Hungary Experiencing "A Stunning Democratic Breakdown"

by **La Paz de Los Ricos** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:40 pm

Agarntrop wrote:Well boys we did it, human rights are no more!

Just heil and wave, boys. Heil and wave

by **Diahon** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:42 pm

Nap the Magnificent wrote:I mean, in of themselves hybrid regimes or non-democratic regimes are not necessarily bad but Orban is a piece of shit tbh.

Authoritarian regimes are almost universally bad, and even more dependent on their leaders being good decent people than is usually the case with democracies.

by **Hunzali** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:42 pm

The Eastern Cherokee Nation wrote:I just hope people bought guns with there stimulus

How does this relate..at all?

by **Nap the Magnificent** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:44 pm

Diahon wrote:
Nap the Magnificent wrote:I mean, in of themselves hybrid regimes or non-democratic regimes are not necessarily bad but Orban is a piece of shit tbh.

Authoritarian regimes are almost universally bad

Nope.

by **Nuloerkun** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:44 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Saruvian Empire wrote:A breakdown of democracy in the twenties? Hey wait, I've seen this one!

If this is the roaring 20s, doesn't that mean an Asian God Emperor, a particularly angry and loud German and a spaghetti Boy are about to start a war in 20 years or less?

"Asian God Emperor" = Xi Jinping? Also, he and his top officials are committing the equivalent of the Holocaust every year, for a total death count around 50 million so far. I think he is a lot like Hitler, and would be the primary player.

WW3 is bygone (1960s-1993), so this would be WW4.

by **Diahon** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:45 pm

Nap the Magnificent wrote:
Diahon wrote:
Authoritarian regimes are almost universally bad

Nope.

Yep.

by **Nap the Magnificent** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:49 pm

I will however laugh if Orban gives up his emergency decrees once this all blows over.

by **Atheris** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:51 pm

Diahon wrote:
Nap the Magnificent wrote:Nope.

Yep.

The SFR Yugoslavia? Afghanistan under Mohammad Zahir Shah? China under Deng Xiaoping? The USSR under Mikhail Gorbachev?

by **Gormwood** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:51 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Saruvian Empire wrote:A breakdown of democracy in the twenties? Hey wait, I've seen this one!

If this is the roaring 20s, doesn't that mean an Asian God Emperor, a particularly angry and loud German and a spaghetti Boy are about to start a war in 20 years or less?

Savini becomes Prime Minister?

by **Kathol Rift** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:52 pm

Nap the Magnificent wrote:I will however laugh if Orban gives up his emergency decrees once this all blows over.

He won’t give up his power. I have just discovered a terrible truth. I think Orban is a Sith Lord.

by **Atheris** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:52 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
If this is the roaring 20s, doesn't that mean an Asian God Emperor, a particularly angry and loud German and a spaghetti Boy are about to start a war in 20 years or less?

Savini becomes Prime Minister?

Tom Savini? Prime Minister? America doesn't have a Prime Minister...

Kathol Rift wrote:
Nap the Magnificent wrote:I will however laugh if Orban gives up his emergency decrees once this all blows over.

He won’t give up his power. I have just discovered a terrible truth. I think Orban is a Sith Lord.

A Sith Lord?

by **Nap the Magnificent** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:54 pm

Atheris wrote:
Diahon wrote:
Yep.

The SFR Yugoslavia? Afghanistan under Mohammad Zahir Shah? China under Deng Xiaoping? The USSR under Mikhail Gorbachev?

France under Napoleon III, Rwanda under Paul Kagame.

by **Atheris** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:55 pm

Nap the Magnificent wrote:
Atheris wrote:The SFR Yugoslavia? Afghanistan under Mohammad Zahir Shah? China under Deng Xiaoping? The USSR under Mikhail Gorbachev?

France under Napoleon III, Rwanda under Paul Kagame.

Prussia under Otto von Bismarck, Turkey under Mustafa Kemal?

by **Diahon** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:56 pm

Atheris wrote:
Diahon wrote:
Yep.

The SFR Yugoslavia? Afghanistan under Mohammad Zahir Shah? China under Deng Xiaoping? The USSR under Mikhail Gorbachev?

"Almost". Also the second part of the quoted sentence.

Oh, and another qualifier -- "whatever good those good decent leaders did not only in no way excuses the excesses of their predecessors, it only makes their efforts all the easier to remove by any number of shitty successors -- and besides, once things go belly up, is there recourse to peaceful correction? no, almost always not".

by **Gormwood** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:57 pm

Atheris wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Savini becomes Prime Minister?

Tom Savini? Prime Minister? America doesn't have a Prime Minister...

Salvini.

by **Kathol Rift** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:57 pm

Atheris wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Savini becomes Prime Minister?

Tom Savini? Prime Minister? America doesn't have a Prime Minister...

Kathol Rift wrote:He won’t give up his power. I have just discovered a terrible truth. I think Orban is a Sith Lord.

A Sith Lord?

Yes, the one we’ve been looking for.

by **Atheris** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:58 pm

Kathol Rift wrote:
Atheris wrote:Tom Savini? Prime Minister? America doesn't have a Prime Minister...

A Sith Lord?

Yes, the one we’ve been looking for.

How do you know this?

by **Diahon** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:59 pm

Atheris wrote:
Nap the Magnificent wrote:France under Napoleon III, Rwanda under Paul Kagame.

Prussia under Otto von Bismarck, Turkey under Mustafa Kemal?

Early glory, later fuckup, due to inbuilt deficiencies these men of blood, iron, and not enough thirst for fucking power thought to be features.

by **Kathol Rift** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:59 pm

Atheris wrote:
Kathol Rift wrote:Yes, the one we’ve been looking for.

How do you know this?

he knows the ways of authoritarianism. He’s been trained to use emergency powers.

by **Atheris** » Sat May 16, 2020 5:00 pm

Kathol Rift wrote:
Atheris wrote:How do you know this?
he knows the ways of authoritarianism. He’s been trained to use emergency powers.

Are you sure?

by **Kathol Rift** » Sat May 16, 2020 5:00 pm

Atheris wrote:
Kathol Rift wrote:he knows the ways of authoritarianism. He’s been trained to use emergency powers.

Are you sure?

Absolutely.

by **Atheris** » Sat May 16, 2020 5:00 pm

Kathol Rift wrote:
Atheris wrote:Are you sure?

Absolutely.

Then our worst fears have been realized. We must move quickly if the European Union is to survive.

by **Nap the Magnificent** » Sat May 16, 2020 5:01 pm

Atheris wrote:
Nap the Magnificent wrote:France under Napoleon III, Rwanda under Paul Kagame.

Prussia under Otto von Bismarck, Turkey under Mustafa Kemal?

Epirus under Pyrrhus, Russia under Alexander II, England under Edward I, Ancient Egypt for much of its history, Emperor Wu of Han.

by **Diahon** » Sat May 16, 2020 5:02 pm

Atheris wrote:
Kathol Rift wrote:Absolutely.

Then our worst fears have been realized. We must move quickly if the European Union is to survive.

Storm Budapest, rid Magyayorságz of Orban, and thoroughly de-Fideszify the country?

That, I guess, is an option.

by **Kathol Rift** » Sat May 16, 2020 5:03 pm

Atheris wrote:
Kathol Rift wrote:Absolutely.

Then our worst fears have been realized. We must move quickly if the European Union is to survive.

He is very powerful. You’ll need my help if you’re going to depose him.

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