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by SD_Film Artists » Sun May 31, 2020 1:46 pm
The Two Jerseys wrote:SangMar wrote:I really wish Britain wouldn’t import American cultural and racial issues - we have our own to fix, we can’t fix the ones of a nation that involve centuries of oppression and segregation. (Inb4 British Empire - as I’m referring to the UK mainland).
Like that protest today - protestors chanting “don’t kill us” at unarmed UK cops... who proceeded, in true cop fashion to do... nothing? I mean, it’s a protest in solidarity for George Floyd - but police in Manchester and the Met didn’t murder him. Then there’s the Mark Duggan shit. Gross. I have to say I also loved the idiots asking cops at Downing Street about who did they “serve and protect”? Ah yes, that American police motto - obviously used by British police too apparently.
I swear some people in the UK think we’re an American state - they wouldn’t protest if this killing occurred in Australia or Canada. As they don’t seem Britain’s issues to be similar to theirs.
Props to themselves and the cops for not starting shit though. That’s the good news. I just hope London and Manchester don’t get a 2nd Covid-19 wave thanks to this. It’ll effect the BAME members of the protest horrifically - and we don’t know why they’re dying so much in comparison to whites and East Asians anyway.
I thought the British police motto is "To Serve Fixed Penalty Notices and Protect Our Finances"...
by Kanadorika » Sun May 31, 2020 1:47 pm
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by SangMar » Sun May 31, 2020 1:52 pm
SD_Film Artists wrote:The Two Jerseys wrote:I thought the British police motto is "To Serve Fixed Penalty Notices and Protect Our Finances"...
True. The UK police don't have time to shoot minorities when there's some bikers with smaller-than-regulation number plates and making enough noise for Mr Nimby to complain.
by SD_Film Artists » Sun May 31, 2020 1:56 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Greed and Death wrote:
They were failing to comply with an order to go inside.
They where on there own property and not doing anything.
The cops responded with non lethal rounds. Is that a good response to you? For doing nothing on property you have a right to be on you get shot at?
by Bienenhalde » Sun May 31, 2020 1:56 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:I'm of the opinion that America's landscape should constitute the entire planet.
by Gravlen » Sun May 31, 2020 2:00 pm
by Aureumterra » Sun May 31, 2020 2:04 pm
Shofercia wrote:San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/house/500313-ocasio-cortez-rips-de-blasio-after-police-cruiser-drives-into-crowd-of
Rep. Ocasio-Cortez said De Blasio's remarks on a police officer ramming a crowd were totally unacceptable and such actions should never be normalized or justified in any way.
Even if you're not a fan of AOC, the broken clock metaphor works, and in this case, she's completely right.
by Aureumterra » Sun May 31, 2020 2:05 pm
Gravlen wrote:
I was amused by him impliying that there are no systemic problems, before suggesting that there might be something wrong with a system which lets a man such as Derek Chauvin continue to operate as a police officer.
by Gravlen » Sun May 31, 2020 2:06 pm
Aureumterra wrote:Gravlen wrote:I was amused by him impliying that there are no systemic problems, before suggesting that there might be something wrong with a system which lets a man such as Derek Chauvin continue to operate as a police officer.
Wasn’t he fired and apprehended? Or are you talking about his past abuses of power?
by Australian rePublic » Sun May 31, 2020 2:14 pm
The Alma Mater wrote:Australian rePublic wrote:Ignorance in the highest. For one thing, if these rioters set businesses on fire, they'll exasserbate Covid's economic damage, which will lead to widespread poverty. Secondly, they're not helping their anti-brutality cause by being violent. Most people will see it as a contradiction. Adding to that, by setting black people's houses on fire, you're contradicting your anti-violence against black people cause
I mean, those "police office" who did that to George, the poor victim, were violent thugs. Some of those violent thugs will probably get away with it, and that churns my stomach just thinking about it.
Whether or not he's a criminal, the very fact thug police officers can tourture a non-violent human being to death. Granted, they probably didn't intend to kill him, but thsy did intend to to tourture. It wasn't an accidental slip of the hand or anything which lead to a tragic conclusion. His death whether or not intentional, was caused by malice. The very fact that those thug police officers faced no consequences for their thuggery shits all over American ideals. The very fact that these thug police officers got away with it shits all over everything that Americans have fought for, and everything that makes America a good country.
However, by retalating with violence and thuggery, especially over 1000 miles away from where the incident occured, isn't gonna win any over to your cause, and you'd be lucky if it doesn't turn anyone away from your cause.
Small flaw in your reasoning: "the incident" was just the last straw. The protests are about decades of "incidents" and the underlying pattern of society making it clear black lives do not matter.
At least, that is how the black people in question feel it. Perhaps they are objectively wrong. But when did feelings care about facts ?
by Aureumterra » Sun May 31, 2020 2:16 pm
Australian rePublic wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:
Small flaw in your reasoning: "the incident" was just the last straw. The protests are about decades of "incidents" and the underlying pattern of society making it clear black lives do not matter.
At least, that is how the black people in question feel it. Perhaps they are objectively wrong. But when did feelings care about facts ?
Indeed, but still, you're not going to convince many that you're anti-violence after having set a shop on fire? What about police brutality against white people in America? Does that never happen, or do people just not care about it?
by Cisairse » Sun May 31, 2020 2:16 pm
Australian rePublic wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:
Small flaw in your reasoning: "the incident" was just the last straw. The protests are about decades of "incidents" and the underlying pattern of society making it clear black lives do not matter.
At least, that is how the black people in question feel it. Perhaps they are objectively wrong. But when did feelings care about facts ?
Indeed, but still, you're not going to convince many that you're anti-violence after having set a shop on fire? What about police brutality against white people in America? Does that never happen, or do people just not care about it?
by No State Here » Sun May 31, 2020 2:22 pm
by Paddy O Fernature » Sun May 31, 2020 2:23 pm
Aureumterra wrote:Australian rePublic wrote:Indeed, but still, you're not going to convince many that you're anti-violence after having set a shop on fire? What about police brutality against white people in America? Does that never happen, or do people just not care about it?
Police brutality happens against everyone, which is why I never agreed with the black lives matter movement, because while black people are killed by police in high numbers, police brutality affects everyone regardless of race. A sweeping anti-police brutality movement would be more influential than one segregated by something as trivial as race
by Aureumterra » Sun May 31, 2020 2:27 pm
by Fartsniffage » Sun May 31, 2020 2:28 pm
Paddy O Fernature wrote:Aureumterra wrote:Police brutality happens against everyone, which is why I never agreed with the black lives matter movement, because while black people are killed by police in high numbers, police brutality affects everyone regardless of race. A sweeping anti-police brutality movement would be more influential than one segregated by something as trivial as race
Just a small nitpick, but white people are gunned downed at almost 2x the rate as black people by police in the US, not the other way around. Other then that, agree with you on the rest.
by SD_Film Artists » Sun May 31, 2020 2:31 pm
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by Kowani » Sun May 31, 2020 2:33 pm
Paddy O Fernature wrote:Aureumterra wrote:Police brutality happens against everyone, which is why I never agreed with the black lives matter movement, because while black people are killed by police in high numbers, police brutality affects everyone regardless of race. A sweeping anti-police brutality movement would be more influential than one segregated by something as trivial as race
Just a small nitpick, but white people are gunned downed at almost 2x the rate as black people by police in the US, not the other way around. Other then that, agree with you on the rest.
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