", cops apparently.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:28 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-nw-minneapolis-george-floyd-cops-charges-20200603-pklbuy3mk5eb5dhwo7g7oep4yi-story.html


It looks like the murder charge against chauvin is being upgraded to murder 2. I guess Ellison wants him to get off.


Or he's learned something about their prior relationship at the bar that we don't know.

But still, I think it's a bad call. This guy gets off and goodnight America.

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Postby SangMar » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:32 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-nw-minneapolis-george-floyd-cops-charges-20200603-pklbuy3mk5eb5dhwo7g7oep4yi-story.html


It looks like the murder charge against chauvin is being upgraded to murder 2. I guess Ellison wants him to get off.


Or he's learned something about their prior relationship at the bar that we don't know.

But still, I think it's a bad call. This guy gets off and goodnight America.


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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:32 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-nw-minneapolis-george-floyd-cops-charges-20200603-pklbuy3mk5eb5dhwo7g7oep4yi-story.html


It looks like the murder charge against chauvin is being upgraded to murder 2. I guess Ellison wants him to get off.


Or he's learned something about their prior relationship at the bar that we don't know.

But still, I think it's a bad call. This guy gets off and goodnight America.

Ellison is going to have to prove the initial arrest of floyd was a felony in it self. Murder 3, show the video we are done it's enough to convict.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:33 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-nw-minneapolis-george-floyd-cops-charges-20200603-pklbuy3mk5eb5dhwo7g7oep4yi-story.html


It looks like the murder charge against chauvin is being upgraded to murder 2. I guess Ellison wants him to get off.

What makes you think that?

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