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Does extraterrestrial life exist?

Yes, and most life sustaining worlds will host intelligent life
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Yes, but it will most likely be as the OP said
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No
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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Mon May 18, 2020 9:13 pm

Bombadil wrote:
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Heavy metal elements come from supernovae. There are not many of these minerals on earth. On the contrary, they are more abundant elsewhere in the solar system.Even liquid water has more reserves on the moons of Jupiter and Saturn.


What we do have is a very stable environment compared to most planets.

The premise is that aliens are also Aerobic organisms
In fact, there are many such planets in the solar system.
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Postby Bombadil » Mon May 18, 2020 9:16 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
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What we do have is a very stable environment compared to most planets.

The premise is that aliens are also Aerobic organisms
In fact, there are many such planets in the solar system.


Not really, the stability alone is a benefit. I don't know if there's a lot of planets with a stable atmosphere without sulphuric acid storms or similar ravaging the landscape.

May not be urgent for them, hence I said more likely they incapacitate us and note the planet as a potential future location of interest.
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Postby Grimmsland » Mon May 18, 2020 9:17 pm

If they were coming here for something of use to them in research or whatever it would most likely be biological.. could be something in the deep seas or even human genes.

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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Mon May 18, 2020 9:23 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:The premise is that aliens are also Aerobic organisms
In fact, there are many such planets in the solar system.


Not really, the stability alone is a benefit. I don't know if there's a lot of planets with a stable atmosphere without sulphuric acid storms or similar ravaging the landscape.

May not be urgent for them, hence I said more likely they incapacitate us and note the planet as a potential future location of interest.


Yep,without doubt.Everyone's worried about a group of militant hairless monkeys.
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Postby Bombadil » Mon May 18, 2020 9:29 pm

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Not really, the stability alone is a benefit. I don't know if there's a lot of planets with a stable atmosphere without sulphuric acid storms or similar ravaging the landscape.

May not be urgent for them, hence I said more likely they incapacitate us and note the planet as a potential future location of interest.


Yep,without doubt.Everyone's worried about a group of militant hairless monkeys.


Indeed, so there's three things we can do:

1. Hope radio signals have decayed and stop all transmissions into space
2. Invest in a means of universal amplification signal as a form of MAD, there's always a bigger fish and the final option given aliens arrive is to ensure everyone knows leading to our mutual destruction if we press the button
3. Hope David Bowie in his cosmic Tesla succeeds in his mission of making all alien life realise we're the cosmic centre of cool and to destroy us will unbalance the entire universe
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Postby Ifreann » Tue May 19, 2020 5:33 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:I think it's likely ETs exist, but I think they would avoid Earth because of the stupidity of it's inhabitants.

As I said to Jedi Council, what you mean when you say this is that you think we're stupid. Which I'm sure makes you feel good, somehow, but could you maybe not insult us to get your kicks?
I doubt they've visited us. If we ever meet ETs, there will likely be war. If they find Earth first, they'll have the better tech and probably wipe us out. If we find them first and have the better tech, we'll probably try to colonize them. Peace is unlikely, considering humanity's past reactions to meeting others.

Why would we colonise them? Colonialism didn't happen just because, like some kind of natural disaster.


Rojava Free State wrote:
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Given that there are no special resources on earth, I think it's almost impossible for them to come and be miners.
OR Set up a secret research station And
Active observation Sociology +8
(We can see UFOs when researchers get drunk and drive around)


How do you know what is and isn't special to them though? Maybe they need uranium for some reason and only could find an ample supply here.

Or maybe they settled here because their home world is a little too crowded, but they just decided they'll deal with us when they run out of room in their seclusion zone.

Any resources, like uranium, that could be found on Earth could probably be more easily found somewhere else in space. Some nice low gravity asteroids, or a planet that doesn't have bothersome inhabitants flinging nuclear weapons at your mining ships.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue May 19, 2020 5:41 am

Ifreann wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:I think it's likely ETs exist, but I think they would avoid Earth because of the stupidity of it's inhabitants.

As I said to Jedi Council, what you mean when you say this is that you think we're stupid. Which I'm sure makes you feel good, somehow, but could you maybe not insult us to get your kicks?
I doubt they've visited us. If we ever meet ETs, there will likely be war. If they find Earth first, they'll have the better tech and probably wipe us out. If we find them first and have the better tech, we'll probably try to colonize them. Peace is unlikely, considering humanity's past reactions to meeting others.

Why would we colonise them? Colonialism didn't happen just because, like some kind of natural disaster.


Rojava Free State wrote:
How do you know what is and isn't special to them though? Maybe they need uranium for some reason and only could find an ample supply here.

Or maybe they settled here because their home world is a little too crowded, but they just decided they'll deal with us when they run out of room in their seclusion zone.

Any resources, like uranium, that could be found on Earth could probably be more easily found somewhere else in space. Some nice low gravity asteroids, or a planet that doesn't have bothersome inhabitants flinging nuclear weapons at your mining ships.

It's like mice in a cupboard, you dont know to kill them until they shit in your food, then you call the exterminator.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue May 19, 2020 5:57 am

This thread reminds me of an old thread where this same subject was discussed, and the following post from it:

Unidox wrote:can I have sex with it?

Which covers how the human race would likely react to extraterrestrial life.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue May 19, 2020 6:03 am

The New California Republic wrote:This thread reminds me of an old thread where this same subject was discussed, and the following post from it:

Unidox wrote:can I have sex with it?

Which covers how the human race would likely react to extraterrestrial life.

Either eat, or fuck, yes.

And was the question answered?
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Postby Diopolis » Tue May 19, 2020 6:09 am

Bombadil wrote:
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Yep,without doubt.Everyone's worried about a group of militant hairless monkeys.


Indeed, so there's three things we can do:

1. Hope radio signals have decayed and stop all transmissions into space
2. Invest in a means of universal amplification signal as a form of MAD, there's always a bigger fish and the final option given aliens arrive is to ensure everyone knows leading to our mutual destruction if we press the button
3. Hope David Bowie in his cosmic Tesla succeeds in his mission of making all alien life realise we're the cosmic centre of cool and to destroy us will unbalance the entire universe

Option 4. Disperse civilization off earth, make sure they see you do it, doubles as MAD. That assumes, however, that there's no MAD dog.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue May 19, 2020 6:11 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:This thread reminds me of an old thread where this same subject was discussed, and the following post from it:


Which covers how the human race would likely react to extraterrestrial life.

Either eat, or fuck, yes.

And was the question answered?

I mean, I think the question would only be answered if and when we encounter them.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue May 19, 2020 6:33 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Either eat, or fuck, yes.

And was the question answered?

I mean, I think the question would only be answered if and when we encounter them.

This is nationstates, I demand a wrong answer now! :p
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--S. Huntington

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--H. Kissenger

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Postby The New California Republic » Tue May 19, 2020 6:36 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I mean, I think the question would only be answered if and when we encounter them.

This is nationstates, I demand a wrong answer now! :p

I can only tell you this much: it's a safe bet that we will certainly try.
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White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue May 19, 2020 6:49 am

Diopolis wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Indeed, so there's three things we can do:

1. Hope radio signals have decayed and stop all transmissions into space
2. Invest in a means of universal amplification signal as a form of MAD, there's always a bigger fish and the final option given aliens arrive is to ensure everyone knows leading to our mutual destruction if we press the button
3. Hope David Bowie in his cosmic Tesla succeeds in his mission of making all alien life realise we're the cosmic centre of cool and to destroy us will unbalance the entire universe

Option 4. Disperse civilization off earth, make sure they see you do it, doubles as MAD. That assumes, however, that there's no MAD dog.


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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue May 19, 2020 6:56 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:This is nationstates, I demand a wrong answer now! :p

I can only tell you this much: it's a safe bet that we will certainly try.

You are probably right.
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--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

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Postby Meremos Alloriumenion » Sat May 23, 2020 3:31 am

The universe is far larger than anything we can ever hope to comprehend. I am confident we are not the only planet with life.

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Postby Alorgaze » Sat May 23, 2020 3:44 am

How many of these wildcard threads have you created?

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat May 23, 2020 4:31 am

Alorgaze wrote:How many of these wildcard threads have you created?


Man's been here maybe a month and he's already a major author of threads.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 23, 2020 5:43 am

Alorgaze wrote:How many of these wildcard threads have you created?

Fourteen.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat May 23, 2020 5:45 am

Ifreann wrote:
Alorgaze wrote:How many of these wildcard threads have you created?

Fourteen.

Yeah it's getting a bit shitty tbh.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat May 23, 2020 7:10 am

Grimmsland wrote:If they were coming here for something of use to them in research or whatever it would most likely be biological.. could be something in the deep seas or even human genes.


Idk why they would need to kidnap people then tbh. If they want human genes, they could just break into my job late at night and swab the freezer door handle.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat May 23, 2020 7:11 am

The New California Republic wrote:

Yeah it's getting a bit shitty tbh.


What's wrong with his thread? Imo it's fine.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby The New California Republic » Sat May 23, 2020 7:19 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Yeah it's getting a bit shitty tbh.


What's wrong with his thread? Imo it's fine.

I was more meaning the very act of creating lots of new threads in a short time.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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