NationStates

New haven america wrote:

Nazeroth wrote:
1. It is failing though, that's the problem, 2. it has one of the highest costs of living in the nation as well as taxes. 3. There is a reason many of us are leaving for places like Texas.

I would have left too if it wasn't for my family.

1. I wasn't aware being the 5th largest economic entity in the world counts as failing
2. So does Texas
3. Who wants to break the news to him that they're mostly moving to the democratic areas of Texas?

Being a large economy means nothing if you also have almost all the nations homeless.

such a great economy yet all these homeless on the streets, out of work or homes.

Bombadil wrote:

The Blaatschapen wrote:California is leftist?

Really, silicon valley, where lots of billionaires made their money, is left wing?

The cities in general are relatively left-wing by US standards, the more rural areas can be surprisingly just as regressive as anywhere else.

"left-wing by US standards" is the exact problem. We're working with two completely different paradigms.

Nazeroth wrote:

Caninope wrote:Home prices are high in large part because of demand to live in California.

There are also reasons why buying a home in California is particularly attractive to those who can afford it versus somewhere like Ohio, namely the appreciation that comes with the house.

there isn't a demand anymore that's the thing, people are LEAVING the state.

And there are also people who are MOVING to the state.

So it balances itself out.

Nazeroth wrote:

Bombadil wrote:
Americans are weird over how territorial they are, and their actual angry dislike not just for other states.. I was in Manhattan Beach wearing a SF t-shirt and a guy literally told me to fuck off back to Norcal.. I was like 'dude, I'm not American, I'm just a tourist..'

So weird.

it's because america is closer to a Union of independent nations

It's really not though.

Especially compared to something like Belgium where there are distinct ethnic groups that all speak different languages there.

Caninope wrote:

Nazeroth wrote:
It is failing though, that's the problem, it has one of the highest costs of living in the nation as well as taxes. There is a reason many of us are leaving for places like Texas.

I would have left too if it wasn't for my family.

just go put your money where your mouth is if you hate it so much and bring your family with you

I don't have the money to leave and take 15 people with me, my dad is elderly and can't move either.

My in-laws are looking at moving and getting a second house somewhere out of state.

i agree w/new haven america.

New haven america wrote:

Nazeroth wrote:
there isn't a demand anymore that's the thing, people are LEAVING the state.

And there are also people who are MOVING to the state.

So it balances itself out.

wtf does that even mean "balances itself out"

nothing is improving

New haven america wrote:

Nazeroth wrote:
there isn't a demand anymore that's the thing, people are LEAVING the state.

And there are also people who are MOVING to the state.

So it balances itself out.

Net migration has been negative among Californians for a little while, but population isn't dropping due to foreign migration + births.

It would also take way to much time for me to figure out why there's net migration, but I suspect a large part of it is just retirees moving somewhere cheaper to live larger off a nest egg (nothing wrong with that either).

Nazeroth wrote:

New haven america wrote:1. I wasn't aware being the 5th largest economic entity in the world counts as failing
2. So does Texas
3. Who wants to break the news to him that they're mostly moving to the democratic areas of Texas?

1. Being a large economy means nothing if you also have almost all the nations homeless.

2. such a great economy yet all these homeless on the streets, out of work or homes.

1. By population percentage only .3% of the population is homeless, which is a pretty standard percentage.
2. Seems like a right-wing paradise to me, tbh.

Nazeroth wrote:

Caninope wrote:just go put your money where your mouth is if you hate it so much and bring your family with you

I don't have the money to leave and take 15 people with me, my dad is elderly and can't move either.

My in-laws are looking at moving and getting a second house somewhere out of state.

Then maybe when they get another home you'll finally realize that the grass isn't actually greener on the other side.

So... are we just gonna snipe at each other's stereotypes or are we planning on actually talking about why certain aspects of life are 'better' in Cali or Texas?

Although I must admit PragerU is pretty much Alex Jones or Francesca Ramsey level trash as a source.

Nazeroth wrote:

New haven america wrote:And there are also people who are MOVING to the state.

So it balances itself out.

wtf does that even mean "balances itself out"

nothing is improving

it may not be improving but its defo not getting worse

New haven america wrote:

Nazeroth wrote:
1. Being a large economy means nothing if you also have almost all the nations homeless.

2. such a great economy yet all these homeless on the streets, out of work or homes.

1. By population percentage only .3% of the population is homeless, which is a pretty standard percentage.
2. Seems like a right-wing paradise to me, tbh.

right-wing paradise would be me not being a felon just for owning an AR-15 and not being butt raped by taxes, so you lost me there.

Albrenia wrote:So... are we just gonna snipe at each other's stereotypes or are we planning on actually talking about why certain aspects of life are 'better' in Cali or Texas?

Although I must admit PragerU is pretty much Alex Jones or Francesca Ramsey level trash as a source.

They may preach my values, but man, their sources suck.

Albrenia wrote:So... are we just gonna snipe at each other's stereotypes or are we planning on actually talking about why certain aspects of life are 'better' in Cali or Texas?

Although I must admit PragerU is pretty much Alex Jones or Francesca Ramsey level trash as a source.

California's geographic diversity(oceans, deserts, mountains etc etc) is the best part about it, the government is dog shit on a stick.

The Reformed American Republic wrote:I'm not a liberal or a leftist, but PragerU is hardly a good source to demonstrate which state is better. It is propaganda.

Sad, you should be.

Nazeroth wrote:

Albrenia wrote:So... are we just gonna snipe at each other's stereotypes or are we planning on actually talking about why certain aspects of life are 'better' in Cali or Texas?

Although I must admit PragerU is pretty much Alex Jones or Francesca Ramsey level trash as a source.

California's geographic diversity(oceans, deserts, mountains etc etc) is the best part about it, the government is dog shit on a stick.

The state is really no worse than a ton of other state governments.

I want to point out that there's a sitting Democratic Party Governor on the East Coast who dressed in blackface in college. Connecticut is slowly going bankrupt. Detroit declared bankruptcy less than a decade ago, etc.

Nazeroth wrote:

New haven america wrote:1. By population percentage only .3% of the population is homeless, which is a pretty standard percentage.
2. Seems like a right-wing paradise to me, tbh.

1. right-wing paradise would be me not being a felon just for owning an AR-15 2. and not being butt raped by taxes, so you lost me there.

1. Actually, a lot of right-wing ideals generally don't like the population being able to freely have firearms.
2. Well, when it comes to economics most of the right tends to love sacrificing the well being of the group in order to keep economic gain rolling and allowing the rich to become richer, so by that standard you should be loving the place.

Caninope wrote:

Nazeroth wrote:
California's geographic diversity(oceans, deserts, mountains etc etc) is the best part about it, the government is dog shit on a stick.

The state is really no worse than a ton of other state governments.

I want to point out that there's a sitting Democratic Party Governor on the East Coast who dressed in blackface in college. Connecticut is slowly going bankrupt. Detroit declared bankruptcy less than a decade ago, etc.

Meh, I think Washington State is relativley speaking nice middle ground personally. You have the benefits of both liberal and conservative leadership.

New haven america wrote:

Nazeroth wrote:
1. right-wing paradise would be me not being a felon just for owning an AR-15 2. and not being butt raped by taxes, so you lost me there.

1. Actually, a lot of right-wing ideals generally don't like the population being able to freely have firearms.
2. Well, when it comes to economics most of the right tends to love sacrificing the well being of the group in order to keep economic gain rolling and allowing the rich to become richer, so by that standard you should be loving the place.

true that

New haven america wrote:

Nazeroth wrote:
there isn't a demand anymore that's the thing, people are LEAVING the state.

And there are also people who are MOVING to the state.

So it balances itself out.

Actually the state's population is rather stagnate right now.

New haven america wrote:

Nazeroth wrote:
1. right-wing paradise would be me not being a felon just for owning an AR-15 2. and not being butt raped by taxes, so you lost me there.

1. Actually, a lot of right-wing ideals generally don't like the population being able to freely have firearms.
2. Well, when it comes to economics most of the right tends to love sacrificing the well being of the group in order to keep economic gain rolling and allowing the rich to become richer, so by that standard you should be loving the place.

Do you live in California?

The Lone Alliance wrote:

New haven america wrote:And there are also people who are MOVING to the state.

So it balances itself out.

Actually the state's population is rather stagnate right now.

mexican anchor babies are the only things keeping it afloat

yeah, i went there.

The Lone Alliance wrote:

New haven america wrote:And there are also people who are MOVING to the state.

So it balances itself out.

Actually the state's population is rather stagnate right now.

Yes, and part of that is because has a similar net immigration/emigration rate.

Nazeroth wrote:

Caninope wrote:The state is really no worse than a ton of other state governments.

I want to point out that there's a sitting Democratic Party Governor on the East Coast who dressed in blackface in college. Connecticut is slowly going bankrupt. Detroit declared bankruptcy less than a decade ago, etc.

Meh, I think Washington State is relativley speaking nice middle ground personally. You have the benefits of both liberal and conservative leadership.

There are more homeless in Seattle than San Francisco, just so you know. Also, Washington is really cold.