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What would the result be?

Chinese Victory, Indian Defeat
41
39%
Indian Victory, Chinese Defeat
13
12%
Chinese Tactical Victory, Strategic Defeat
25
24%
Indian Tactical Victory, Strategic Defeat
6
6%
Don't Know/Inconclusive
20
19%
 
Total votes : 105

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Infected Mushroom
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun May 17, 2020 7:13 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:India has to climb the Himalayas to attack China. But China can strike from a high point down.And to be honest, India's army is too weak. In the first Sino Indian War, China estimated that the level of Indian army was similar to that of South Korea or Turkey.Emmmmm.....It's a good thing not to underestimate the strength of the enemy.
To be honest, I can't see the reason for the war between China and India.But I would like to add that" Britain will always have a bright future"


This is correct.

Also, Pakistan could create an effective second front.

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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 17, 2020 7:13 pm

Heloin wrote:
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:India has to climb the Himalayas to attack China. But China can strike from a high point down

Image


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Postby Alba and Cymru » Sun May 17, 2020 7:13 pm

Green October Z wrote:
Eckie-Cola wrote:
Both would be fucked, it doesn’t matter if one gets more fucked in a nuclear exchange than the other.


Yes, both would get fucked pretty bad. But India would get fucked the hardest and would take much longer to get back up and walk away from it :p


Neither would be able walk away.
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Postby Heloin » Sun May 17, 2020 7:15 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:India has to climb the Himalayas to attack China. But China can strike from a high point down.And to be honest, India's army is too weak. In the first Sino Indian War, China estimated that the level of Indian army was similar to that of South Korea or Turkey.Emmmmm.....It's a good thing not to underestimate the strength of the enemy.
To be honest, I can't see the reason for the war between China and India.But I would like to add that" Britain will always have a bright future"


This is correct.

Also, Pakistan could create an effective second front.

Then everyone there dies. The end.

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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Sun May 17, 2020 7:15 pm

Green October Z wrote:
Heloin wrote:Image


India: You under-estimate my power!


China:Don't try
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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 17, 2020 7:15 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:India has to climb the Himalayas to attack China. But China can strike from a high point down.And to be honest, India's army is too weak. In the first Sino Indian War, China estimated that the level of Indian army was similar to that of South Korea or Turkey.Emmmmm.....It's a good thing not to underestimate the strength of the enemy.
To be honest, I can't see the reason for the war between China and India.But I would like to add that" Britain will always have a bright future"


This is correct.

Also, Pakistan could create an effective second front.


India would get fucked on both sides :rofl:
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Postby Eckie-Cola » Sun May 17, 2020 7:15 pm

The best India has against China is their navy. Cut off China’s seagoing trade India just has to sit and wait as China’s economy tanks hard.

The war at sea would be the decisive front in a conflict between the two countries. Sitting astride the Indian Ocean, India lies on China’s jugular vein. The Indian Navy, with its force of submarines, aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya and surface ships could easily curtail the the flow of trade between China and Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. It would take the Chinese Navy weeks to assemble and sail a fleet capable of contesting the blockade. Even then, the blockade would be hard to break up, conducted over the thousands of square miles of the Indian Ocean.

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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 17, 2020 7:16 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Green October Z wrote:
India: You under-estimate my power!


China:Don't try


India: *Attacks
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Postby Albrenia » Sun May 17, 2020 7:17 pm

Assuming the rest of the world did nothing, that the Himalayas were crossed and neither side used nukes, I think China would win.

That's a lot of assumptions though...

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun May 17, 2020 7:17 pm

Eckie-Cola wrote:The best India has against China is their navy. Cut off China’s seagoing trade India just has to sit and wait as China’s economy tanks hard.

The war at sea would be the decisive front in a conflict between the two countries. Sitting astride the Indian Ocean, India lies on China’s jugular vein. The Indian Navy, with its force of submarines, aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya and surface ships could easily curtail the the flow of trade between China and Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. It would take the Chinese Navy weeks to assemble and sail a fleet capable of contesting the blockade. Even then, the blockade would be hard to break up, conducted over the thousands of square miles of the Indian Ocean.

From yahoo


Does India have a stronger navy though?

Even if it does, a blockade would cause trade disruptions, and given the importance of Chinese trade, generate pro-Chinese sympathies

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Postby Heloin » Sun May 17, 2020 7:17 pm

Green October Z wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
This is correct.

Also, Pakistan could create an effective second front.


India would get fucked on both sides :rofl:

No, they'd all die.

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Postby Alba and Cymru » Sun May 17, 2020 7:19 pm

Crossing the Himalayas would be suicide by either army. This would most likely be a naval war or a whole lot of air raids, if not an invasion of Indochina.
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Postby Green October Z » Sun May 17, 2020 7:19 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Eckie-Cola wrote:The best India has against China is their navy. Cut off China’s seagoing trade India just has to sit and wait as China’s economy tanks hard.


From yahoo


Does India have a stronger navy though?

Even if it does, a blockade would cause trade disruptions, and given the importance of Chinese trade, generate pro-Chinese sympathies


.........How?
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Postby Heloin » Sun May 17, 2020 7:21 pm

Albrenia wrote:Assuming the rest of the world did nothing, that the Himalayas were crossed and neither side used nukes, I think China would win.

That's a lot of assumptions though...

Seeing as a conventional war is near impossible best to bet on the wild dog. All in on Bhutan, all hail to the Thunder Dragon Empire.

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Postby Heloin » Sun May 17, 2020 7:21 pm

Green October Z wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Does India have a stronger navy though?

Even if it does, a blockade would cause trade disruptions, and given the importance of Chinese trade, generate pro-Chinese sympathies


.........How?

Magic probably.

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Postby Neanderthaland » Sun May 17, 2020 7:22 pm

Green October Z wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Does India have a stronger navy though?

Even if it does, a blockade would cause trade disruptions, and given the importance of Chinese trade, generate pro-Chinese sympathies


.........How?

In any case, it would be offset by the incredible Bollywood propaganda song-and-dance numbers.
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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Sun May 17, 2020 7:23 pm

Eckie-Cola wrote:The best India has against China is their navy. Cut off China’s seagoing trade India just has to sit and wait as China’s economy tanks hard.

The war at sea would be the decisive front in a conflict between the two countries. Sitting astride the Indian Ocean, India lies on China’s jugular vein. The Indian Navy, with its force of submarines, aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya and surface ships could easily curtail the the flow of trade between China and Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. It would take the Chinese Navy weeks to assemble and sail a fleet capable of contesting the blockade. Even then, the blockade would be hard to break up, conducted over the thousands of square miles of the Indian Ocean.

From yahoo

Meanwhile, New Delhi is only 323km away from China.The two borders on land, and China's navy is significantly stronger.What role does the French fleet play in Germany's attack on France in WW2?It's just being sunk by the British.
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Postby Eckie-Cola » Sun May 17, 2020 7:24 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Eckie-Cola wrote:The best India has against China is their navy. Cut off China’s seagoing trade India just has to sit and wait as China’s economy tanks hard.


From yahoo


Does India have a stronger navy though?

Even if it does, a blockade would cause trade disruptions, and given the importance of Chinese trade, generate pro-Chinese sympathies


India’s navy is strong enough to give China a lot of problems. You have to realize that in this theoretical conflict, India would likely have the support of the USA and it’s allies.

China has more enemies than allies, most nations would jump at the chance to screw China over if it was stupid enough to involve itself in a war with India.
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Postby Alba and Cymru » Sun May 17, 2020 7:25 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Eckie-Cola wrote:The best India has against China is their navy. Cut off China’s seagoing trade India just has to sit and wait as China’s economy tanks hard.


From yahoo

Meanwhile, New Delhi is only 323km away from China.The two borders on land, and China's navy is significantly stronger.What role does the French fleet play in Germany's attack on France in WW2?It's just being sunk by the British.


Land borders mean virtually nothing in this context. Nobody wants to send their armies across the deadliest mountains in the world when there are other means to fight.

Edit: replace "armies" with "infantry and vehicles".
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun May 17, 2020 7:28 pm

Eckie-Cola wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Does India have a stronger navy though?

Even if it does, a blockade would cause trade disruptions, and given the importance of Chinese trade, generate pro-Chinese sympathies


India’s navy is strong enough to give China a lot of problems. You have to realize that in this theoretical conflict, India would likely have the support of the USA and it’s allies.

China has more enemies than allies, most nations would jump at the chance to screw China over if it was stupid enough to involve itself in a war with India.


The war wouldn’t happen unless India attacked though

In which case the trade interests and public sympathy would be with China

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Postby Eckie-Cola » Sun May 17, 2020 7:29 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Eckie-Cola wrote:The best India has against China is their navy. Cut off China’s seagoing trade India just has to sit and wait as China’s economy tanks hard.


From yahoo

Meanwhile, New Delhi is only 323km away from China.The two borders on land, and China's navy is significantly stronger.What role does the French fleet play in Germany's attack on France in WW2?It's just being sunk by the British.
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Eckie-Cola wrote:The best India has against China is their navy. Cut off China’s seagoing trade India just has to sit and wait as China’s economy tanks hard.


From yahoo


Does India have a stronger navy though?

Even if it does, a blockade would cause trade disruptions, and given the importance of Chinese trade, generate pro-Chinese sympathies


To continue this debate I must ask the both of you, since y’all obviously have Chinese sympathies.

What’s you opinion of the Chinese Military? What do you believe it’s capable of?
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Postby Baja California Autonoma » Sun May 17, 2020 7:29 pm

Eckie-Cola wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Does India have a stronger navy though?

Even if it does, a blockade would cause trade disruptions, and given the importance of Chinese trade, generate pro-Chinese sympathies


India’s navy is strong enough to give China a lot of problems. You have to realize that in this theoretical conflict, India would likely have the support of the USA and it’s allies.

China has more enemies than allies, most nations would jump at the chance to screw China over if it was stupid enough to involve itself in a war with India.


Thank you for combatting fallacy of an invincible China. People are making a superficial assessment because they don't see how China depends on the outside world, for markets and raw materials. Most wars are not flashbang wars and there is some attrition and like you said, india has advantage there.

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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Sun May 17, 2020 7:30 pm

Alba and Cymru wrote:Crossing the Himalayas would be suicide by either army. This would most likely be a naval war or a whole lot of air raids, if not an invasion of Indochina.

You can get to the Himalayas by train from China.There are also highways.Permafrost and snow mountain are not problems.Direct to China India border
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Postby Albrenia » Sun May 17, 2020 7:31 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Eckie-Cola wrote:
India’s navy is strong enough to give China a lot of problems. You have to realize that in this theoretical conflict, India would likely have the support of the USA and it’s allies.

China has more enemies than allies, most nations would jump at the chance to screw China over if it was stupid enough to involve itself in a war with India.


The war wouldn’t happen unless India attacked though

In which case the trade interests and public sympathy would be with China


China aren't the paragons you proclaim them to be. They'll take what they think they can from whomever they think they can take it from.

Thankfully that means a war with India is unlikely at the moment.

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Postby Alba and Cymru » Sun May 17, 2020 7:31 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Eckie-Cola wrote:
India’s navy is strong enough to give China a lot of problems. You have to realize that in this theoretical conflict, India would likely have the support of the USA and it’s allies.

China has more enemies than allies, most nations would jump at the chance to screw China over if it was stupid enough to involve itself in a war with India.


The war wouldn’t happen unless India attacked though

In which case the trade interests and public sympathy would be with China


The UK would always side with India over China in any set of circumstances. The current administration of the United States would also back India even if they are the aggressor. All China really relies on is Russia, and even then, Russia may not side with China in an unfavorable situation.
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