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Postby Nazeroth » Mon May 25, 2020 1:34 am

New haven america wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:Actually the state's population is rather stagnate right now.

Yes, and part of that is because has a similar net immigration/emigration rate.


So when are they going to stop shitting in the streets or making me pay for meth heads to get a fix?
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon May 25, 2020 1:35 am

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Meh, I think Washington State is relativley speaking nice middle ground personally. You have the benefits of both liberal and conservative leadership.

There are more homeless in Seattle than San Francisco, just so you know. Also, Washington is really cold.


im aware, but that's just seattle, not the state as a whole(of course Seattle is ran by democrats and literal trostkyists)

and yeah the weather can be a little depressing.
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Postby New haven america » Mon May 25, 2020 1:35 am

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Meh, I think Washington State is relativley speaking nice middle ground personally. You have the benefits of both liberal and conservative leadership.

There are more homeless in Seattle than San Francisco, just so you know. Also, Washington is really cold.

How 60 F considered really cold?
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Postby Albrenia » Mon May 25, 2020 1:35 am

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New haven america wrote:Yes, and part of that is because has a similar net immigration/emigration rate.


So when are they going to stop shitting in the streets or making me pay for meth heads to get a fix?


Dude, relax a bit. Unless you think leftists don't use toilets in which case I bloody hope you're wrong.

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Postby Nazeroth » Mon May 25, 2020 1:36 am

Albrenia wrote:
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So when are they going to stop shitting in the streets or making me pay for meth heads to get a fix?


Dude, relax a bit. Unless you think leftists don't use toilets in which case I bloody hope you're wrong.


Nah just not a fan of walking over human shit after seeing a play in San Fran, i used to like visiting and now it's....just fucking gross.
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Postby Las Islas de Metanoia » Mon May 25, 2020 1:37 am

New haven america wrote:
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1. right-wing paradise would be me not being a felon just for owning an AR-15 2. and not being butt raped by taxes, so you lost me there.

1. Actually, a lot of right-wing ideals generally don't like the population being able to freely have firearms.
2. Well, when it comes to economics most of the right tends to love sacrificing the well being of the group in order to keep economic gain rolling and allowing the rich to become richer, so by that standard you should be loving the place.


Lol Communism is only good in theory but in the vast majority in Communist Leftist nations from North Korea to Cuba and China, the theory they practice falls flat and those areas are full of inequality, exploitation and poverty while everything and individual liberties are supressed for the good of the state. Capitalism is meritocratic, you get what you earn from your own hard work and most succesfful Western Societies are Capitalist and not let the state get your money.

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Postby Wallenburg » Mon May 25, 2020 1:37 am

PragerU shouldn't be trusted to tell you the day's weather, much less to make accurate claims regarding politics and how it shapes economies.
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Postby New haven america » Mon May 25, 2020 1:38 am

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Caninope wrote:There are more homeless in Seattle than San Francisco, just so you know. Also, Washington is really cold.


im aware, but that's just seattle, not the state as a whole(of course Seattle is ran by democrats and literal trostkyists)

and yeah the weather can be a little depressing.

Fun fact, for most of its modern history conservative-republican Spokane, the largest city in the Eastern PNW, was the crack/meth capital of the PNW and had the highest homeless population by percentage in the area
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Postby Bloing » Mon May 25, 2020 1:39 am

Wallenburg wrote:PragerU shouldn't be trusted to tell you the day's weather, much less to make accurate claims regarding politics and how it shapes economies.

Yep, I couldn't trust it to tell me which way an elevator was going if i gave it two tries.
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Postby New haven america » Mon May 25, 2020 1:39 am

Nazeroth wrote:
New haven america wrote:1. Actually, a lot of right-wing ideals generally don't like the population being able to freely have firearms.
2. Well, when it comes to economics most of the right tends to love sacrificing the well being of the group in order to keep economic gain rolling and allowing the rich to become richer, so by that standard you should be loving the place.


Do you live in California?

I see you have no actual rebuttal to the presented points.

Hm... wonder why...?
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon May 25, 2020 1:40 am

New haven america wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
im aware, but that's just seattle, not the state as a whole(of course Seattle is ran by democrats and literal trostkyists)

and yeah the weather can be a little depressing.

Fun fact, for most of its modern history conservative-republican Spokane, the largest city in the Eastern PNW, was the crack/meth capital of the PNW and had the highest homeless population by percentage in the area


That's not saying much considering practically all of eastern washington is bum fuck egypt, ive been through the east and through Yakima, Spokane of course will have that moniker.
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Postby Bloing » Mon May 25, 2020 1:41 am

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New haven america wrote:Fun fact, for most of its modern history conservative-republican Spokane, the largest city in the Eastern PNW, was the crack/meth capital of the PNW and had the highest homeless population by percentage in the area


That's not saying much considering practically all of eastern washington is bum fuck egypt, ive been through the east and through Yakima, Spokane of course will have that moniker.

why are you calling egypt out on this specifically? :eyebrow:
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon May 25, 2020 1:42 am

New haven america wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Do you live in California?

I see you have no actual rebuttal to the presented points.

Hm... wonder why...?


nah, your points are nonsensical really, considering your support for collectivism.
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon May 25, 2020 1:42 am

Bloing wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
That's not saying much considering practically all of eastern washington is bum fuck egypt, ive been through the east and through Yakima, Spokane of course will have that moniker.

why are you calling egypt out on this specifically? :eyebrow:


Because the pharaohs will rise again and take over the world :roll:
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Postby Las Islas de Metanoia » Mon May 25, 2020 1:44 am

New haven america wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Do you live in California?

I see you have no actual rebuttal to the presented points.

Hm... wonder why...?


Why is it always about group-think in leftists?

Can't people see that individual liberty and the merit of the person, his hardwork is at the backbone of nations? Look at the two paradigms of the Soviet Union and the United States, the Soviets were extremely collectivists and statist and sacrificed individual rights and channeled personal merit for state use instead, look what happened to it, now compare it to America where it's capitalist and a person's merit and money belongs to him. Which society is more succesful?
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Postby New haven america » Mon May 25, 2020 1:44 am

Nazeroth wrote:
New haven america wrote:I see you have no actual rebuttal to the presented points.

Hm... wonder why...?


nah, your points are nonsensical really, considering your support for collectivism.

I support neither collectivism nor individualism.

But I'm glad you're willing to ignore the fact that most right wing areas generally don't support civilian owned firearms or definitely support socioeconomic advantages for the rich. It's really explains why your arguments don't tend to hold up.
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Postby Bloing » Mon May 25, 2020 1:44 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Bloing wrote:why are you calling egypt out on this specifically? :eyebrow:


Because the pharaohs will rise again and take over the world :roll:

yeah, right. egypt is a semi-presidential republic with a developed economy and a good military force. it's not like they'll just go "pharaoh time!"
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon May 25, 2020 1:45 am

New haven america wrote:
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nah, your points are nonsensical really, considering your support for collectivism.

I support neither collectivism nor individualism.

But I'm glad you're willing to ignore the fact that most right wing areas generally don't support civilian owned firearms or definitely support socioeconomic advantages for the rich. It's really explains why your arguments don't tend to hold up.


yeah, sure
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon May 25, 2020 1:45 am

Bloing wrote:
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Because the pharaohs will rise again and take over the world :roll:

yeah, right. egypt is a semi-presidential republic with a developed economy and a good military force. it's not like they'll just go "pharaoh time!"


Have you seen the mummy? they would be fucked!
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Postby Bombadil » Mon May 25, 2020 1:46 am

Las Islas de Metanoia wrote:
New haven america wrote:I see you have no actual rebuttal to the presented points.

Hm... wonder why...?


Why is it always about group-think in leftists?

Can't people see that individual liberty and the merit of the person, his hardwork is at the backbone of nations? Look at the two paradigms of the Soviet Union and the United States, the Soviets were extremely collectivists and statist and sacrificed individual right and channeled personal merit for state use instead, look what happened to it, now compare it to America where its' capitalist and a person's merit and money belongs to him. Which society is more succesful?


Gosh, it's like there isn't some relatively balanced mid-field, you either have to be reactionary statist or mercenary capitalist, there can be no nuance.
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon May 25, 2020 1:47 am

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Las Islas de Metanoia wrote:
Why is it always about group-think in leftists?

Can't people see that individual liberty and the merit of the person, his hardwork is at the backbone of nations? Look at the two paradigms of the Soviet Union and the United States, the Soviets were extremely collectivists and statist and sacrificed individual right and channeled personal merit for state use instead, look what happened to it, now compare it to America where its' capitalist and a person's merit and money belongs to him. Which society is more succesful?


Gosh, it's like there isn't some relatively balanced mid-field, you either have to be reactionary statist or mercenary capitalist, there can be no nuance.


Nope, there can be only one :)
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Las Islas de Metanoia wrote:
Why is it always about group-think in leftists?

Can't people see that individual liberty and the merit of the person, his hardwork is at the backbone of nations? Look at the two paradigms of the Soviet Union and the United States, the Soviets were extremely collectivists and statist and sacrificed individual right and channeled personal merit for state use instead, look what happened to it, now compare it to America where its' capitalist and a person's merit and money belongs to him. Which society is more succesful?


Gosh, it's like there isn't some relatively balanced mid-field, you either have to be reactionary statist or mercenary capitalist, there can be no nuance.

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Postby Bloing » Mon May 25, 2020 1:47 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Bloing wrote:yeah, right. egypt is a semi-presidential republic with a developed economy and a good military force. it's not like they'll just go "pharaoh time!"


Have you seen the mummy? they would be fucked!

listen to common facts. it's not going to happen- even if they were reanimated (0% chance) did you forget about "good military?" they also have lots of diplomatic allies and the combined force of them would whap their bandaged asses.
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Postby New haven america » Mon May 25, 2020 1:48 am

Las Islas de Metanoia wrote:
New haven america wrote:I see you have no actual rebuttal to the presented points.

Hm... wonder why...?


1. Why is it always about group-think in leftists?

2. Can't people see that individual liberty and the merit of the person, his hardwork is at the backbone of nations? Look at the two paradigms of the Soviet Union and the United States, the Soviets were extremely collectivists and statist and sacrificed individual right and channeled personal merit for state use instead, look what happened to it, 3. now compare it to America where its' capitalist and a person's merit and money belongs to him. Which society is more succesful?

1. IDK, why don't you ask one?
2. All for One and One for All are two paradigms that should never be taken to either extreme.
3. The US, especially the right-wing leadership, loves sacrificing the individual rights in order to keep the country's corporate oligarchs happy.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon May 25, 2020 1:48 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Bloing wrote:why are you calling egypt out on this specifically? :eyebrow:


Because the pharaohs will rise again and take over the world :roll:


Pyramids are already on the dollar bill.
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