India vs. China - Who Would Win in a War?

[Alba and Cymru]

Well now Europe is not, and someone is now.

No, still.If you search Africa's debt structure, or read the history of Africa in recent decades.
Africa is owned by multinationals.

Correct. Multinationals based in 3 or 4 countries. And one of those countries just happens to be...

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

Nuclear war is a lose lose proposal. Neither wins tactically or strategically.

If you want to discuss this in a magical situation without nukes than we are discussing a schoolyard scenario. China loses.

[Imperial isa]

Was there a fistfight between them not so long ago where India won?

[Nap the Magnificent]

Why would Russia bother joining China in a war against India? Indo-Russian relations are quite strong, stronger than Chinese-Russian relations I'd argue.

I only added that as a possibility given how chummy the Russians, chinese and n. koreans are if to oppose US and Western influence or plans. Not because it's in their best interests, just realpolitik.

If they aren't doing what's in their best interests then they aren't practicing realpolitik.

[Infected Mushroom]

And what Europe has been doing in Africa for hundreds of years.
No,in all of the world.

Imperialism good because other people did imperialism is a really funny take.

It’s not imperialism

It’s just trade

[Shanghai industrial complex]

Yep,If the German Empire dares to invade Poland, the British and French allied forces will attack the Ruhr Valley.
phoney war，or Sitzkrieg，Remember？

There are many reasons as to why there was no major offensive, primarily French fears of having to be on the offensive and preferring to draw the Germans into attacking them. The war at sea however was quite real and both Britain and France quickly stockpiled weapons and equipment for when they expected war to commence in full.

Yeah, 8 months of preparation.
There are three gaps in the Himalayas, from which to attack India does not need to cross the snow mountain

[Neanderthaland]

Imperialism good because other people did imperialism is a really funny take.

It’s not imperialism

It’s just trade

Said the British in the Opium Wars.

[Infected Mushroom]

I believe that Russia would also help China. Putin and Xi have always gotten along well, and they are two of the world’s greatest leaders.

[Nap the Magnificent]

There are many reasons as to why there was no major offensive, primarily French fears of having to be on the offensive and preferring to draw the Germans into attacking them. The war at sea however was quite real and both Britain and France quickly stockpiled weapons and equipment for when they expected war to commence in full.

Yeah, 8 months of preparation.
There are three gaps in the Himalayas, from which to attack India does not need to cross the snow mountain

Because the Germans themselves had to prepare for their own military action. Hitler wanted to invade in mid-October but his generals pointed out that would be suicide because they weren't ready.

Wow, you looked at Google Maps! I'm very proud of you. Please tell if you think moving into gaps flanked by mountains and hills is a good idea if you haven't secured said mountains and hills.

[Neanderthaland]

I believe that Russia would also help China. Putin and Xi have always gotten along well, and they are two of the world’s greatest leaders.

Yeah, but what you believe has never exactly been accurate, has it?

[Heloin]

Imperialism good because other people did imperialism is a really funny take.

It’s not imperialism

It’s just trade

The British South Africa Company said the same lie.

[Infected Mushroom]

It’s not imperialism

It’s just trade

The British South Africa Company said the same lie.

The British brought an army

[Nuloerkun]

I believe that Russia would also help China. Putin and Xi have always gotten along well, and they are two of the world’s greatest leaders.

"Greatest"? No, they are on par with *oof*ing Hitler! China would probably be winning at first, but then the whole world, noticing that Xi Jinping is committing the equivalent of the Holocaust in one year, will intervene, and the final result will be a decisive defeat for China, with Tibet and Xinjiang being split off, and a more democratic system being put in place. Confucianism would remain an official religion, and socialism will still be part of the government. As insult to injury, North Korea might nuke Beijing... and promptly be devastated by Taiwan, Japan and South Korea.

However, China only claims its own territory, Korea, north Vietnam, Taiwan, and outlying islands, and would not choose to invade India.

[Heloin]

The British South Africa Company said the same lie.

The British brought an army

China builds Islands in other people's territorial waters and puts military bases on them. You're point? China is an Imperialist power whether you want to admit it or not.

[Atheris]

The Chinese forces would prevail. Decisively so.

The aftermath of the Sino-Indian war says otherwise.

They have more soldiers, better technology, a bigger economy, and fiercely loyal soldiers and citizens.

India has the Commonwealth, international relations, the United States, and fiercely loyal soldiers and citizens.

However, India would have to attack first (making India the aggressor) because China is a peaceful country that only wants trade and create win wins. It’s not interested in imposing its ideology on non-Chinese territory and it’s not a colonial/imperial power.

Have you not heard of Sinicization (which is still going on in Ughyuristan, Tibet, Manchuria, and Inner Mongolia) or the invasion of Tibet?

China's not just imperialist. China is an empire.

[Stellar Colonies]

The British South Africa Company said the same lie.

The British brought an army

So would China if they were the leading global power.

They aren't, so they don't.

[Shanghai industrial complex]

Yeah, 8 months of preparation.
There are three gaps in the Himalayas, from which to attack India does not need to cross the snow mountain

Because the Germans themselves had to prepare for their own military action. Hitler wanted to invade in mid-October but his generals pointed out that would be suicide because they weren't ready.

Wow, you looked at Google Maps! I'm very proud of you. Please tell if you think moving into gaps flanked by mountains and hills is a good idea if you haven't secured said mountains and hills.

Britain and France say they want to punish Hitler, and then wait quietly to know the Nazi attack.Waving a small fist to punish the strong man opposite？No, in fact, both Britain and France were stronger than Germany at that time.

I say it's a gap. Actually, each part is hundreds of kilometers long.It is the three places where China and India have territorial disputes. That's why there's a dispute

[Green October Z]

Imperialism good because other people did imperialism is a really funny take.

It’s not imperialism

It’s just trade

[Infected Mushroom]

It’s not imperialism

It’s just trade

The accusations of neocolonialism aren’t well founded:

Commentators have stated that Western perceptions of China's motives are misconstrued due to Western conceptions of development as seen through their own lens of exploitation of others for resources—as exemplified by European colonialism—instead of through Chinese conceptions of development.[40]

The trade us about creating win wins. China helps Africa develop and compete with the west, while itself making money and taking a stand against imperialism. This is the objective version:

The People's Republic of China has built increasingly strong ties with some African, Asian, European and Latin American nations,[27][28] becoming Africa's largest trading partner in 2009.[29][30] As of August 2007, an estimated 750,000 Chinese nationals were working or living for extended periods in Africa.[31][32] In the 1980s and 90s, China continued to purchase natural resources — petroleum and minerals — from Africa to fuel the Chinese economy and to finance international business enterprises.[33][34] In 2006, trade had increased to $50 billion expanding to $500 billion by 2016.[35]

[Green October Z]

The accusations of neocolonialism aren’t well founded:

Commentators have stated that Western perceptions of China's motives are misconstrued due to Western conceptions of development as seen through their own lens of exploitation of others for resources—as exemplified by European colonialism—instead of through Chinese conceptions of development.[40]

The trade us about creating win wins. China helps Africa develop and compete with the west, while itself making money and taking a stand against imperialism. This is the objective version:

The People's Republic of China has built increasingly strong ties with some African, Asian, European and Latin American nations,[27][28] becoming Africa's largest trading partner in 2009.[29][30] As of August 2007, an estimated 750,000 Chinese nationals were working or living for extended periods in Africa.[31][32] In the 1980s and 90s, China continued to purchase natural resources — petroleum and minerals — from Africa to fuel the Chinese economy and to finance international business enterprises.[33][34] In 2006, trade had increased to $50 billion expanding to $500 billion by 2016.[35]

[Baja California Autonoma]

The accusations of neocolonialism aren’t well founded:

Commentators have stated that Western perceptions of China's motives are misconstrued due to Western conceptions of development as seen through their own lens of exploitation of others for resources—as exemplified by European colonialism—instead of through Chinese conceptions of development.[40]

The trade us about creating win wins. China helps Africa develop and compete with the west, while itself making money and taking a stand against imperialism. This is the objective version:

The People's Republic of China has built increasingly strong ties with some African, Asian, European and Latin American nations,[27][28] becoming Africa's largest trading partner in 2009.[29][30] As of August 2007, an estimated 750,000 Chinese nationals were working or living for extended periods in Africa.[31][32] In the 1980s and 90s, China continued to purchase natural resources — petroleum and minerals — from Africa to fuel the Chinese economy and to finance international business enterprises.[33][34] In 2006, trade had increased to $50 billion expanding to $500 billion by 2016.[35]

Did you seriously wiki-paste that?

[Green October Z]

The accusations of neocolonialism aren’t well founded:



The trade us about creating win wins. China helps Africa develop and compete with the west, while itself making money and taking a stand against imperialism. This is the objective version:

Did you seriously wiki-paste that?

He did

[Heloin]

The accusations of neocolonialism aren’t well founded:

Commentators have stated that Western perceptions of China's motives are misconstrued due to Western conceptions of development as seen through their own lens of exploitation of others for resources—as exemplified by European colonialism—instead of through Chinese conceptions of development.[40]

The trade us about creating win wins. China helps Africa develop and compete with the west, while itself making money and taking a stand against imperialism. This is the objective version:

The People's Republic of China has built increasingly strong ties with some African, Asian, European and Latin American nations,[27][28] becoming Africa's largest trading partner in 2009.[29][30] As of August 2007, an estimated 750,000 Chinese nationals were working or living for extended periods in Africa.[31][32] In the 1980s and 90s, China continued to purchase natural resources — petroleum and minerals — from Africa to fuel the Chinese economy and to finance international business enterprises.[33][34] In 2006, trade had increased to $50 billion expanding to $500 billion by 2016.[35]

The lens of an African who is in regular contact with people directly affected by Chinese Imperialism are invalid but the bullshit claims of a Canadian expat bringing unsourced quotes proves that Chinese Imperialism isn't real?

[Baja California Autonoma]

You must admit defeat now in face of such flawless credible logic from wikipedia.

[Infected Mushroom]

You must admit defeat now in face of such flawless credible logic from wikipedia.

It makes sense though.

A western government could easily look at trade between a middle income country and a developing country and go... “well that must be imperialism, same as we did”

It ignores the cultural context (imperialism is not the Chinese way) and the economic realities of the business