Alternate History Thread(CLOSED)

[Harmonic Empire]

Well you still get "Im hungry for resource, fuck League of Nations."
There are too many what if in this part but i think
As always they will invade Machuria-China and maybe perhaps glaring to South East Asia.

Military funding probably still leaning toward Navy since they are pretty much island country.

Are you talking about the Showa Restoration timeline?

Yes my son. we are talking about Showa Restoration timeline.

[Baja California Autonoma]

This is a great thread, good reads to be had.

[New Bremerton]

What if America lost the War of Independence in 1776 (AKA Great Britain crushed the Washington Rebellion)?

The events of Code Geass play out.

[Neanderthaland]

What if America lost the War of Independence in 1776 (AKA Great Britain crushed the Washington Rebellion)?

The events of Code Geass play out.

Nonsense.

Code Geass played out because Elizabeth I was ousted from power in England, and forced to relocate her monarchy to the English colony of Virginia.

Totally different.

[Solomons Land]

What if Imperial Japan didn't bomb Pearl Harbor?

I personally think America would have stayed out of the war. Roosevelt was well aware there was no way he could win re-election if he had gotten America into the war. I think he was smart, so he would have let the Japanese be.

[Bear Stearns]

What if the Commonwealth of England survived?

[Aeritai]

What if the Vice President position was taken by someone that came in second place in Presidential Elections? Kinda like what happen back then when the United States was just starting?

[Exalted Inquellian State]

Are you talking about the Showa Restoration timeline?

Yes my son. we are talking about Showa Restoration timeline.

Well, it happened in 1936, before the Second Sino-Japanese war. So they would likely still hold Manchukuo. But would likely, in my opinion, fight the Soviet Union instead of China(assuming they even joined the war) due to the Monarchists being despised by commies.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

What if the Vice President position was taken by someone that came in second place in Presidential Elections? Kinda like what happen back then when the United States was just starting?

Well then, Martin van Buren would be our president after Harrison died, literally 30 days after leaving office. The panic of 1837 that started his presidency would still be there, so he would likely be voted out again. After Zachary Taylor would have died, Lewis Cass would become vice president(that, or if Martin van Burren screwed up hard enough, the democratic party would come in third an Van Buren would be elected AGAIN under the free soil party). Lewis Cass believed that the citizens of each state should choose if slavery was going to be legal or not. He would've likely won re-election, and bleeding Kansas might be avoided. The downside? Slavery grows. And that"s where I'll leave off, because I don't know his religion- but if he was a Catholic, the Know-Nothing party might exploit it.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

This is a great thread, good reads to be had.

Thank you.

[La Xinga]

That sounds fun, but what about the first 1?

I thought there are no records of the first one.

The Tanach.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

I thought there are no records of the first one.

The Tanach.

I guess maybe the Jews wouldn't have been exiled to Babylon?

[La Xinga]

The Tanach.

I guess maybe the Jews wouldn't have been exiled to Babylon?

It's also possible Persia could never have gotten Egypt, as Israel is in the way.

[Diahon]

What if the 9/11 hijackers were successfully intercepted and their plans subsequently widely reported?

What if Yitzhak Rabin was able to survive his assassination attempt?

What if the Tiananmen protesters were actually successful in overthrowing the CCP in 1989?

What if Henry Wallace was still FDR's vice president at the time of his passing in 1945, and so that way became president?

What if Donald Trumpa certain unknown inconsequential immature dead human baby was stillborn?

What if the Philippines remained independent after 1899?

What if the Italian army succeeded in defeating the forces of Menelik II in the battle of Adowa?

What if Brigham Young and his Mormons were successful in throwing off the Gentile yoke during the Civil War, due to insufficient monitoring from Washington and/or Confederate chicanery?

[Exalted Inquellian State]

I guess maybe the Jews wouldn't have been exiled to Babylon?

It's also possible Persia could never have gotten Egypt, as Israel is in the way.

Perphaps. In fact, it's possible Egypt could've become like Persia, with each dynasty being replced by another for thousands of years longer.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

Um guys? In 1918 German terms, how many divisions is 700,000 troops?

Edit: Nevermind, I got a number. 47 divisions.

[Risottia]

I'd love discussing two alternates:

1.1947 Italian War.
The 1946 Republic vs Monarchy leaves Italy split in two, with the South and Sardinia voting massively for the Monarchy while the Centre and North vote for the Republic. The votes show a marginal victory for the Republic but King Umberto II refuses to abdicate. The Christian Democrats try to negotiate with the King and with the Allies to get an abdication, but as time passes, tensions grow and the Left Bloc (Socialists, Communist and others) declare the Republic. The King sends a detachment of Royal Carabinieri to arrest the leftist leaders and a bloody clash ensues. Some leftist leaders are killed. The whole North and most of the Centre start a republican insurrection and declare a People's Republic, with the support of Yugoslavia's Tito, while the King runs south (again) seeking the protection of the Allied military and of the monarchy supporters. Basically a Korean scenario in European sauce.

2.Rome stands.
Instead of splitting up and falling piece by piece, the Roman Empire manages to keep working and to control Western and parts of Central Europe, building a huge vallum which runs along the Rhine and the Danube. Somehow the internal political structure manages to hold, slavery dwindles and almost disappears. Basically, the Roman Empire is now a closer counterpart to the Chinese Empire.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

I'd love discussing two alternates:

1.1947 Italian War.
The 1946 Republic vs Monarchy leaves Italy split in two, with the South and Sardinia voting massively for the Monarchy while the Centre and North vote for the Republic. The votes show a marginal victory for the Republic but King Umberto II refuses to abdicate. The Christian Democrats try to negotiate with the King and with the Allies to get an abdication, but as time passes, tensions grow and the Left Bloc (Socialists, Communist and others) declare the Republic. The King sends a detachment of Royal Carabinieri to arrest the leftist leaders and a bloody clash ensues. Some leftist leaders are killed. The whole North and most of the Centre start a republican insurrection and declare a People's Republic, with the support of Yugoslavia's Tito, while the King runs south (again) seeking the protection of the Allied military and of the monarchy supporters. Basically a Korean scenario in European sauce.

2.Rome stands.
Instead of splitting up and falling piece by piece, the Roman Empire manages to keep working and to control Western and parts of Central Europe, building a huge vallum which runs along the Rhine and the Danube. Somehow the internal political structure manages to hold, slavery dwindles and almost disappears. Basically, the Roman Empire is now a closer counterpart to the Chinese Empire.

I like the second one. So basically their dynasty gets replaced every couple centuries? What happens to the Senate? And what about Byzantium?

[The Pearl River]

What if the european powers (mainly france) didn’t suck at regaining their colonies in asia.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

What if the european powers (mainly france) didn’t suck at regaining their colonies in asia.

Well, unlike America loosing the revolutionary war, there is a prerequisite for gaining freedom against European powers. So by the 80's, expect the colonies to gain freedom. However, what changes is that Laos and Vietnam might avoid communism, and remain monarchies, though there is a real possibility Vietnam would become a republic.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

Anyway, back to another AH posed by me, what if the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk was signed in December 1917?

As I stated before, Germany would be able to free up 700,000 additional troops from the East, adding 47 divisions to their already 50. Based on the numbers in the Spring offensive, I calculated that Germany would have a one million troops advantage over the allies of the western front by January of 1918.

[Harmonic Empire]

Anyway, back to another AH posed by me, what if the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk was signed in December 1917?

As I stated before, Germany would be able to free up 700,000 additional troops from the East, adding 47 divisions to their already 50. Based on the numbers in the Spring offensive, I calculated that Germany would have a one million troops advantage over the allies of the western front by January of 1918.

Then you get Wilhelm 2 the idiot and its generals for literally losing the entire war and get mocked in versailes.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

Anyway, back to another AH posed by me, what if the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk was signed in December 1917?

As I stated before, Germany would be able to free up 700,000 additional troops from the East, adding 47 divisions to their already 50. Based on the numbers in the Spring offensive, I calculated that Germany would have a one million troops advantage over the allies of the western front by January of 1918.

Then you get Wilhelm 2 the idiot and its generals for literally losing the entire war and get mocked in versailes.

I think you're referring to our timeline. Cause I'm pretty sure more troops from the east+less American troops in the west+ more time to plan out the offensive since you can't do those in January= either Central Powers winning the war or a white peace in the west.

[La Xinga]

It's also possible Persia could never have gotten Egypt, as Israel is in the way.

Perphaps. In fact, it's possible Egypt could've become like Persia, with each dynasty being replced by another for thousands of years longer.

Do you think Ancient Egypt would've still existed

[Exalted Inquellian State]

Perphaps. In fact, it's possible Egypt could've become like Persia, with each dynasty being replced by another for thousands of years longer.

Do you think Ancient Egypt would've still existed

I mean, maybe. Just that they would've had a different dynasty. The Persian Monarchy, for example, took 2 and a half thousand years to overthrow. Egypt could've lasted even longer due to it's geographic isolation, with Israel being there. Who knew some guys not burning a temple could change so much.

Ok, now that I answered your question, it's time for you to answer mine. Do you think with 700,000 additional troops in January 1918 in the west and with Russia out, could Germany have succeeded in the spring offensive?