America riots after Police kill unarmed Black Man

[The Lone Alliance]

Property is bought by expending your time, and has roughly the same value as a human life. Both freedom and opportunity are worth more than human lives.

Property does not have the same value as a human life.

My car is worth several months of my wages, that does not mean I get to kill someone trying to steal it.

But what if that person who stole your car uses it to run over 3 people?

Remember if a person is willing to wantonly steal other's property then it's very clear they don't care much about the lives and livelyhood of other people.

[The Black Forrest]

Property does not have the same value as a human life.

My car is worth several months of my wages, that does not mean I get to kill someone trying to steal it.

Yes, it does.
Every time, every where.

And if he shoots you first? You showed him right?

[Greed and Death]

If I own the store and it is my life savings that is on the line I am going to stop the looting and if making myself know and making it clear I will attempt to stop him he still tries to enter I will deem him a reasonable threat to my life and respond accordingly.

Stores, property, livelihoods, savings, these things can all be rebuilt, especially if you have good insurance, as any responsible small business owner should.

A human life, even when said life is engaged in an act which is morally wrong, should not be taken unless it is a direct threat to another life.

The problem with a lifetime of savings is it takes a life time to replace. People only get one of those. Very few insurance policies that cover this will be affordable for small businesses, especially in urban areas. Also telling someone who has lost everything he should have had insurance is a dick move.

You misunderstand once I make it clear I am present and telling the looter to leave and he still enters the property the looter is now a threat to my life. I am killing him because he is a threat to my life, and if it is you or me I will always come out alive.

Lastly telling people they have to lay down and take it is a tool of fascism, any system you destroy with a tool of fascism, will turn out to be a system that fascism didn't want to begin with.

[Jedi Council]

Property does not have the same value as a human life.

My car is worth several months of my wages, that does not mean I get to kill someone trying to steal it.

Yes, it does.
Every time, every where.

I should have assumed someone who claims to be King of the Incles has an incredibly disgusting disregard for human life.

[King of the Incels]

Yes, it does.
Every time, every where.

That's a ridiculous opinion to hold.

It really isn't

[Cisairse]

That's a ridiculous opinion to hold.

So is the notion that everyone should just let people help themselves to shit that doesn't belong to them at the expense of others.

"My car is worth more than your life" is an inhumane opinion to hold, I will stand by that.

[Jedi Council]

Property does not have the same value as a human life.

My car is worth several months of my wages, that does not mean I get to kill someone trying to steal it.

But what if that person who stole your car uses it to run over 3 people?

Remember if a person is willing to wantonly steal other's property then it's very clear they don't care much about the lives and livelyhood of other people.

That's just indulging in hysteria.

What if someone stealing from the clothing store I worked at took that scarf so they could strangle someone?

See how ridiculous it is? A thief should not be assumed to be a killer.

[King of the Incels]

Yes, it does.
Every time, every where.

I should have assumed someone who claims to be King of the Incles has an incredibly disgusting disregard for human life.

Thats not any sort of argument.

[The Black Forrest]

Stores, property, livelihoods, savings, these things can all be rebuilt, especially if you have good insurance, as any responsible small business owner should.

A human life, even when said life is engaged in an act which is morally wrong, should not be taken unless it is a direct threat to another life.

The problem with a lifetime of savings is it takes a life time to replace. People only get one of those. Very few insurance policies that cover this will be affordable for small businesses, especially in urban areas. Also telling someone who has lost everything he should have had insurance is a dick move.

You misunderstand once I make it clear I am present and telling the looter to leave and he still enters the property the looter is now a threat to my life. I am killing him because he is a threat to my life, and if it is you or me I will always come out alive.

Lastly telling people they have to lay down and take it is a tool of fascism, any system you destroy with a tool of fascism, will turn out to be a system that fascism didn't want to begin with.

And yet my old master for TKD. This guy was a 7th degree. He trains police and the military in hand to hand. Knows how to handle a knife like no other.

He once taught a robbery session. “If you are facing a gun and your wallet is demanded?”. He proceed to pull is wallet and tossed it. All that can be replaced; you can’t be.

[Gig em Aggies]

Yes, it does.
Every time, every where.

I should have assumed someone who claims to be King of the Incles has an incredibly disgusting disregard for human life.

watch it your making it personal and directed at a player just because of there nation name. the mods do not like that at all

[Jedi Council]

I should have assumed someone who claims to be King of the Incles has an incredibly disgusting disregard for human life.

Thats not any sort of argument.

No, but is a fairly accurate statement.

[Jedi Council]

I should have assumed someone who claims to be King of the Incles has an incredibly disgusting disregard for human life.

watch it your making it personal and directed at a player just because of there nation name. the mods do not like that at all

Feel free to report it if you believe it went too far.

I dont believe it did, but then again, neither of us are mods.

[Gig em Aggies]

Thats not any sort of argument.

No, but is a fairly accurate statement.

it can also be considered flaming

[Greed and Death]

The problem with a lifetime of savings is it takes a life time to replace. People only get one of those. Very few insurance policies that cover this will be affordable for small businesses, especially in urban areas. Also telling someone who has lost everything he should have had insurance is a dick move.

You misunderstand once I make it clear I am present and telling the looter to leave and he still enters the property the looter is now a threat to my life. I am killing him because he is a threat to my life, and if it is you or me I will always come out alive.

Lastly telling people they have to lay down and take it is a tool of fascism, any system you destroy with a tool of fascism, will turn out to be a system that fascism didn't want to begin with.

And yet my old master for TKD. This guy was a 7th degree. He trains police and the military in hand to hand. Knows how to handle a knife like no other.

He once taught a robbery session. “If you are facing a gun and your wallet is demanded?”. He proceed to pull is wallet and tossed it. All that can be replaced; you can’t be.

And for the next lesson, if you have the gun and someone demands your wallet blow their brains out ?

Seriously if you are in the position of the strength by virtue of being armed and knowing the terrain (its my shop) laying down and submitting is foolish. You have no guarantee that your life will be spared for such an act of submission, and you give up your only guarantee of survival by submitting.

[King of the Incels]

Thats not any sort of argument.

No, but is a fairly accurate statement.

Its not. And your attempts at flaming make you look bad. Not me.

[Paddy O Fernature]

So is the notion that everyone should just let people help themselves to shit that doesn't belong to them at the expense of others.

"My car is worth more than your life" is an inhumane opinion to hold, I will stand by that.

You seem to be operating on the false opinion that it's the vehicles owner who made that decision and not the scumbag deciding to steal what doesn't belong to him.

[United States of Devonta]

Protester says he "loves" the police and is promptly arrested.

And they wonder why some people react violently towards them. This guy was trying to reason with all of them on a human level and all the dozens of cops there decided to be monsters and take away his first amendment rights. Not one stopped it.

"I am not your enemy"

[Cisairse]

"My car is worth more than your life" is an inhumane opinion to hold, I will stand by that.

You seem to be operating on the false opinion that it's the vehicles owner who made that decision and not the scumbag deciding to steal what doesn't belong to him.

Generally speaking when someone kills someone and openly admits intent to do so, the death is the fault of the person committing murder, not the person being murdered.

[Jedi Council]

"My car is worth more than your life" is an inhumane opinion to hold, I will stand by that.

You seem to be operating on the false opinion that it's the vehicles owner who made that decision and not the scumbag deciding to steal what doesn't belong to him.

Why should stealing qualify as an offense worthy of death?

[King of the Incels]

You seem to be operating on the false opinion that it's the vehicles owner who made that decision and not the scumbag deciding to steal what doesn't belong to him.

Generally speaking when someone kills someone and openly admits intent to do so, the death is the fault of the person committing murder, not the person being murdered.

Its not murder when defending yourself or your property.

[Paddy O Fernature]

You seem to be operating on the false opinion that it's the vehicles owner who made that decision and not the scumbag deciding to steal what doesn't belong to him.

Generally speaking when someone kills someone and openly admits intent to do so, the death is the fault of the person committing murder, not the person being murdered.

Daily reminder that not all killings are murder.

You seem to be operating on the false opinion that it's the vehicles owner who made that decision and not the scumbag deciding to steal what doesn't belong to him.

Why should stealing qualify as an offense worthy of death?

Ask the guy stealing the vehicle, as he is the one that has decided to gamble with his life.

[Jedi Council]

Generally speaking when someone kills someone and openly admits intent to do so, the death is the fault of the person committing murder, not the person being murdered.

Its not murder when defending yourself or your property.

When defending yourself? No.

When defending an inanimate object? Yes.

[King of the Incels]

You seem to be operating on the false opinion that it's the vehicles owner who made that decision and not the scumbag deciding to steal what doesn't belong to him.

Why should stealing qualify as an offense worthy of death?

Because property is somewhat in the same value as human life. Since it requires spending human life to acrue.

[Cisairse]

Generally speaking when someone kills someone and openly admits intent to do so, the death is the fault of the person committing murder, not the person being murdered.

Its not murder when defending yourself or your property.

No, it really is.

[King of the Incels]

Its not murder when defending yourself or your property.

No, it really is.

nope.