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Postby Vassenor » Fri May 29, 2020 7:08 am

Purpelia wrote:
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At which point the police will teargass and rubber bullet you.
Cause that in fact is what happened.

Yes and than you keep protesting. Protests are a contest of will between you and the other side. Your goal is either to make them give up through sheer negative publicity or drive them to acts so heinous their superiors chose to distance them self from them and scapegoat them whilst giving you what you want. It's literally all about creating enough bad PR for someone that they give up.


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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri May 29, 2020 7:08 am

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That's ironic considering Trump impedes justice all the time.

Like I stated last night, starting uprisings and destroying stuff only gives trump more excuses to take dictator god powers


I always worry about him doing that. He already seems to be doing it even without riots (executive order against twitter).
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri May 29, 2020 7:08 am

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Not in the least.

Also look at his reelection on that platform when the economy was in the 1970's funk.

But was Nixon the reason why the economy stunk?

Because Trump is the reason why this economy stinks.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri May 29, 2020 7:08 am

Vassenor wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Yes and than you keep protesting. Protests are a contest of will between you and the other side. Your goal is either to make them give up through sheer negative publicity or drive them to acts so heinous their superiors chose to distance them self from them and scapegoat them whilst giving you what you want. It's literally all about creating enough bad PR for someone that they give up.


Remember, peaceful protest always works. Just ignore all the times in history where it hasn't.


Nelson Mandela once believed peaceful protests work. Then he became a bomber, and I don't blame him.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Geneviev » Fri May 29, 2020 7:09 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:Odds of Trump running and winning on a law and order campaign increasing.


Nothing says law and order like demanding people be shot for exercising their first amendment rights.

Right. Just act like their actions were the more criminal action, and it might even work. He got himself elected once and it will happen again.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri May 29, 2020 7:10 am

Purpelia wrote:
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I guess there is no right way to protest. You peacefully protest and they teargas you. You violently protest and they say you're a thug. It's like the police don't want to have their authority challenged.

Only if your goal is a quick and easy fix. Those don't exists in reality btw.


As I said, no matter what you do, theyll have an issue with it.

The MPD killed Floyd in cold blood. As far as I'm concerned, they deserved far worse than what happened to them last night, although I am pleased with the current structual integrity of precinct three.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri May 29, 2020 7:10 am

Geneviev wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/minneapolis-cnn-crew-arrested/index.html

A cnn reporter was arrested live on air yesterday. Governor Walz ordered their release this morning

It's almost like the police are abusing their power.

They are

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri May 29, 2020 7:10 am

Vassenor wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Yes and than you keep protesting. Protests are a contest of will between you and the other side. Your goal is either to make them give up through sheer negative publicity or drive them to acts so heinous their superiors chose to distance them self from them and scapegoat them whilst giving you what you want. It's literally all about creating enough bad PR for someone that they give up.


Remember, peaceful protest always works. Just ignore all the times in history where it hasn't.

Ah yes, the violent riots by Gandhi and MLK jr.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri May 29, 2020 7:11 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Remember, peaceful protest always works. Just ignore all the times in history where it hasn't.

Ah yes, the violent riots by Gandhi and MLK jr.


Two incidents out of thousands. Did peaceful protests work in South Africa, or Northern Ireland or Venezuela or Tiananmen Square, or Hong Kong?
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby The Marlborough » Fri May 29, 2020 7:11 am

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Postby The Marlborough » Fri May 29, 2020 7:12 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Remember, peaceful protest always works. Just ignore all the times in history where it hasn't.

Ah yes, the violent riots by Gandhi and MLK jr.

The only reason the Indian independence campaign was successful is because the British Indian military, specifically the Royal Indian Navy, mutinied.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri May 29, 2020 7:12 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:Odds of Trump running and winning on a law and order campaign increasing.


Nothing says law and order like demanding people be shot for exercising their first amendment rights.


Odd.. I don't seem to recall the 1A covering being able to freely carry out what basically amounts to domestic terrorism...

As for the comment itself, it certainly is tasteless.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri May 29, 2020 7:13 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Only if your goal is a quick and easy fix. Those don't exists in reality btw.


As I said, no matter what you do, theyll have an issue with it.

Well of course they will. Only a complete fool would expect a quick, easy magical solution to the problem.
It will be a long and painful road for everyone involved. But that is the only legitimate way.

Rioting, looting and burning is NOT legitimate. It is illegal. And ultimately it is immoral. And even if you are right it therefore remains wrong and makes you wrong.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri May 29, 2020 7:14 am

The Marlborough wrote:This isn't even just a US problem, in regards to the police being like this. In a lot of other countries the police are much the same and don't want to be questioned ever and will lie and cover up to protect their own.


This is why alot of people don't like nor trust cops.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri May 29, 2020 7:14 am

Purpelia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
As I said, no matter what you do, theyll have an issue with it.

Well of course they will. Only a complete fool would expect a quick, easy magical solution to the problem.
It will be a long and painful road for everyone involved. But that is the only legitimate way.

Rioting, looting and burning is NOT legitimate. It is illegal. And ultimately it is immoral. And even if you are right it therefore remains wrong and makes you wrong.


Well said.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri May 29, 2020 7:15 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Ah yes, the violent riots by Gandhi and MLK jr.


Two incidents out of thousands. Did peaceful protests work in South Africa, or Northern Ireland or Venezuela or Tiananmen Square, or Hong Kong?

TIL the Indian independence movement and the American civil rights movement where just "incidents".

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Postby The Marlborough » Fri May 29, 2020 7:15 am

The Marlborough wrote:It says something when some people here care more about a looted Target or burned down Wendy's than they do about the blatant murder of a man by four police officers and the failure to arrest them for it.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri May 29, 2020 7:15 am

Purpelia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
As I said, no matter what you do, theyll have an issue with it.

Well of course they will. Only a complete fool would expect a quick, easy magical solution to the problem.
It will be a long and painful road for everyone involved. But that is the only legitimate way.

Rioting, looting and burning is NOT legitimate. It is illegal. And ultimately it is immoral. And even if you are right it therefore remains wrong and makes you wrong.


So peacefully protest and either get ignored or get shot at with tear gas anyways?

Nah, I'm more of a direct action guy. I can't wait for the photos of the interior of precinct 3 to get released online.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri May 29, 2020 7:15 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:This isn't even just a US problem, in regards to the police being like this. In a lot of other countries the police are much the same and don't want to be questioned ever and will lie and cover up to protect their own.


This is why alot of people don't like nor trust cops.

I don’t hate cops but I am sick and tired of seeing them never condemn one of their own and standing behind them no matter what. It makes me seriously question if I still want to become one in my city

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri May 29, 2020 7:17 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Two incidents out of thousands. Did peaceful protests work in South Africa, or Northern Ireland or Venezuela or Tiananmen Square, or Hong Kong?

TIL the Indian independence movement and the American civil rights movement where just "incidents".


Bad wording.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri May 29, 2020 7:18 am

San Lumen wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
This is why alot of people don't like nor trust cops.

I don’t hate cops but I am sick and tired of seeing them never condemn one of their own and standing behind them no matter what. It makes me seriously question if I still want to become one in my city


I strongly advise you not to become a cop Lumen. You're too moral for the job and you will find yourself not only in danger on the street, but surrounded within the walls of the department by criminal thugs who use their status for corrupt purposes.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Purpelia » Fri May 29, 2020 7:18 am

Rojava Free State wrote:So peacefully protest and either get ignored or get shot at with tear gas anyways?

Yes. Every single time. But than you keep protesting. And you keep doing so louder and more until you become loud and known enough to win.
That is the only legitimate way.

Nah, I'm more of a direct action guy. I can't wait for the photos of the interior of precinct 3 to get released online.

If you win against evil by acting worse than it than you did not deserve to win and will lose.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby The Marlborough » Fri May 29, 2020 7:20 am

There are also growing calls for protests in Toronto over the death of Regis Paquet and deaths involving the police in general. https://www.narcity.com/news/ca/on/toronto/justiceforregis-campaigners-have-organized-a-protest-march-in-toronto-on-saturday
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri May 29, 2020 7:21 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Nothing says law and order like demanding people be shot for exercising their first amendment rights.


Odd.. I don't seem to recall the 1A covering being able to freely carry out what basically amounts to domestic terrorism...

As for the comment itself, it certainly is tasteless.

It's tasteless and evil from a garbage president.

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Postby Geneviev » Fri May 29, 2020 7:21 am

San Lumen wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
This is why alot of people don't like nor trust cops.

I don’t hate cops but I am sick and tired of seeing them never condemn one of their own and standing behind them no matter what. It makes me seriously question if I still want to become one in my city

I've given up on being an officer, personally. You can join me in Doing Anything Else.
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