Joohan wrote:Neutraligon wrote: No true Scotsman. And ignoring the actual point.
Well, technically, this is all a no true scotsman argument to you - as you don't believe that an objective standard of moral measurement beyond your own.
oh, and how exactly do you think that you kno anything about my own morals?
I've ignored your insinuation that Christians do wrong by spreading the gospel because it's ridiculous.
I view it as wrong as spreading any other religion
By your standards of desiring our apathy,
I do not desire your apathy.
perhaps it makes sense that we should merely hide ourselves in the corner for all times - but according to Christians, we are commanded to evangelize.
I did not ask you to hide in a corner either. There is this nice middle groun between evangelizing where you are not wanted and hiding in a corner. Maybe you should actually ask my views instead of strawmanning me.
Yes it was...because if it where not he would have been unable to reach to children regardless of religion.
Just like the carsalesman or the cult leader does not expect everyone to delight in what you have to say, but you must go on anyway.
The difference being, there is no material gain for us. The reward, is that we come closer to God.[/quote] A gain is a gain regardless of if it is simply self-satisfaction or material.
I could do the same thing for practically every religion.
you have a few hundred years of martyrdom and centuries upon centuries of intolerance, violence, and hatred. Tell that to ISIS, who believes what they are doing is the will of their god.
You will find that Hernan Cortez is the exception, and not the rule among missionaries. I will say again, as I have before, that men have done terrible things in the name of the Lord - but that their actions are not representative of what is to be Christian. For those men and women who are filled with holy spirit, spreading the gospels have works of love. It's easy to point at the conquistadors as an example of how evil evangelism is - while ignoring the fact that nearly all missionary work throughout history has consisted of charity and education. Pointing to the actions taken by a few men throughout out a nearly 2000 year history as being representative for the whole of the faith, is as ridiculous as trying to assign ISIS as the standard bearer of Islam.
Like I said, no true scotsman.
Point to your tyrant's, I will point to you multitudes of saints who have suffered for their faith. Point to your murders, I will point to you the orders and missions that drown their misery with charity and love. The history of the Church is one of the Lords's compassion and the struggles of man, and if you've doubts on what it is to spread the truth of the gospels, then perhaps you should read them for yourself?
Your saints do not do anything to the fact that Christianity has a history of intolerance, hate, murder, and other things. I have read the gospels, I found nothing compelling about it. Maybe you should stop assuming what I have and have not done, so far you have been wrong every time