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Postby San Lumen » Sun May 31, 2020 10:28 pm

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San Lumen wrote:Yeah how dare he question police


You're missing the point.

Because you choose to. :roll:

The Republican Party is beyond pathetic at this point. It was state patrol. He votes on their budget so technically they are answerable to him
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun May 31, 2020 10:30 pm

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Infected Mushroom wrote:I hope that the police will do what it takes to restore justice and law and order in America.

America may want to adopt a variation of the HKPF’s Minimum Necessary Force doctrine. Controlled and measured use of force is the key to dispersing the rioters. I see that they’ve already begun to use rubber bullets, tear gas, and shields. The curfew is an interesting.

The National Guard has been mobilized; now the question us, how will it be used?

America has to play it really carefully. The last thing they would want is for this to go on for months. They should act swiftly.

No, the American police definitely do not need to emulate PRC police any more than they already do.


I wouldn’t be surprised if the HKPF has by now, become the world’s most experienced, well-trained, well-equipped anti riot force in world history. They’ve been dealing with similar problems for over a year and made tremendous progress (street protests went from 1 million plus to less than 50 people last weekend).

Now that the USA faces a similar threat, I think they should look at what the HKPF did on HK, apply it to America (of course while taking into account factors unique or contextual to America) and go from there. Take the good, note the bad (don’t copy that) and execute the battle plans carefully.

The water cannon has been really effective in HK. Do the American police also have these types of capabilities? They might want to look into it. It’s non-lethal if used correctly, and it causes pretty good dispersal even against really destructive groups of rioters. Water cannons can also be used as improvised on the spot to put out dangerous fires. Firearms should always be a LASt resort.
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Postby Slavakino » Sun May 31, 2020 10:39 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:No, the American police definitely do not need to emulate PRC police any more than they already do.


I wouldn’t be surprised if the HKPF has by now, become the world’s most experienced, well-trained, well-equipped anti riot force in world history. They’ve been dealing with similar problems for over a year and made tremendous progress (street protests went from 1 million plus to less than 50 people last weekend).

Now that the USA faces a similar threat, I think they should look at what the HKPF did on HK, apply it to America (of course while taking into account factors unique or contextual to America) and go from there. Take the good, note the bad (don’t copy that) and execute the battle plans carefully.

The water cannon has been really effective in HK. Do the American police also have these types of capabilities? They might want to look into it. It’s non-lethal if used correctly, and it causes pretty good dispersal even against really destructive groups of rioters. Water cannons can also be used as improvised on the spot to put out dangerous fires. Firearms should always be a LASt resort.

You'd think by the amount of protests/riots the US had they'd be more experienced but turns out no
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Postby Brunswick-upon-Raritan » Sun May 31, 2020 10:48 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:No, the American police definitely do not need to emulate PRC police any more than they already do.


I wouldn’t be surprised if the HKPF has by now, become the world’s most experienced, well-trained, well-equipped anti riot force in world history. They’ve been dealing with similar problems for over a year and made tremendous progress (street protests went from 1 million plus to less than 50 people last weekend).

Now that the USA faces a similar threat, I think they should look at what the HKPF did on HK, apply it to America (of course while taking into account factors unique or contextual to America) and go from there. Take the good, note the bad (don’t copy that) and execute the battle plans carefully.

The water cannon has been really effective in HK. Do the American police also have these types of capabilities? They might want to look into it. It’s non-lethal if used correctly, and it causes pretty good dispersal even against really destructive groups of rioters. Water cannons can also be used as improvised on the spot to put out dangerous fires. Firearms should always be a LASt resort.


HK very different from the USA. It's basically monoracial and the city is super developed. Protests in the USA have had high racial tensions and have taken place in very different environments, with Minneapolis being very different from New York, LA, Dallas, Portland, etc. and really only New York is sort of comparable to HK in scale, and the HK protests were way, way bigger. Also water cannons would never be used in the USA because of optics. Looks too much like the civil rights movement. USA has LRADs instead.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Sun May 31, 2020 10:50 pm

So things have settled down a bit right
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Postby Brunswick-upon-Raritan » Sun May 31, 2020 10:51 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:So things have settled down a bit right


Weekend is over
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sun May 31, 2020 10:52 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:No, the American police definitely do not need to emulate PRC police any more than they already do.


I wouldn’t be surprised if the HKPF has by now, become the world’s most experienced, well-trained, well-equipped anti riot force in world history. They’ve been dealing with similar problems for over a year and made tremendous progress (street protests went from 1 million plus to less than 50 people last weekend).

Now that the USA faces a similar threat, I think they should look at what the HKPF did on HK, apply it to America (of course while taking into account factors unique or contextual to America) and go from there. Take the good, note the bad (don’t copy that) and execute the battle plans carefully.

The water cannon has been really effective in HK. Do the American police also have these types of capabilities? They might want to look into it. It’s non-lethal if used correctly, and it causes pretty good dispersal even against really destructive groups of rioters. Water cannons can also be used as improvised on the spot to put out dangerous fires. Firearms should always be a LASt resort.


American civilians have more small arms than the Chinese and Russian militaries put together. Strong arm tactics like water cannons, and such are a bad idea.
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Postby Brunswick-upon-Raritan » Sun May 31, 2020 10:53 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I wouldn’t be surprised if the HKPF has by now, become the world’s most experienced, well-trained, well-equipped anti riot force in world history. They’ve been dealing with similar problems for over a year and made tremendous progress (street protests went from 1 million plus to less than 50 people last weekend).

Now that the USA faces a similar threat, I think they should look at what the HKPF did on HK, apply it to America (of course while taking into account factors unique or contextual to America) and go from there. Take the good, note the bad (don’t copy that) and execute the battle plans carefully.

The water cannon has been really effective in HK. Do the American police also have these types of capabilities? They might want to look into it. It’s non-lethal if used correctly, and it causes pretty good dispersal even against really destructive groups of rioters. Water cannons can also be used as improvised on the spot to put out dangerous fires. Firearms should always be a LASt resort.


American civilians have more small arms than the Chinese and Russian militaries put together. Strong arm tactics like water cannons, and such are a bad idea.


I like to think that Americans think their small arms make them tougher than Chinese and Russian nukes.
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Postby Dresderstan » Sun May 31, 2020 10:54 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:So things have settled down a bit right

If only. What a way to start off June.

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Postby Immoren » Sun May 31, 2020 10:55 pm

Brunswick-upon-Raritan wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
American civilians have more small arms than the Chinese and Russian militaries put together. Strong arm tactics like water cannons, and such are a bad idea.


I like to think that Americans think their small arms make them tougher than Chinese and Russian nukes.



Use a small arm to disable the hand that launches the nuke.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun May 31, 2020 10:56 pm

Brunswick-upon-Raritan wrote:
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American civilians have more small arms than the Chinese and Russian militaries put together. Strong arm tactics like water cannons, and such are a bad idea.


I like to think that Americans think their small arms make them tougher than Chinese and Russian nukes.

When fighting cops ? Certainly. Not many governments would toss a nuke on a city in their own country to end a protest.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun May 31, 2020 10:59 pm

Brunswick-upon-Raritan wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
American civilians have more small arms than the Chinese and Russian militaries put together. Strong arm tactics like water cannons, and such are a bad idea.


I like to think that Americans think their small arms make them tougher than Chinese and Russian nukes.

That has nothing to do with anything.
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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Sun May 31, 2020 11:00 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:No, the American police definitely do not need to emulate PRC police any more than they already do.


I wouldn’t be surprised if the HKPF has by now, become the world’s most experienced, well-trained, well-equipped anti riot force in world history. They’ve been dealing with similar problems for over a year and made tremendous progress (street protests went from 1 million plus to less than 50 people last weekend).

Now that the USA faces a similar threat, I think they should look at what the HKPF did on HK, apply it to America (of course while taking into account factors unique or contextual to America) and go from there. Take the good, note the bad (don’t copy that) and execute the battle plans carefully.

The water cannon has been really effective in HK. Do the American police also have these types of capabilities? They might want to look into it. It’s non-lethal if used correctly, and it causes pretty good dispersal even against really destructive groups of rioters. Water cannons can also be used as improvised on the spot to put out dangerous fires. Firearms should always be a LASt resort.


HKPF has no law to arrest protesters,that's why they're so restrained.HKPF is forced to adopt negative measures.In the US, the same behavior would expose protesters to several felony charges.
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Postby Nevertopia » Sun May 31, 2020 11:02 pm

dont let this threat of escalation distract you from the fact that a police officer murdered george floyd and there needs to be checks and balances put into place so that police in america are held more accountable.
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Postby Slavakino » Sun May 31, 2020 11:03 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:So things have settled down a bit right

Good. Hopefully, people can go back to work and shopping without getting bashed or shot at
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sun May 31, 2020 11:04 pm

Slavakino wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:So things have settled down a bit right

Good. Hopefully, people can go back to work and shopping without getting bashed or shot at

Daytime stuff everywhere has mostly stayed fine from what I've heard, it's later afternoon into night where you're more likely to run into things (depending on city)

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Insurrection Act has to act due to events unfolding in DC. It has calmed down by now but if it gets worse it has to be enabled
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Lord Dominator wrote:
Slavakino wrote:Good. Hopefully, people can go back to work and shopping without getting bashed or shot at

Daytime stuff everywhere has mostly stayed fine from what I've heard, it's later afternoon into night where you're more likely to run into things (depending on city)

The cops will shoot at you at night due to curfew that's for sure
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Slavakino wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Daytime stuff everywhere has mostly stayed fine from what I've heard, it's later afternoon into night where you're more likely to run into things (depending on city)

The cops will shoot at you at night due to curfew that's for sure


Even rubber bullets can be rather brutal.
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Postby Slavakino » Sun May 31, 2020 11:32 pm

Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:
Slavakino wrote:The cops will shoot at you at night due to curfew that's for sure


Even rubber bullets can be rather brutal.

No shit. If it was a rubber slug, may god have mercy on your soul
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