America riots after Police kill unarmed Black Man

[Dominioan]

Not the good ones.

All of the good cops being fired for being good cops would make the problem impossible to ignore.

But it would eliminate the only source of goodness the police force had, and leave the bad ones free to do what they want.

[Aureumterra]

Nice to see you think that assaulting the free press is funny now.

Stop, just don’t

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I've been tear gased in a gas chamber, back in basic training. It sucks, it hurts, and I'd rather be punched a few times in the face. It is assault.

I was tear gassed in a movie theater. I concur.

Smell-o-vision. Never good, but terrible in a war movie.

[West Leas Oros 2]

I was tear gassed in a movie theater. I concur.

....what kind of movie were you watching?

Must have been a real tear jerker.

[Andsed]

I was tear gassed in a movie theater. I concur.

....what kind of movie were you watching?

One that must have been really concerned with being immersive.

[Cannot think of a name]

Nice to see you think that assaulting the free press is funny now.

I have to say...and I have no place to really talk about this, my fb is more of a professional tool and no one is interested in my ramblings especially when I need them to refer me for shit and here, well...

But I've been watching the way these things are covered for a really long time. When the riots after Rodney King happened to every popular political uprising since, aids protests, anti war protests, womens protests, economic protests, various other times a black man was killed by the police.

There's something a little different this time around. The news is less willing to tar the protest or gloss over the killing of George Floyd and the history of mistreatment of blacks by the police, they are more dogmatic in drawing a line between the vandals and looters versus the protesters.

And I have a theory about what's different this time, why the press more so than in other instances are if not on the side of the protesters at least empathetic to them.

More black representation in the news. This time it's black anchors having to cover this issue. There are more perspectives and voices within the apparatus and not just in the voices from the people, and it's made a difference.

Representation matters.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

....what kind of movie were you watching?

One that must have been really concerned with being immersive.

Thank fuck he wasn't watching one about world war I trench warfare then.

[Cisairse]

Not the good ones.

All of the good cops being fired for being good cops would make the problem impossible to ignore.

The problem is already impossible to ignore, that's why we're in the middle of an uprising

[Thermodolia]

The last bit is why we need an independent commission to investigate and oversee the police. That way the good officers can Anonymously report this shit without fear of reprisals

absolutely and another reform we could have is requiring officers to reside in the city they serve

I’d go further and say they should live in the communities they serve

[Nobel Hobos 2]

All of the good cops being fired for being good cops would make the problem impossible to ignore.

But it would eliminate the only source of goodness the police force had, and leave the bad ones free to do what they want.

And by peer-group pressure, the passively bad ones would become actively bad. And the whole lot could be charged and imprisoned.

A bit too accelerationist for my taste.

[Ors Might]

All of the good cops being fired for being good cops would make the problem impossible to ignore.

But it would eliminate the only source of goodness the police force had, and leave the bad ones free to do what they want.

Indeed. Give them all the rope they need to hang themselves. Besides, it’s not like the good cops are gonna stop trying to draw attention to abuses just because they got fired. That’d be a whole lot of new activists fighting for accountability.

[San Lumen]

absolutely and another reform we could have is requiring officers to reside in the city they serve

I’d go further and say they should live in the communities they serve

Why is residing in the city not far enough?

[Cisairse]

This pretty much collaborates a personal account of what happened in Richmond that I see earlier on this thread.

I used to believe in the "good cop vs. bad cop" narrative but things like this are making me change my mind. Not one has been punished and not one, that we know of, tried to stop the unprovoked firing of tear gas. We need a top to bottom overhaul on policing in America. Massive reforms. Many good cops are probably afraid they will lose their jobs, so they wont do the right thing.

The last bit is why we need an independent commission to investigate and oversee the police. That way the good officers can Anonymously report this shit without fear of reprisals

NJ's AG today announced that they're implementing a statewide licensing system for local police, to make it more possible for police who commit acts of brutality to be prevented from working elsewhere after they're fired.

IMO that's a great step forward.

[West Leas Oros 2]

absolutely and another reform we could have is requiring officers to reside in the city they serve

I’d go further and say they should live in the communities they serve

What they had to be elected by the community first?

[Ors Might]

But it would eliminate the only source of goodness the police force had, and leave the bad ones free to do what they want.

And by peer-group pressure, the passively bad ones would become actively bad. And the whole lot could be charged and imprisoned.

A bit too accelerationist for my taste.

It probably would have a lot of short term pain, I ain’t gonna lie. The fallout would maybe be just barely worth it.

[Nakena]

Some update on the situation in DC. Military Police has been deploying in numbers:

https://twitter.com/petworthnewvie/stat ... 3366859779 < Video

https://twitter.com/MonaThinavongsa/sta ... 8648568832 < Pix

[Cisairse]

I’d go further and say they should live in the communities they serve

Why is residing in the city not far enough?

Yuppies policing Harlem isn't better than randos from Westchester doing it

[Nobel Hobos 2]

absolutely and another reform we could have is requiring officers to reside in the city they serve

I’d go further and say they should live in the communities they serve

We had this before. What about high crime areas? They'd either have to go easy on crime, or be in danger at home.

[San Lumen]

I’d go further and say they should live in the communities they serve

What they had to be elected by the community first?

electing all police officers is that what your suggesting? I think electing sheriffs is good but individual officers is a terrible idea not to mention impractical

[Dominioan]

I’d go further and say they should live in the communities they serve

What they had to be elected by the community first?

iNcReDibLe

[Greater vakolicci haven]

absolutely and another reform we could have is requiring officers to reside in the city they serve

I’d go further and say they should live in the communities they serve

Even better, I'd say that they have to live in the station. Rather than humans, we should have giant pink and blue robots with flashing lights on their heads so you can see them a mile off, and they should be mandated to come into the pub on a Friday night in order to sing karaoke. However, they are allowed days off which are known as 'free for all Fridays,' because every one of them has the same day each off each week.
This is my police reform and anti-crime policy designed to ensure fairness and stability in the years ahead.

[San Lumen]

I’d go further and say they should live in the communities they serve

We had this before. What about high crime areas? They'd either have to go easy on crime, or be in danger at home.

If your not prepared to deal with the dangers of being a cop don't become one.

[SangMar]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-44640065

See, these are good cops.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-47706095

Same story - it’s not the police being shitty this time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-50688511

Same story again - except, the police got their way in the end.

There are good cops, they just need to speak up.

[Cisairse]

What they had to be elected by the community first?

electing all police officers is that what your suggesting? I think electing sheriffs is good but individual officers is a terrible idea not to mention impractical

I think it's worth a shot.

[Thermodolia]

I’ve already explained to you why they don’t speak up. Speaking up is a lot harder to do than you realize, change is even harder

if a majority did what would they do? Perhaps they need to stop being afraid

It’s really easy for you to say that when you haven’t faced what happens to those who attempt to speak out. You get fired at best and killed at worst.

Not a lot of people want to lose their jobs. Which is why we need a system where officers can anonymously report things.

There unfortunately isn’t a majority who want to expose cops. Hell a poster here was saying that their father who was the fucking sheriff was having issues trying to reform the system. If the leadership has issues trying to make changes what makes you think that a single low level officer can make a difference?

The level of abuse is so bad that it’s on par with those trapped in abusive relationships, it’s really easy for us on the outside to say that they should just run or fight back but when you are in those situations things are a lot different