Alternate History Thread(CLOSED)

[Exalted Inquellian State]

I decided to, for many reasons, make a thread where people could discuss alternate history. Feel free to discuss with me, each other, and yourself, as long as the discussion is civil. You and me may ask any question, or answer one ourselves. I'll be here, watching.

Alright, by another persons suggestion, I will start: What if the British and their allies completely won the war of Spanish succession?

[VVerkia]

I make alternate timelines of my life as part of my imagination. Not interested in timelines of world.

[Vistulange]

You really might want to elaborate on the OP and offer some idea of your own instead of just going "discuss". Otherwise, moderation will most likely lock the thread.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

You really might want to elaborate on the OP and offer some idea of your own instead of just going "discuss". Otherwise, moderation will most likely lock the thread.

Done.

[Rojava Free State]

I'm thinking someday I'm gonna write an alternate history book and so far I have several fictitious alternate timeliness. The two I talk about most are C-186 and C-188, with C-187 being our universe.

In C-186 Al Gore won the 2000 election and the war in Iraq never occurred. 9/11 happened but the war in Afghanistan only lasted till 2010 and overall culture in America resembles that of the 1990s. Socialized medicine was introduced to the United States and our climate policy was radically better, and United States leadership on the climate led to a transformed sustainable world.

C-188 is based off of how Trump and his supporters portray the world. In C-188, the United States is a war torn hellhole. Barack Obama won the presidency in 2004 and enacted a policy of radical communism, using black panthers to redistribute everyone's house to illegal immigrants, while the inner city became a no go zone and radical Muslims took over Dearborn, enacting sharia law. A civil war broke out between right wingers and the Obama government with the president declaring martial law and suspending elections, and in the chaos of this alternate world, Donald Trump becomes the leader of the resistance, launching guerilla attacks on the army and government sponsored antifa brigades and Islamist guerrillas.

Then there's C-189, which is very similar to our universe, except in that one Trump actually listened to his advisors and United States coronavirus deaths as of May 24th number about 10,000.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

I'm thinking someday I'm gonna write an alternate history book and so far I have several fictitious alternate timeliness. The two I talk about most are C-186 and C-188, with C-187 being our universe.

In C-186 Al Gore won the 2000 election and the war in Iraq never occurred. 9/11 happened but the war in Afghanistan only lasted till 2010 and overall culture in America resembles that of the 1990s. Socialized medicine was introduced to the United States and our climate policy was radically better, and United States leadership on the climate led to a transformed sustainable world.

C-188 is based off of how Trump and his supporters portray the world. In C-188, the United States is a war torn hellhole. Barack Obama won the presidency in 2004 and enacted a policy of radical communism, using black panthers to redistribute everyone's house to illegal immigrants, while the inner city became a no go zone and radical Muslims took over Dearborn, enacting sharia law. A civil war broke out between right wingers and the Obama government with the president declaring martial law and suspending elections, and in the chaos of this alternate world, Donald Trump becomes the leader of the resistance, launching guerilla attacks on the army and government sponsored antifa brigades and Islamist guerrillas.

Then there's C-189, which is very similar to our universe, except in that one Trump actually listened to his advisors and United States coronavirus deaths as of May 24th number about 10,000.

These are some... interesting scenario's, but is C-186 really plausible?

[Aeritai]

Alternate History is a interesting topic considering some nations on here are alt history. So I have a question: What if the Americans lost the Revolutionary War? Would the British still be a world power today or would the 13 colonies find another way to become independent?

[Feyrisshire]

What if all anime, manga and hentai were invented instead in the Soviet Union or in East Germany (DDR) instead of being invented in Japan as what happened in OTL?

[Rojava Free State]

I'm thinking someday I'm gonna write an alternate history book and so far I have several fictitious alternate timeliness. The two I talk about most are C-186 and C-188, with C-187 being our universe.

In C-186 Al Gore won the 2000 election and the war in Iraq never occurred. 9/11 happened but the war in Afghanistan only lasted till 2010 and overall culture in America resembles that of the 1990s. Socialized medicine was introduced to the United States and our climate policy was radically better, and United States leadership on the climate led to a transformed sustainable world.

C-188 is based off of how Trump and his supporters portray the world. In C-188, the United States is a war torn hellhole. Barack Obama won the presidency in 2004 and enacted a policy of radical communism, using black panthers to redistribute everyone's house to illegal immigrants, while the inner city became a no go zone and radical Muslims took over Dearborn, enacting sharia law. A civil war broke out between right wingers and the Obama government with the president declaring martial law and suspending elections, and in the chaos of this alternate world, Donald Trump becomes the leader of the resistance, launching guerilla attacks on the army and government sponsored antifa brigades and Islamist guerrillas.

Then there's C-189, which is very similar to our universe, except in that one Trump actually listened to his advisors and United States coronavirus deaths as of May 24th number about 10,000.

These are some... interesting scenario's, but is C-186 really plausible?

Youre asking if C-186 is plausible? That's probably the second most plausible one on the list next to 189. If anything the least plausible is C-188, which I mainly use as a joke. I think had things gone a bit differently, Al gore could have won the presidency.

[Rojava Free State]

Alternate History is a interesting topic considering some nations on here are alt history. So I have a question: What if the Americans lost the Revolutionary War? Would the British still be a world power today or would the 13 colonies find another way to become independent?

Britain would probably have let them go like they let all the others go (except northern ireland and Bermuda). They allowed Canada to become a dominion in the 1800s and these days Canada is independent. Likely America would have been granted independence in the 1800s sometime and would be a commonwealth country today. I doubt we would still be under British rule.

[Dominioan]

What if America collapsed, instead of the Soviet Union?

[Exalted Inquellian State]

Speaking to Rojava Free State, America was the first country to win independence from a European power. So the independence waves would be postponed. So it's likely all the Brotosh colonies today would be some kind of protectorates with various governments.

[Stellar Colonies]

I like scenarios which result in the world becoming multipolar; such as one with American, Imperial German, Imperial British, Soviet, and Nationalist Chinese poles for example.

Unipolar and bipolar worlds are boring, although safer to actually live in.

Can make for some interesting worldbuilding in my opinion.

[Aeritai]

Alternate History is a interesting topic considering some nations on here are alt history. So I have a question: What if the Americans lost the Revolutionary War? Would the British still be a world power today or would the 13 colonies find another way to become independent?

Britain would probably have let them go like they let all the others go (except northern ireland and Bermuda). They allowed Canada to become a dominion in the 1800s and these days Canada is independent. Likely America would have been granted independence in the 1800s sometime and would be a commonwealth country today. I doubt we would still be under British rule.

So if the United States became a Commonwealth would it still reach superpower status in the 21st Century?

[The Blaatschapen]

What if this thread was never made?

[Exalted Inquellian State]

What if America collapsed, instead of the Soviet Union?

Assuming America collapsed into contituaent states and territories, to USSR would l\have likely won the cold war. However, the EU would survive, but mostly be weak. It would be alive today, but a few countries would fall to socialist revolution. Eventually, some states would unite. New England would likely unite, and have Maryland Join. They and a new CSA(or possibly New African Republic) would fight over D.C. every few years. Alaska would join Canada. The Pacific States would become a multi party democracy, and the Great Lakes would become a socialist state. The prairie states would unite into a tribal, conservative confederal republic. the other states would remain independent.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

I like scenarios which result in the world becoming multipolar; such as one with American, Imperial German, Imperial British, Soviet, and Nationalist Chinese poles for example.

Unipolar and bipolar worlds are boring, although safer to actually live in.

Can make for some interesting worldbuilding in my opinion.

kay, I'm sorry for saying this, moderators.

I'm making a roleplay inspired by another guys scenario with the same idea. Its over for now, though.

[Dominioan]

What if America collapsed, instead of the Soviet Union?

Assuming America collapsed into contituaent states and territories, to USSR would l\have likely won the cold war. However, the EU would survive, but mostly be weak. It would be alive today, but a few countries would fall to socialist revolution. Eventually, some states would unite. New England would likely unite, and have Maryland Join. They and a new CSA(or possibly New African Republic) would fight over D.C. every few years. Alaska would join Canada. The Pacific States would become a multi party democracy, and the Great Lakes would become a socialist state. The prairie states would unite into a tribal, conservative confederal republic. the other states would remain independent.

Mmm, sounds like some sexy borders =)

I would imagine California would have a fun time.

[Baja California Autonoma]

Read 'The Years of Rice and Salt'. Is a masterful alternate history where Europes population is decimated completely by the Black Death and how China and the Muslim world in turn shape the world and lead to one with people, still like us, industrialized and modern but with really interesting tangents or divergences. Highly recommend it to anyone who is interested in alternate history.

Man in the High Castle is amazing in this regard as well if you're a more visual person and would prefer to watch rather than read.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

What if all anime, manga and hentai were invented instead in the Soviet Union or in East Germany (DDR) instead of being invented in Japan as what happened in OTL?

It would be unpopular in the US due to, Ya know, the cold war. However, the Eastern block would see a huge popularity in this form of animation. Most of the characters would be Russian. After the cold war, however, the Western European countries would soon start to approve of this anime, and there may be a more pro-Russian opinion in America.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

So, what if Britain and its allies won the war of Spanish succession(and by won, I mean achieve all their major goals and if they disagreed, find good compromises their side liked).

[-Ocelot-]

The butterfly effect says we can't actually predict what might have happened in X event had transpired differently. So while we can try, no hypothesis can be 100% accurate.

What if America collapsed, instead of the Soviet Union?

The Soviet Union could have succeeded in taking over the world and everyone would be living in a prison/labor camp system today.

What if all anime, manga and hentai were invented instead in the Soviet Union or in East Germany (DDR) instead of being invented in Japan as what happened in OTL?

Would never happen. These countries were puritan and would disallow the existence of anime/manga, especially in their current form.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

The butterfly effect says we can't actually predict what might have happened in X event had transpired differently. So while we can try, no hypothesis can be 100% accurate.

What if America collapsed, instead of the Soviet Union?

The Soviet Union could have succeeded in taking over the world and everyone would be living in a prison/labor camp system today.

What if all anime, manga and hentai were invented instead in the Soviet Union or in East Germany (DDR) instead of being invented in Japan as what happened in OTL?

Would never happen. These countries were puritan and would disallow the existence of anime/manga, especially in their current form.

Not the world. South America, Most of Western Europe, India, parts of Africa, and most of America itself would be free

[Rojava Free State]

What if Maurice Barnett never created Blastphemous HDTV?

[Kargintina the Third]

I’m writing a timeline on althistory.com right now about Reagan being killed by Hinkley Jr