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What would the result be?

Chinese Victory, Indian Defeat
41
39%
Indian Victory, Chinese Defeat
13
12%
Chinese Tactical Victory, Strategic Defeat
25
24%
Indian Tactical Victory, Strategic Defeat
6
6%
Don't Know/Inconclusive
20
19%
 
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun May 17, 2020 7:31 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:The Chinese forces would prevail. Decisively so.

They have more soldiers, better technology, a bigger economy, and fiercely loyal soldiers and citizens.

However, India would have to attack first (making India the aggressor) because China is a peaceful country that only wants trade and create win wins. It’s not interested in imposing its ideology on non-Chinese territory and it’s not a colonial/imperial power.


It disgusts me that you've become such a sycophant for the most vile and repugnant regime on the face of the place, to such a degree that you're willing to spout absolute propaganda like this brazenly and confidently. I can only hope you're somehow being coerced by the CCP to spew this bullshit because the thought of anyone willingly kowtowing to ChiCom terrorism is morally sickening.

God help you and everyone else who licks ChiCom jackboots.
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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 17, 2020 7:31 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
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.........How?

In any case, it would be offset by the incredible Bollywood propaganda song-and-dance numbers.


India definitely seems to have an advantage in soft power and would have a much easier time in getting global sympathy.
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Postby Heloin » Sun May 17, 2020 7:32 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Eckie-Cola wrote:
India’s navy is strong enough to give China a lot of problems. You have to realize that in this theoretical conflict, India would likely have the support of the USA and it’s allies.

China has more enemies than allies, most nations would jump at the chance to screw China over if it was stupid enough to involve itself in a war with India.


The war wouldn’t happen unless India attacked though

Most of China's wars since the PRC came into existence have been aggressive wars started by the PRC.

In which case the trade interests and public sympathy would be with China

No it wouldn't.

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Postby Baja California Autonoma » Sun May 17, 2020 7:33 pm

What pro-Chinese sympathies? Most of East Asia hates Chinese threatening them and plenty of countries in West would take India's side. China is distrusted and the only people that are cool with them are 5hose where ita development projects with colonial overtones(Chinese build and maintain micro-economies, China maintains rights over certain infrastructure projects or gains them if they cant pay back). People are seriously not thinking about how screwed China would be because more nations than not would go against them and their economy would die. Chinas major arteries are vulnerable in Indian Ocean and malacca straights.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun May 17, 2020 7:34 pm

Any hypothetical war between China and India ends in a military stalemate with no major land gains or losses combined with strategic defeat for both nations through enormous casualties.
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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Sun May 17, 2020 7:34 pm

Alba and Cymru wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The war wouldn’t happen unless India attacked though

In which case the trade interests and public sympathy would be with China


The UK would always side with India over China in any set of circumstances. The current administration of the United States would also back India even if they are the aggressor. All China really relies on is Russia, and even then, Russia may not side with China in an unfavorable situation.


Give an example of Britain and the United States taking action, not verbally.
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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 17, 2020 7:34 pm

Baja California Autonoma wrote:What pro-Chinese sympathies? Most of East Asia hates Chinese threatening them and plenty of countries in West would take India's side. China is distrusted and the only people that are cool with them are 5hose where ita development projects with colonial overtones(Chinese build and maintain micro-economies, China maintains rights over certain infrastructure projects or gains them if they cant pay back. People are seriously not thinking about how screwed China would be.


Amazing. Every word of what you just said was... right!
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Postby Albrenia » Sun May 17, 2020 7:35 pm

Baja California Autonoma wrote:What pro-Chinese sympathies? Most of East Asia hates Chinese threatening them and plenty of countries in West would take India's side. China is distrusted and the only people that are cool with them are 5hose where ita development projects with colonial overtones(Chinese build and maintain micro-economies, China maintains rights over certain infrastructure projects or gains them if they cant pay back. People are seriously not thinking about how screwed China would be.


Hence my stipulation of 'if the world did nothing'. China would be badly boned if it went to war in a way which called the might of one of the other world powers into the fight.

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Postby Alba and Cymru » Sun May 17, 2020 7:36 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Alba and Cymru wrote:Crossing the Himalayas would be suicide by either army. This would most likely be a naval war or a whole lot of air raids, if not an invasion of Indochina.

You can get to the Himalayas by train from China.There are also highways.Permafrost and snow mountain are not problems.Direct to China India border


Train routes between countries are the first to go in conventional warfare. It wouldn't be days before China and India began attacking vital supply lines going through the Himalayas. That being said, it is still incredibly difficult to move troops and vehicles through mountainous terrain, no matter how hot or cold the mountains are. Given that both countries will use the terrain for defensive advantages, a land invasion by either power is impossible, at least not in the short-run.
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Postby Albrenia » Sun May 17, 2020 7:37 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Alba and Cymru wrote:
The UK would always side with India over China in any set of circumstances. The current administration of the United States would also back India even if they are the aggressor. All China really relies on is Russia, and even then, Russia may not side with China in an unfavorable situation.


Give an example of Britain and the United States taking action, not verbally.


World Wars I and II.

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Postby Free Northwest Sovereign » Sun May 17, 2020 7:37 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Eckie-Cola wrote:India’s navy is strong enough to give China a lot of problems. You have to realize that in this theoretical conflict, India would likely have the support of the USA and it’s allies.

China has more enemies than allies, most nations would jump at the chance to screw China over if it was stupid enough to involve itself in a war with India.


The war wouldn’t happen unless India attacked though

In which case the trade interests and public sympathy would be with China

India has much more amiable relations with the nations sandwiched in between and has not historically been the aggressor. I don't think the nations of the world would turn against themselves for placing an embargo on China. If anything, a naval dispute with a large country will allow smaller nations to express their grievances with the Chinese imperialist machine. The American public doesn't care about Vietnam, but a conflict with a friendly state will be talked about much more.

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Postby Alba and Cymru » Sun May 17, 2020 7:38 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Alba and Cymru wrote:
The UK would always side with India over China in any set of circumstances. The current administration of the United States would also back India even if they are the aggressor. All China really relies on is Russia, and even then, Russia may not side with China in an unfavorable situation.


Give an example of Britain and the United States taking action, not verbally.


They would lend a ton of weapons, vehicles, intelligence, and manpower to India, just like any other proxy war.
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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 17, 2020 7:38 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Give an example of Britain and the United States taking action, not verbally.


World Wars I and II.


Korean War, Vietnam War, Operation Desert Shield/Storm, etc.
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Postby Nap the Magnificent » Sun May 17, 2020 7:39 pm

It's worth noting that India has far more combat experience than the PRC does at this point, especially in mountainous terrain, and has won the vast majority of the conflicts it has been involved in since independence.
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Postby Alba and Cymru » Sun May 17, 2020 7:41 pm

Tiananmen Square Massacre - June 4, 1989
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Postby Albrenia » Sun May 17, 2020 7:41 pm

Nap the Magnificent wrote:It's worth noting that India has far more combat experience than the PRC does at this point, especially in mountainous terrain, and has won the vast majority of the conflicts it has been involved in since independence.


China has an enormous amount of resources nowadays though. Granted they've a history of less-than-competent warfare, but their sheer weight of power is daunting.

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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 17, 2020 7:41 pm

Nap the Magnificent wrote:It's worth noting that India has far more combat experience than the PRC does at this point, especially in mountainous terrain, and has won the vast majority of the conflicts it has been involved in since independence.


They had their asses to handed to them in the recent conflict with Pakistan.
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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 17, 2020 7:42 pm

Alba and Cymru wrote:
Tiananmen Square Massacre - June 4, 1989


China's most recent "combat" experience :p
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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Sun May 17, 2020 7:42 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Give an example of Britain and the United States taking action, not verbally.


World Wars I and II.


Do you remember why the US participated in World War II?Japanese attack

And WW1?Germany attacked the British and American routes and planned to attack the US with Mexico.

So what time did the US not join the fight when it was attacked?

As for britain, they are the most unreliable teammates in the world.
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Postby Alba and Cymru » Sun May 17, 2020 7:43 pm

Green October Z wrote:
Nap the Magnificent wrote:It's worth noting that India has far more combat experience than the PRC does at this point, especially in mountainous terrain, and has won the vast majority of the conflicts it has been involved in since independence.


They had their asses to handed to them in the recent conflict with Pakistan.


Excuse my ignorance, but have India and Pakistan had a war since 1971?
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Postby Heloin » Sun May 17, 2020 7:43 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Alba and Cymru wrote:
The UK would always side with India over China in any set of circumstances. The current administration of the United States would also back India even if they are the aggressor. All China really relies on is Russia, and even then, Russia may not side with China in an unfavorable situation.


Give an example of Britain and the United States taking action, not verbally.

Vietnam.

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Postby Nap the Magnificent » Sun May 17, 2020 7:43 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
World Wars I and II.


Do you remember why the US participated in World War II?Japanese attack

And WW1?Germany attacked the British and American routes and planned to attack the US with Mexico.

So what time did the US not join the fight when it was attacked?

As for britain, they are the most unreliable teammates in the world.

Britain joined WWI after Belgium was invaded and WWII after Poland was invaded. Further, there is much more cultural connection to India than to China not to mention the large Indian population within Britain.
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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Sun May 17, 2020 7:43 pm

Green October Z wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
World Wars I and II.


Korean War, Vietnam War, Operation Desert Shield/Storm, etc.


Oh, I forgot.They will also bully small countries
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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 17, 2020 7:44 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Green October Z wrote:
Korean War, Vietnam War, Operation Desert Shield/Storm, etc.


Oh, I forgot.They will also bully small countries


Bully?
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Postby Free Northwest Sovereign » Sun May 17, 2020 7:44 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
World Wars I and II.


Do you remember why the US participated in World War II?Japanese attack

And WW1?Germany attacked the British and American routes and planned to attack the US with Mexico.

So what time did the US not join the fight when it was attacked?

As for britain, they are the most unreliable teammates in the world.

Most wars that the US fights in don't require provocation.

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