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The Ultimate Goal of Mankind

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What is the ultimate goal of humanity?

Eternal procreation of the species
24
16%
To become immortal beings
15
10%
To colonize the entire universe
27
18%
To live in a state of absolute pleasure
18
12%
To save the universe from ending
15
10%
Apotheosis (becoming gods)
18
12%
Our extinction
8
5%
Total nonexistence (no matter, no energy at all)
6
4%
Religious beliefs (go to heaven, be one with God)
19
13%
 
Total votes : 150

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Postby Auze » Sun May 24, 2020 4:07 am

All of the above.
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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 24, 2020 4:10 am

Ayro Va wrote:To reach communism.


Fuck no!
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun May 24, 2020 4:14 am

Green October Z wrote:
Ayro Va wrote:To reach communism.


Fuck no!


Fuck yes!

(but not really)
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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 24, 2020 4:15 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Green October Z wrote:
Fuck no!


Fuck yes!


Those motherfuckers killed most of my family, fuck no!
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Sun May 24, 2020 4:20 am

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:To find Christ, serve Christ, and ultimately reign with Him in Heaven.

On a secular basis? To end hunger, the absence of potable water, and the absence of shelter. To spread to the farthest corners of the galaxy and enslave non-human aliens for our service, fields, and menial chores. We should approach colonizing space as the galaxy's future master. Aliens exist to serve us for the same reason livestock do.


I guess there’s no reason to oppose the insectoid Ur-Hiżtothi when they come from planet Yig to enslave humanity and devour our firstborn children. I mean, they’re obviously the superior species because they conquered Earth, right?
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun May 24, 2020 4:28 am

Green October Z wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
Fuck yes!


Those motherfuckers killed most of my family, fuck no!


That's why I corrected it with a "but not actually."
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Just sort of happened one day.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 24, 2020 4:29 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Green October Z wrote:
Those motherfuckers killed most of my family, fuck no!


That's why I corrected it with a "but not actually."


Okay. Good.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun May 24, 2020 4:40 am

The Islands of Versilia wrote:
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:To find Christ, serve Christ, and ultimately reign with Him in Heaven.

On a secular basis? To end hunger, the absence of potable water, and the absence of shelter. To spread to the farthest corners of the galaxy and enslave non-human aliens for our service, fields, and menial chores. We should approach colonizing space as the galaxy's future master. Aliens exist to serve us for the same reason livestock do.


I guess there’s no reason to oppose the insectoid Ur-Hiżtothi when they come from planet Yig to enslave humanity and devour our firstborn children. I mean, they’re obviously the superior species because they conquered Earth, right?


Mind you, he does think we should serve some theocratic dictator too.

But he's the offspring of some marty stu cosmic entity, so it's all fine and dandy.
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Well...we don't actually know. Just sort of happened one day.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Postby Page » Sun May 24, 2020 5:20 am

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:To find Christ, serve Christ, and ultimately reign with Him in Heaven.

On a secular basis? To end hunger, the absence of potable water, and the absence of shelter. To spread to the farthest corners of the galaxy and enslave non-human aliens for our service, fields, and menial chores. We should approach colonizing space as the galaxy's future master. Aliens exist to serve us for the same reason livestock do.


I think the question "what would Jesus do?" isn't likely to be answered with "enslave other sentient beings."
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sun May 24, 2020 5:28 am

To put horses into space. Imagine space horses.
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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 24, 2020 5:29 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:To put horses into space. Imagine space horses.


I don't have to. I see them every time I close my eyes :D
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Postby VVerkia » Sun May 24, 2020 9:22 am

Green October Z wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
Fuck yes!


Those motherfuckers killed most of my family, fuck no!

And "slaved" some country for years, including one, when i'm.

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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Sun May 24, 2020 8:49 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:To put horses into space. Imagine space horses.

2001:A pony Odyssey?
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sun May 24, 2020 9:35 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:To put horses into space. Imagine space horses.

Well, they'd mostly just be cold. Frozen really. And dead. Very dead.
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Postby Geneviev » Sun May 24, 2020 9:38 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:To put horses into space. Imagine space horses.

Well, they'd mostly just be cold. Frozen really. And dead. Very dead.

That kind of ruins the fun.
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Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Thu May 28, 2020 6:55 pm

Page wrote:
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:To find Christ, serve Christ, and ultimately reign with Him in Heaven.

On a secular basis? To end hunger, the absence of potable water, and the absence of shelter. To spread to the farthest corners of the galaxy and enslave non-human aliens for our service, fields, and menial chores. We should approach colonizing space as the galaxy's future master. Aliens exist to serve us for the same reason livestock do.


I think the question "what would Jesus do?" isn't likely to be answered with "enslave other sentient beings."


In this brave new world, with us as the galaxy's master, no human would ever be a slave or anything like it. All other lifeforms are plants or animals, fungi and so on, and while we are called to be responsible and sustainable in our exploitation of nature, the fact is ordained by God Himself that we have Dominion over all life.

Our only responsibility to aliens is that we use them sustainably and not cause undue pain and suffering when using them for our labor, livestock, and sustinence. We should treat our alien servants as a good, sustainable farmer treats cows. The matter is that they cannot be slaves in the human sense because they are not men.

All alien lieforms exist to serve all humans. There are no exceptions and certainly no equals. I hope that you are picking up what I am putting down.

The only way I could ever see awarding human rights to an alien is if the alien society demonstrated a spectacular, truly worthy act that recalls the valor, gallantry, and glory of men: particularly, self-sacrificial acts to protect the innocent, defend a stranger, and for other such things that human soldiers (and humans in general) get medals. I would also award them to a civilization that stepped in to save us, for the same reasons.

Aliens exist to serve men. The domination of all non-human life and sustainable exploitation of the galaxy is the ultimate secular goal of mankind, which includes acquiring alien livestock and assets. If an alien could hypothetically prove themselves worthy, I'm sure that freeman's residency is acceptable.
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Postby VVerkia » Thu May 28, 2020 7:27 pm

I'm sick of "domination", "make slavery" ideologies.

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