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Senkaku
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Postby Senkaku » Sat May 30, 2020 7:30 pm

Novus America wrote:
Andsed wrote:Oh yeah. With all these nation wide riots and protest Corona is going to have a field day. Who would have though police brutality would be the inciting incident in extending the lockdown?


It actually makes some sense.
The lock downs leave people in desperation and poverty so people get angry and riot, but that fixes nothing, just makes it worse. The lock downs are no doubt part of the cause of despair and anger. But of course rioting does not fix the disease.

Pretty sure there are deeper forces at work than “lockdown bad”, yeah
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat May 30, 2020 7:30 pm

Senkaku wrote:Also does anyone have up to date info on what’s going down in Seattle? Apparently a guy (suspected Proud Boy infiltrator from what I’ve read??) grabbed a rifle out of a van that was being smashed up, and Durkan declared a curfew 15 min before it went into effect


I've seen nothing reliably saying the dude was a Proud Boy, looked like a standard anarchist type
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Postby Novus America » Sat May 30, 2020 7:31 pm

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That is the symptom, not the disease but it is something I might consider. But I have limited to spend on donations and ever more people needing it.

The problems are much deeper than that. Much deeper than the man first murdered by a police officer.

Decades of outsourcing the jobs of urban communities to slaves labor overseas, collapse of social institutions, lack of purpose, corruption in city governments, people blindly re-electing the same people they riot against (you get the government you vote for), etc.


There are also groups working on deeper issues, if you feel like charity is too simplistic.


I mean again I vote. Many working on the deeper issues are right about the disease but completely wrong about the cure. No group I have found yet has it right.
But I will vote for the least bad candidate.
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Postby Novus America » Sat May 30, 2020 7:32 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Novus America wrote:
It actually makes some sense.
The lock downs leave people in desperation and poverty so people get angry and riot, but that fixes nothing, just makes it worse. The lock downs are no doubt part of the cause of despair and anger. But of course rioting does not fix the disease.

Pretty sure there are deeper forces at work than “lockdown bad”, yeah


Obviously. Much deeper. The lock downs just exacerbated existing problems that can be traced back decades.
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Albrenia » Sat May 30, 2020 7:33 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Novus America wrote:
It actually makes some sense.
The lock downs leave people in desperation and poverty so people get angry and riot, but that fixes nothing, just makes it worse. The lock downs are no doubt part of the cause of despair and anger. But of course rioting does not fix the disease.

Pretty sure there are deeper forces at work than “lockdown bad”, yeah


Lockdown boredom and worries probably gave some fuel to the fire, but yet another murder of a minority person by the police with no reaction lit the match, and the violent response to the originally peaceful protests tossed that match into the fuel.

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Postby Brunswick-upon-Raritan » Sat May 30, 2020 7:35 pm

Novus America wrote:
Brunswick-upon-Raritan wrote:
There are also groups working on deeper issues, if you feel like charity is too simplistic.


I mean again I vote. Many working on the deeper issues are right about the disease but completely wrong about the cure. No group I have found yet has it right.
But I will vote for the least bad candidate.


Frankly, I don’t think voting is a very profound exercise of civic duty, and the escalation of political commitment that these protests have created is again what I think will be the lasting contribution of these chaotic days. Not that voting is useless, but on its own it’s a very solitary activity, the opposite of politics.
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Postby Hakons » Sat May 30, 2020 7:36 pm

There's so much disinformation and conspiracy flying around on social media
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat May 30, 2020 7:36 pm

Kowani wrote:In light of the constantly changing situation, the thread title has been updated.

Objection: countries are physically incapable 0f rioting :p

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat May 30, 2020 7:37 pm

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The answer is Trump being elected so that things like police reform get ignored to own the SJWs.

Don't blame Trump for this, crazies have existed forwver before Trump, and will exist for ever after Trump.

The Democrats have controlled Minneapolis since before any of these officers joined the force.

Clearly it's Trump's fault that the Democrats didn't spend the decades they've controlled the city government cleaning up the police force...
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Postby Evacillian » Sat May 30, 2020 7:38 pm

It is unfortunate that with so many people desperately looking for jobs- just as things were beginning to open back up- many businesses will not be able to hire and may be forced to close because of these riots.
It is also unfortunate that, as usual, the negative will outshine the positive. Any positive effect that the activists hoped to achieve is deeply contaminated (both figuratively- violence- and literally- Covid)
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat May 30, 2020 7:38 pm

Senkaku wrote:
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corporations are people and all lives matter uwu

This but unironically.
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Neanderthaland » Sat May 30, 2020 7:38 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Kowani wrote:In light of the constantly changing situation, the thread title has been updated.

Objection: countries are physically incapable 0f rioting :p

Sure they are. It's just called "revolution."
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Postby Novus America » Sat May 30, 2020 7:38 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Pretty sure there are deeper forces at work than “lockdown bad”, yeah


Lockdown boredom and worries probably gave some fuel to the fire, but yet another murder of a minority person by the police with no reaction lit the match, and the violent response to the originally peaceful protests tossed that match into the fuel.


And all that building up on decades of stuff. Outsourcing, lead contamination, the dismantling of the mental health system, collapse of critical civic institutions (including the massive downsizing of the National Guard from the late 60s onward), corrupt city governments (yeah we hate our city governments but just re elect the same people from the same parties) that we ourselves elected.

The tinder was already piled high enough. Dump some lock down gasoline, a police killing match and off it goes.
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby The Marlborough » Sat May 30, 2020 7:40 pm

Ah SLC SWAT has deemed elderly men with canes to be an immediate threat.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat May 30, 2020 7:40 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Objection: countries are physically incapable 0f rioting :p

Sure they are. It's just called "revolution."

Still people, not the anthropomorphic representation of a political unit ;)

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Postby Slavakino » Sat May 30, 2020 7:41 pm

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Postby Kowani » Sat May 30, 2020 7:41 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Kowani wrote:In light of the constantly changing situation, the thread title has been updated.

Objection: countries are physically incapable 0f rioting :p

I’m sure America throws a Tantrum in Hetalia at some point.
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Postby Novus America » Sat May 30, 2020 7:42 pm

Brunswick-upon-Raritan wrote:
Novus America wrote:
I mean again I vote. Many working on the deeper issues are right about the disease but completely wrong about the cure. No group I have found yet has it right.
But I will vote for the least bad candidate.


Frankly, I don’t think voting is a very profound exercise of civic duty, and the escalation of political commitment that these protests have created is again what I think will be the lasting contribution of these chaotic days. Not that voting is useless, but on its own it’s a very solitary activity, the opposite of politics.


Again a fail to see this a an “escalating of civic commitments”. Sure the point of voting is somewhat undermined when they will just re elect the same parties and people to run the cities.
Sure politics is a social activity but I do not know of any groups I think have it right.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat May 30, 2020 7:42 pm

Kowani wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Objection: countries are physically incapable 0f rioting :p

I’m sure America throws a Tantrum in Hetalia at some point.

Boooo

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat May 30, 2020 7:42 pm

Kowani wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Objection: countries are physically incapable 0f rioting :p

I’m sure America throws a Tantrum in Hetalia at some point.

Impossible, America is the hero.
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Postby Brunswick-upon-Raritan » Sat May 30, 2020 7:43 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Don't blame Trump for this, crazies have existed forwver before Trump, and will exist for ever after Trump.

The Democrats have controlled Minneapolis since before any of these officers joined the force.

Clearly it's Trump's fault that the Democrats didn't spend the decades they've controlled the city government cleaning up the police force...


Trump's gov't outsources jobs just like Democrats before him.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Sat May 30, 2020 7:44 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Kowani wrote:In light of the constantly changing situation, the thread title has been updated.

Objection: countries are physically incapable 0f rioting :p


Aren't there riots going on in Japan right now
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat May 30, 2020 7:45 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Objection: countries are physically incapable 0f rioting :p


Aren't there riots going on in Japan right now

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Postby Evacillian » Sat May 30, 2020 7:45 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Objection: countries are physically incapable 0f rioting :p


Aren't there riots going on in Japan right now


Don't know about Japan- Maybe you are thinking about Hong Kong?
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