India vs. China - Who Would Win in a War?

[Albrenia]

World Wars I and II.

Do you remember why the US participated in World War II?Japanese attack

And WW1?Germany attacked the British and American routes and planned to attack the US with Mexico.

So what time did the US not join the fight when it was attacked?

As for britain, they are the most unreliable teammates in the world.

You do have a point on the US avoiding both World Wars until they literally had no choice, but nowadays there's a lot of reason for western powers to want China humbled, and a lot to be gained by making India beholden to western powers.

[Heloin]

They had their asses to handed to them in the recent conflict with Pakistan.

Excuse my ignorance, but have India and Pakistan had a war since 1971?

Yes and India won https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War

[Nap the Magnificent]

It's worth noting that India has far more combat experience than the PRC does at this point, especially in mountainous terrain, and has won the vast majority of the conflicts it has been involved in since independence.

They had their asses to handed to them in the recent conflict with Pakistan.

A border skirmish is nothing like an actual war. India has won all of its wars against Pakistan.

[Aureumterra]

Both countries have no first strike doctrines, so that’s not happening

But assuming they did go to war, then nuclear annihilation

But asusming for whatever reason they choose to wage a conventional war, China has the immediate advantage because Tibet’s harsh climate blocks Indian advances from entering the Chinese heartland from that front. The only easy access to China would be through the small border in the East, which can be easily blocked off. However, India can attempt to cross the Himalayas and take Tibet through local support, I’m sure the Tibetan locals would be more than happy to provide food and shelter to what they would perceive as an army of liberation rather than an army of invasion. If India somehow manages to secure Tibet, it has unfiltered access to the Chinese heartland. China’s biggest weakness is most of its population is concentrated at the coast, while India’s population is spread out throughout India.

Also, not to mention the current US administration would definitely provide military aid to India, and Russia would join on India’s side being close allies

[Alba and Cymru]

Korean War, Vietnam War, Operation Desert Shield/Storm, etc.

Oh, I forgot.They will also bully small countries

Just like China is preparing to do in southern Africa.

[Albrenia]

Both countries have no first strike doctrines, so that’s not happening

But assuming they did go to war, then nuclear annihilation

But asusming for whatever reason they choose to wage a conventional war, China has the immediate advantage because Tibet’s harsh climate blocks Indian advances from entering the Chinese heartland from that front. The only easy access to China would be through the small border in the East, which can be easily blocked off. However, India can attempt to cross the Himalayas and take Tibet through local support, I’m sure the Tibetan locals would be more than happy to provide food and shelter to what they would perceive as an army of liberation rather than an army of invasion. If India somehow manages to secure Tibet, it has unfiltered access to the Chinese heartland. China’s biggest weakness is most of its population is concentrated at the coast, while India’s population is spread out throughout India.

Also, not to mention the current US administration would definitely provide military aid to India, and Russia would join on India’s side being close allies

Would Russia take advantage to grab more land, do you think? Or are they happy with what they have?

[Shanghai industrial complex]

Do you remember why the US participated in World War II?Japanese attack

And WW1?Germany attacked the British and American routes and planned to attack the US with Mexico.

So what time did the US not join the fight when it was attacked?

As for britain, they are the most unreliable teammates in the world.

Britain joined WWI after Belgium was invaded and WWII after Poland was invaded. Further, there is much more cultural connection to India than to China not to mention the large Indian population within Britain.

Yep,If the German Empire dares to invade Poland, the British and French allied forces will attack the Ruhr Valley.
phoney war，or Sitzkrieg，Remember？

[Baja California Autonoma]

Both countries have no first strike doctrines, so that’s not happening

But assuming they did go to war, then nuclear annihilation

But asusming for whatever reason they choose to wage a conventional war, China has the immediate advantage because Tibet’s harsh climate blocks Indian advances from entering the Chinese heartland from that front. The only easy access to China would be through the small border in the East, which can be easily blocked off. However, India can attempt to cross the Himalayas and take Tibet through local support, I’m sure the Tibetan locals would be more than happy to provide food and shelter to what they would perceive as an army of liberation rather than an army of invasion. If India somehow manages to secure Tibet, it has unfiltered access to the Chinese heartland. China’s biggest weakness is most of its population is concentrated at the coast, while India’s population is spread out throughout India.

Also, not to mention the current US administration would definitely provide military aid to India, and Russia would join on India’s side being close allies

Russia would join China even though they see them as a threat they see US and whoever its ally with as something to necessarily counter-act. That would be a crazy ww3 though. Who'd win that?

Russia attacking China would gain it territory and remove troublesome threat on their border. Itd be better move for em in hypothetical conflict.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Korean War, Vietnam War, Operation Desert Shield/Storm, etc.

Oh, I forgot.They will also bully small countries

No, that's what China does.

[Alba and Cymru]

Excuse my ignorance, but have India and Pakistan had a war since 1971?

Yes and India won https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War

Ah, I forgot about Operation Vijay. Thanks for enlightening me!

[Shanghai industrial complex]

Do you remember why the US participated in World War II?Japanese attack

And WW1?Germany attacked the British and American routes and planned to attack the US with Mexico.

So what time did the US not join the fight when it was attacked?

As for britain, they are the most unreliable teammates in the world.

You do have a point on the US avoiding both World Wars until they literally had no choice, but nowadays there's a lot of reason for western powers to want China humbled, and a lot to be gained by making India beholden to western powers.

Not only now, but it's always the same in the West.The West has been eager to borrow India to contain China.So what's the good for India

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Both countries have no first strike doctrines, so that’s not happening

But assuming they did go to war, then nuclear annihilation

But asusming for whatever reason they choose to wage a conventional war, China has the immediate advantage because Tibet’s harsh climate blocks Indian advances from entering the Chinese heartland from that front. The only easy access to China would be through the small border in the East, which can be easily blocked off. However, India can attempt to cross the Himalayas and take Tibet through local support, I’m sure the Tibetan locals would be more than happy to provide food and shelter to what they would perceive as an army of liberation rather than an army of invasion. If India somehow manages to secure Tibet, it has unfiltered access to the Chinese heartland. China’s biggest weakness is most of its population is concentrated at the coast, while India’s population is spread out throughout India.

Also, not to mention the current US administration would definitely provide military aid to India, and Russia would join on India’s side being close allies

Why are you assuming India is the aggressor given everything we know about the PRC being an imperialist power?

[Heloin]

Both countries have no first strike doctrines, so that’s not happening

But assuming they did go to war, then nuclear annihilation

But asusming for whatever reason they choose to wage a conventional war, China has the immediate advantage because Tibet’s harsh climate blocks Indian advances from entering the Chinese heartland from that front. The only easy access to China would be through the small border in the East, which can be easily blocked off. However, India can attempt to cross the Himalayas and take Tibet through local support, I’m sure the Tibetan locals would be more than happy to provide food and shelter to what they would perceive as an army of liberation rather than an army of invasion. If India somehow manages to secure Tibet, it has unfiltered access to the Chinese heartland. China’s biggest weakness is most of its population is concentrated at the coast, while India’s population is spread out throughout India.

Also, not to mention the current US administration would definitely provide military aid to India, and Russia would join on India’s side being close allies

Russia would join China even though they see them as a threat they see US and whoever its ally with as something to necessarily counter-act. That would be a crazy ww3 though. Who'd win that?

Russia attacking China would gain it territory and remove troublesome threat on their border. Itd be better move for em in hypothetical conflict.

Russia wouldn't get involved more likely. Why fight when you're three biggest rivals slug it out?

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

The war wouldn’t happen unless India attacked though

In which case the trade interests and public sympathy would be with China

India has much more amiable relations with the nations sandwiched in between and has not historically been the aggressor. I don't think the nations of the world would turn against themselves for placing an embargo on China. If anything, a naval dispute with a large country will allow smaller nations to express their grievances with the Chinese imperialist machine. The American public doesn't care about Vietnam, but a conflict with a friendly state will be talked about much more.

India practically has full control over Bhutanese foreign affairs, but Nepal is more aligned with China. Additionally, China has good relations with Pakistan.

[Shanghai industrial complex]

Oh, I forgot.They will also bully small countries

Just like China is preparing to do in southern Africa.

And what Europe has been doing in Africa for hundreds of years.
No,in all of the world.

[Nap the Magnificent]

Britain joined WWI after Belgium was invaded and WWII after Poland was invaded. Further, there is much more cultural connection to India than to China not to mention the large Indian population within Britain.

Yep,If the German Empire dares to invade Poland, the British and French allied forces will attack the Ruhr Valley.
phoney war，or Sitzkrieg，Remember？

There are many reasons as to why there was no major offensive, primarily French fears of having to be on the offensive and preferring to draw the Germans into attacking them. The war at sea however was quite real and both Britain and France quickly stockpiled weapons and equipment for when they expected war to commence in full.

[Heloin]

Just like China is preparing to do in southern Africa.

And what Europe has been doing in Africa for hundreds of years.
No,in all of the world.

Imperialism good because other people did imperialism is a really funny take.

[Green October Z]

They had their asses to handed to them in the recent conflict with Pakistan.

A border skirmish is nothing like an actual war. India has won all of its wars against Pakistan.

Be that is it may, the fact is that the Indian military proved to be highly incompetent in 2019.

[Alba and Cymru]

Just like China is preparing to do in southern Africa.

And what Europe has been doing in Africa for hundreds of years.
No,in all of the world.

Well now Europe is not, and someone is now.

[Nap the Magnificent]

Both countries have no first strike doctrines, so that’s not happening

But assuming they did go to war, then nuclear annihilation

But asusming for whatever reason they choose to wage a conventional war, China has the immediate advantage because Tibet’s harsh climate blocks Indian advances from entering the Chinese heartland from that front. The only easy access to China would be through the small border in the East, which can be easily blocked off. However, India can attempt to cross the Himalayas and take Tibet through local support, I’m sure the Tibetan locals would be more than happy to provide food and shelter to what they would perceive as an army of liberation rather than an army of invasion. If India somehow manages to secure Tibet, it has unfiltered access to the Chinese heartland. China’s biggest weakness is most of its population is concentrated at the coast, while India’s population is spread out throughout India.

Also, not to mention the current US administration would definitely provide military aid to India, and Russia would join on India’s side being close allies

Russia would join China even though they see them as a threat they see US and whoever its ally with as something to necessarily counter-act. That would be a crazy ww3 though. Who'd win that?

Russia attacking China would gain it territory and remove troublesome threat on their border. Itd be better move for em in hypothetical conflict.

Why would Russia bother joining China in a war against India? Indo-Russian relations are quite strong, stronger than Chinese-Russian relations I'd argue.

[Nap the Magnificent]

A border skirmish is nothing like an actual war. India has won all of its wars against Pakistan.

Be that is it may, the fact is that the Indian military proved to be highly incompetent in 2019.

Wow, one incident versus numerous others when they showed to be better than the Pakistani military including in numerous other skirmishes from 2016-2018.

[Baja California Autonoma]

Russia would join China even though they see them as a threat they see US and whoever its ally with as something to necessarily counter-act. That would be a crazy ww3 though. Who'd win that?

Russia attacking China would gain it territory and remove troublesome threat on their border. Itd be better move for em in hypothetical conflict.

Why would Russia bother joining China in a war against India? Indo-Russian relations are quite strong, stronger than Chinese-Russian relations I'd argue.

I only added that as a possibility given how chummy the Russians, chinese and n. koreans are if to oppose US and Western influence or plans. Not because it's in their best interests, just realpolitik.

[Green October Z]

Be that is it may, the fact is that the Indian military proved to be highly incompetent in 2019.

Wow, one incident versus numerous others when they showed to be better than the Pakistani military including in numerous other skirmishes from 2016-2018.

Super!

[Shanghai industrial complex]

And what Europe has been doing in Africa for hundreds of years.
No,in all of the world.

Well now Europe is not, and someone is now.

No, still.If you search Africa's debt structure, or read the history of Africa in recent decades.
Africa is owned by multinationals.

[Baja California Autonoma]

Well now Europe is not, and someone is now.

No, still.If you search Africa's debt structure, or read the history of Africa in recent decades.
Africa is owned by multinationals.

Rather than Chinese state corporations, it's so unfair.